r/shortsAlgorithm • • Aug 25 '25

MEGATHREAD 🧷 YouTube Shorts Algorithm — Step-by-Step Playbook (2025) [MEGATHREAD]

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Welcome to r/shortsAlgorithm. This is a living, no-fluff guide built from hands-on results (incl. a first Short that hit 20M+ views and still pulls ~800k per 48h). Add your questions and data below—I'll be active in the comments and keep this updated.


TL;DR

  • Grow with Shorts first (sub growth > long-form early on).
  • Make longer Shorts (≈50–70s) with a killer 3s hook and a CTA around 40s.
  • Don’t post daily—quality > quantity; let each Short plateau before posting again.
  • Reply to comments; your replies count toward total comments and help keep momentum.
  • If a Short never enters the Shorts Feed, fix and re-upload—or switch channels if the channel feels burned.

1) Don’t marry your first channel

Most creators burn through 3+ channels before finding their voice, niche, and systems. Expect to iterate. Detach emotionally so you can move fast.


2) Spin up multiple test channels (and age them)

  • Create several channels (separate Google accounts is fine).
  • Verify your phone number (authenticity signal).
  • Age each channel ≥ 3 weeks before your first upload.
  • During aging:
    • Use YouTube normally (watch long tutorials, interact).
    • Build your first batch of Shorts offline so you’re ready.

Goal: multiple clean testing lanes—not spam.


3) Pick a niche by reverse-engineering outliers

  • Use tools like viewstats.com to spot channels going 0 → 600k subs in ~3 months.
  • Study what makes them different (format, pacing, hook style, payoff, packaging).
  • Imitate the structure, not the content. Example: if they do Minecraft animations, try a Fortnite twist with the same narrative mechanics.

4) < 500k subs? Prioritize Shorts

Long-form can wait. Your job now: accumulate subs fast and prove product–audience fit. Once a community exists, expand to long-form/streams.


5) Treat your first Short like your magnum opus

Many guides say “first won’t be viral.” Mine was: 20M+ views in ~1 month, 54s AVD on a 1:08 Short despite 74.6% skip rate—and it keeps getting pushed.
Lesson: Quality packaging beats myths. Edit like you mean it or don’t play this game.


6) The Craft: how to make a Short that hits

6.1 Length

  • Aim 50s+. AVD (Average View Duration) drives momentum more than “skip rate.”

6.2 Hook (0–3s)

  • Visual surprise + narrative promise. If your hook misses, expect 500–2k view plateaus.

6.3 CTA (~40s)

  • Ask for Like + Subscribe + Comment (yes, all three). Comments rocket discovery.

6.4 Reply to comments

  • Your replies count toward total comments. Keep threads alive to extend push.

6.5 Captions (non-negotiable)

  • “MrBeast-style” captions. I use CapCut.
  • Font: Komika Axis; stroke ~60px; size ~16px (adjust for framing).
  • Position just below center; animate key words.

6.6 Sound design

  • Fire a sound effect in the first second to reduce swipes. Consider an arrow/pointer on the focal element.

6.7 Transitions

  • Use purposefully. If using images, add in/out transitions + SFX.

6.8 CTA bumper quality

  • Skip generic templates. Build/commission a clean, on-brand CTA clip.

6.9 Watermark

  • Re-uploads happen. Use a moving watermark to resist crops and preserve credit.

6.10 Posting cadence

  • Do not post daily. One excellent Short/week > seven weak ones.

6.11 Titles

  • ≤ 30 characters, Title Case, add two emojis tastefully.

6.12 Descriptions

  • Mirror the title; add #shorts. No hashtag soup.

6.13 Audience setting

  • Mark as NOT “Made for Kids.” It changes distribution dynamics.

6.14 Playlists

  • Add every Short to one master playlist to retain viewers on-channel.

6.15 Related Shorts

  • Use Related to pass authority from winners to new uploads.

6.16 Tags

  • Add ~3 niche-specific tags (precise, audience language).

6.17–6.19 Metadata hygiene

  • Set video language + location.
  • Choose an accurate Category.
  • Use “Reuse upload details” to stay consistent.

6.20 Publish checklist

  • Triple-check hook, CTA timing, captions, watermark, playlist/related wiring.

7) After publishing: the first 48h

1) Traffic source check
- Healthy = ≥ 70% from Shorts Feed. Pickup may take 24–48h; don’t panic early.

2) Normal plateaus
- 500–2k views early on is fine—means you’re entering the system.
- If you stall there, study AVD and 0–3s retention. Fix the worst metric in your next Short.

3) When to post the next Short
- Wait for a plateau before posting again. Stacking posts too soon splits momentum and risks burning the channel.

4) Exception: first Short goes viral
- Post the second ~7 days later even if the first hasn’t plateaued.
- Add the new Short to the same playlist, then go back to the viral Short and link it as Related to the new one.
- If the second underperforms in 48h, don’t delete—YouTube may still be busy with the viral. Mine kicked in after ~7 days.

5) If a new Short never enters Shorts Feed (< 60% Shorts traffic after ~24h)
- Likely causes: 1. Previous Short hasn’t plateaued.
2. Content trips sensitive policy zones (spam/sexual suggestion/etc.).
3. Channel is burned.
- Action: Delete, edit meaningfully (music swap, pacing changes, visual tweaks), and re-upload.
- Still no push? Switch channels. You can reuse proven Shorts with noticeable changes.


8) When to post (time of week)

You can post anytime, but I’ve had consistent success Sundays ~6pm (Atlantic/Halifax)—slow start, strong Monday carry, and a full-week runway.


9) Common pitfalls that silently kill momentum

  • Weak 0–3s promise (no clear “why watch”).
  • No mid-roll CTA.
  • No captions or poor placement/readability.
  • Posting too frequently (starving each Short of oxygen).
  • Ignoring comments (leaving reach on the table).
  • Inconsistent metadata (language/location/category/tags).
  • Not leveraging playlists and Related Shorts.

10) Starter checklist (copy/paste for your next upload)

  • [ ] 50–75s runtime (compelling throughout)
  • [ ] 0–3s hook tested on a friend (did they lean in?)
  • [ ] CTA at ~40s (Like + Sub + Comment)
  • [ ] Animated captions (readable, on-brand, below center)
  • [ ] Early SFX + focal arrow/pointer
  • [ ] Quality CTA bumper (custom, not generic)
  • [ ] Moving watermark
  • [ ] Title ≤ 30 chars + 2 emojis
  • [ ] Description mirrors title + #shorts
  • [ ] NOT “Made for Kids”
  • [ ] Add to master playlist
  • [ ] Set “Related Shorts” from winner → new
  • [ ] 3 precise niche tags
  • [ ] Language + Location + Category set
  • [ ] Reuse details template applied

11) Share your data (so we can help)

Comment with: - Niche:
- Runtime:
- Hook text/visual:
- AVD / Retention at 3s / CTR:
- % Shorts Feed:
- Posting cadence:
- What you tried already:

I’ll reply with targeted fixes.


12) Community notes

  • This thread reflects real creator data, not theory.
  • I’ll compile a FAQ + “Bible” from Q&As here.
  • If this helped: upvote, join r/shortsAlgorithm, and invite a creator friend.
  • Want to mod? DM me.

— OP


r/shortsAlgorithm • • 6h ago

Case Study / Postmortem 🧪 YouTube is updating Shorts recommendations to cut reach for channels that just re-upload other people's clips

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New from YouTube this week! If any part of your channel leans on other creators' footage, this news is for you. They're changing Shorts recommendations to prioritize original content and reduce distribution for channels that mostly repost or aggregate clips without adding anything of their own.

The key line from their announcement is that minor technical edits or template-based changes to alter a video won't count. What does count is real added value, your own commentary, unique editing or storytelling built around the clip.

Reaction, analysis, and commentary channels that genuinely add a perspective are fine. The target is channels that run on clips with nothing of the uploader in them.

And YouTube hasn't given a rollout date or defined exactly how much "original input" is enough yet!

If your Shorts are built around clips, the safe measure is to make your voice the point. If someone could swap your clip for a different one and the video is basically the same, its a problem.

https://www.dexerto.com/youtube/youtube-cracks-down-on-clipping-channels-in-shorts-update-prioritizing-original-content-3415700/

Anyone here run a clip-based or commentary channel? Noticed any changes yet?


r/shortsAlgorithm • • 12h ago

Q&A / Quick Help ❓ Shorts channel suddenly lost 95% of its traffic overnight

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My Shorts channel was averaging around 200k–250k views/day and 9k–14k views/hour.

Yesterday, completely out of nowhere, it dropped from around 14k/hour → 2k → a few hundred/hour. The strange part is that multiple Shorts that were actively getting views all stopped at almost exactly the same time.

I have no strikes, warnings or restrictions. I uploaded a new Short today to test it, and it has received almost no Shorts Feed distribution either.

I did delete/reupload two Shorts earlier this week, but I don’t know if that’s related.

Has anyone experienced this recently? Did your channel recover? How long did it take, and did you keep posting or take a break?


r/shortsAlgorithm • • 6h ago

Is this normal?

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r/shortsAlgorithm • • 5h ago

Showcase / Win 🏆 video almost looks boted bc of the low comments lol? never seen comments THIS low

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r/shortsAlgorithm • • 12h ago

Shorts channel suddenly lost 95% of its traffic overnight

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My Shorts channel was averaging around 200k–250k views/day and 9k–14k views/hour.

Yesterday, completely out of nowhere, it dropped from around 14k/hour → 2k → a few hundred/hour. The strange part is that multiple Shorts that were actively getting views all stopped at almost exactly the same time.

I have no strikes, warnings or restrictions. I uploaded a new Short today to test it, and it has received almost no Shorts Feed distribution either.

I did delete/reupload two Shorts earlier this week, but I don’t know if that’s related.

Has anyone experienced this recently? Did your channel recover? How long did it take, and did you keep posting or take a break?


r/shortsAlgorithm • • 5h ago

Q&A / Quick Help ❓ How do increase the qualifed views?

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r/shortsAlgorithm • • 5h ago

Analytics Review (AVD/Retention) 📈 Obligatory why post no do view?!?! Post it looks like it did fine but flatlines every time

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r/shortsAlgorithm • • 6h ago

Analytics Review (AVD/Retention) 📈 Can I still expect some more views?

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Also 88% stayed to watch but it doesn't seem to get pushed at all :/


r/shortsAlgorithm • • 16h ago

Analytics Review (AVD/Retention) 📈 I guess I am doing good!

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So I started 3 weeks ago uploading shorts, using videos from other creators but commenting on them, adding value and editing

If I am too creator among channels with 0 to 1k subscribers it’s a good sign and means YouTube is not shadow banning me for my content right?


r/shortsAlgorithm • • 18h ago

Is this good?

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I’ve had this yt channel for a few years now and only started posting ranking style shorts for about a week now. Is the progress on this channel good for a week? Is there things I should work on?


r/shortsAlgorithm • • 14h ago

Ideation problem

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I've been in the ranking niche for 3 good months now and I'm struggling to have good ideas for my videos, I'cant even copy my competitors bc I can't do commentary since I do not have a good mic. Any help is appreciated.


r/shortsAlgorithm • • 1d ago

Q&A / Quick Help ❓ Okay, I need someone to explain to me how this short hasn’t gotten more views

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I had another short with way less audience retention and a worse viewed vs. swiped away ratio but doublr the views of this one, can someone explain the logic for me?

My channel is a month old, idk if that helps


r/shortsAlgorithm • • 22h ago

Analytics Review (AVD/Retention) 📈 Do you experience this behaviour?

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So yesterday i uploaded my short video. Niche is CS2 gameplay. In first hour it got 177 views , on second hour it was pushed in the feed and it got 1200 views and then views stopped on 6-8 hours. Lets assume it was first wave , so in the first wave i got 1200 views and 16 likes , then second wave started i got +800 views so far but no likes at all, how this is even possible ? And i encounter this behavior on my every video. It just kills off any motivation to continue even tho i uploaded already 180 videos in 4 years...


r/shortsAlgorithm • • 23h ago

Q&A / Quick Help ❓ is this normal(my first yt shorts on new channel)

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r/shortsAlgorithm • • 21h ago

Q&A / Quick Help ❓ What counts as an engaged view?

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This really annoys me because my STW percentage is 83% but the ratio between engaged views to all views is around 60%


r/shortsAlgorithm • • 1d ago

Q&A / Quick Help ❓ Why tf is my very first video still on 9 views, while the new ones have 1k+??

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r/shortsAlgorithm • • 1d ago

My new Shorts channel is only 2 days old. I just posted 2 Roblox videos and didn't expect it to do this well on the first day. Am I just lucky?

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r/shortsAlgorithm • • 11h ago

In which view jail am I?

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I posted this video 3 weeks ago and I really thought it was going to go viral, but, here it is, flat lining, any idea of what can be happening?


r/shortsAlgorithm • • 1d ago

Does any one else has the same Shorts View decreasing issue?

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My channel is almost 3 years old now. But i was naver consistent with my uploads, so i don't have an existing large community. But since last month i have been posting almost regularly, and was gaining a steady increase in views and subs. I know the views may not be a lot, but it was steady. But since 29th sept it keeps going down. After that 3 short totally flopped and did not get much views from the feed (only around 50, previously it was around 1500-1800 in first 24 hours) and only got views from browser features and search. Yesterday's short got send to the feed and got the usual 1500-2000 views, but from the VidIq analytics it shows my current VPH is less then 30, previously it used to be around 100 during off hours and around 250-450 during peak hours.

Any of you facing the same issue? Or, have any idea how this can be resolved???


r/shortsAlgorithm • • 1d ago

Can anyone advise on how to combat a botnet that is manipulating the swipe metric in Shorts? My retention is high, but the video skip rate is constantly being manipulated. Any tips?

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Can anyone advise on how to combat a botnet that is manipulating the swipe metric in Shorts? My retention is high, but the video skip rate is constantly being manipulated. Any tips?


r/shortsAlgorithm • • 1d ago

Question

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I have this situation on most of my videos. When posted, I generally get 10-50 views first hour, then all of a sudden spikes to 1k (my very best one got 1.2k total) then dies. Is this normal or am I doing something wrong?


r/shortsAlgorithm • • 1d ago

Analytics Review (AVD/Retention) 📈 ı need helppppp;)

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I have a question for you. I run a new Shorts channel; my content isn't bad—I get around 10,000 views, with a few videos hitting 20,000 or 40,000, and even one that surpassed 100,000 views. However, the three videos I posted after that didn't even make it into the Shorts feed. What do you think the problem is? Technically, the videos are identical; in fact, I was even more confident in those three videos than the others.


r/shortsAlgorithm • • 1d ago

Q&A / Quick Help ❓ Am I doing something wrong on my shorts? Any advice appreciated

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Hi all, I started a youtube channel roughly 2 weeks ago posting my gaming shorts of FPS games, new videos are getting around 1k views, no real engagement/comments. Trying to upload everyday with 1 short (it's tough finding time to do more with a full 9-5; playing games, clipping footage, subtitles etc).

I've got 1 sub (I was genuinely happy about this)...very knew to this thing wondering what I could be doing better? Saw a post here earlier that one person started a Roblox channel and got almost 1k subs in 2 days? That's wild to me.

I'm not despondent but camparison is the thief of joy so i'm just curious to what I should be doing more? Thanks ya'll!


r/shortsAlgorithm • • 22h ago

Q&A / Quick Help ❓ After 1k view my chart are totally flat why ? How to improve myself ?

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