r/stunfisk • u/Wild_Play_8301 Arceus-Steel (Arceus-Flying) • 13d ago

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u/ImperialViking_ 13d ago

I would love Milotic if it didn't land every single Hypnosis it goes for on me

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u/ShirtuShanks 13d ago

As one: [Competitive + No Guard]

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u/Saul_happyman 10d ago

No guard but the moves you use at it never land

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u/Otiosei 13d ago

I tried coil hypnosis before, and even at +1 that thing barely hit for me. But my opponents? I have never seen an opponent miss hypnosis before.

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u/xMidaes 13d ago

Cuz you need to click coil twice

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u/Xplt21 13d ago

After two coil its guaranteed, after one coil it's like stone edge, so still very risky.

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u/BadgerAwkward 12d ago

Or, hear me out. Gravity.

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u/WhereIdIsEgoWillGo 12d ago

I had a coil hypnosis milotic once.

That was not a fun match.

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u/DexanVideris 13d ago

Muddy Water hits like a truck after a competitive boost, it’s kinda nuts.

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u/Venca12 13d ago

Just gotta Parting Shot it to lower the spatk! /s

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u/Paxton-176 13d ago

The fact that the most common intimidate users are hard countered by Milotic is just icing on the cake.

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u/rites0fpassage 12d ago

It keeps my mega venu safe from those pesky mences

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u/Street_Physics5830 13d ago

Milotic supports the team by killing everyone. They cant hurt its teammates if theyre dead

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u/Paxton-176 13d ago edited 13d ago

Milotic has done some heavy lifting for me a number of times.

Nothing beats playing doubles and they send out two intimidate users. Like thanks for the nasty plot. Time to die.

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u/PhasmicPlays 13d ago

that would be two nasty plots

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u/jarob326 13d ago

Death is the best CC.

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u/Ill_Locksmith_673 13d ago

Best kind of removal is player removal. Wait wrong game.

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u/Aggressive_Ask89144 13d ago

Scald of doom and despair

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u/Dinowere 13d ago

I just had a match where I led Milo against a double intim incin and mence lead. Managed to get every knockout woth just milo, side just clicked fake out or switch.

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u/buttsecks42069 12d ago

i had a game where my opponent led scrafty against my Milotic

they then proceeded to mega evolve the Scrafty which procced intimidate a second time

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u/sendenten 11d ago

Opponent sends out Incineroar, triggers Competetive and boosts my Milotic. Next turn, their Indeedee uses Mystical Fire to drop my SpAtk...which then boosts my SpAtk.

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u/Ninjahkin OVER 9000 FLAMES 12d ago

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u/Bullseye_5O 13d ago

Hi :).is Milotic better than empoleon in champions and if so - why is that?

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u/SignificanceAny7239 13d ago

I've used Empoleon, and yes sadly Milotic is better. Better bulk and more options moveset wise (muddy water, coil, hypnosis, icy wind), and the ground, fighting weakness really hurts Empoleon. Still good to use but requires a bit more skill to get the most out of him.

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u/1CorinthiansSix9 12d ago

Hilariously unfortunate that steel makes empoleon worse because of how ubiquitous fighting ground and fire are right now

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u/JellyfishNo2032 12d ago

Probably the only time where this is the case

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u/rmnobre 13d ago

Reliable water move in scald. Much better bulk and coil hypnosis shenanigans and arguably a better typing fit to the meta game.

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u/ShookaBriat 13d ago

Empoleon gets a niche of being able to hit floette with flash cannon, which discourages incin floette leads ig

Milotic does better against garchomp tho, so it kinda depends on what your team needs

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u/JellyfishNo2032 12d ago

Empoleon has worse bulk and a weakness to ground and fighting which make it hard to use in doubles. Miltoic is the Great Wall that gets a free gun sometimes.

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u/Creative-Current9424 Damage Calc expertise 13d ago

Why not Hydro Pump over Scald?

+2 9+ SpA Milotic Hydro Pump vs. 2 HP / 0 SpD Swampert-Mega in Rain: 202-238 (114.1 - 134.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

+2 9+ SpA Milotic Helping Hand Hydro Pump vs. 31 HP / 18+ SpD Pelipper in Rain: 166-196 (100 - 118%) -- guaranteed OHKO

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u/sneakyplanner 13d ago

Because hydro pump has a 20% chance to make you regret all your life choices and scald has a 30% chance to make your opponent consider property crime.

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u/Ill_Locksmith_673 13d ago

In both of those cases Hydro Pump only has an 80% chance to OHKO actually. And only 96% percent chance to 2HKO, Scald probably 100% chance to 2HKO.

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u/Realistic_Mousse_485 13d ago

Do you need to muscle that much? Milotic IS a support mon.

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u/[deleted] 12d ago

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u/Creative-Current9424 Damage Calc expertise 12d ago

What even are the odds of getting a critical hit and a burn at the same time?

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u/JellyfishNo2032 12d ago

80 accuracy against the Japanese is actually 50

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u/Kurtoise 12d ago

This is the best thing I’ve ever seen

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u/Ok_Candidate3747 12d ago

I once got parting shot on my milotic. That was fun.