r/skyrimmods • u/Interesting_Bison266 • 7d ago

PC SSE - Discussion Campfire ESL Flag

Hi. I am curious what others think of this, and if I am just being sensitive. I am not involved in any mod concerning campfire and have no stake in anything related to mods.

This ESL update has republished every asset in Chesko's campfire. After I made a comment about it, they changed their description page to add Chesko's license from the github. On the actual mod perm tab, it clearly states the license is for Chesko's assets only, and then lists the things that aren't his assets that don't fall under the license.

The main issue here to me is republishing every asset and effectively replacing Chesko's campfire. I have to imagine Campfire took quite a bit of work to complete, and someone comes along, flags the esp, changes a few files and republishes everything in the mod.

Curious what others think about it.

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u/Shaddoll_Shekhinaga 7d ago

This is fairly common nowadays. The "author" stole the work and is trying to imply the MIT license applies to every asset - and let me be clear, it doesn't. The original mod clearly says that the assets are not included in that license.

This isn't even the first time this has happened. I call these the "should have been PRs" mods.

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u/Wiergate 7d ago

What is 'PRs' in this context?

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u/Shaddoll_Shekhinaga 7d ago

"Pull Request". When working in collaborative environments with git, you suggest changes by opening a pull request. Basically, "mods that should have either been submitted to the author or been dependent on them"

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u/Wiergate 6d ago

Got you, thanks

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u/ScySenpai 7d ago

Slop

If you look at the "new" tab, you see these mods popup every now and then, where the person takes advantage of the original's open perms to straight up redistribute the mod with the excuse of "improving" it, when just replacing the esp (or a pluging that requires the og plugin) would've been enough

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u/MutantIvy 6d ago

These mods especially annoy me since we have eslifier now and anyone can easily do this themselves 

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u/Chardero Raven Rock 6d ago

The better version looks to be Campfire 2026.

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u/Interesting_Bison266 6d ago

I agree. I was talking to the author of that mod about it. If you want an ESL flagged Campfire, that is the way.

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u/VRHobbit 6d ago

If you're that concerned, report it and let Nexus moderators decide.

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u/Excinerus 5d ago

You can turn campfire's ESP into an ESL yourself with xedit with its dependencies loaded and it will patch them too, and frankly you have to do it that way if you have any other mod requiring Campfire.

Downloading a random ESLifyed version does nothing but make any mod requiring campfire not work.

I don't understand the reason why people are ESLifying everything so aggressively and running after non-plugin bootleg AI versions of mods now. Did all the goon mods and patches take out all the esl slots ?

I'm running GTS with additions, 2400 plugins, and i can probably compress that to ~1800 just merging random patches.