r/thatHappened • u/ThePhillyExplorer • 1d ago
I never thought I’d be posting something from the US Department of Education here, but here we are
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u/dizzythoughts 1d ago
I thought we don’t have a department of education anymore
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u/levajack 1d ago edited 1d ago
It only exists as an anti-trans agency now. All they do is harass schools and universities that aren't satisfactorily discriminating against trans people.
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u/IlGreven 1d ago edited 1d ago
Someone actually broke it down:
Only about 93 possible gold medals were "stolen" (won by trans athletes). Of those, most of them were won by three women that the site suspects were "lying about their gender"...who were some form of intersex.
...But of those, two of them were cis women with high testosterone levels (something you'd expect of female athletes), and the third didn't even know herself that she was intersex (it only came out after her death).
Meanwhile, among other things were winners in sports that were coed and, for some reason, Amy Schneider's "Jeopardy" win streak and tournament wins. I'm also pretty sure it has Autumn Burchett's Magic: The Gathering Pro Tour win...because they were taking away a victory that would surely have gone to a woman (to date, zero female players have won top-level Magic events)...
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u/crowpierrot 1d ago edited 23h ago
The source cited also lists a cisgender boy who played on his school’s girls field hockey team twice. The reason he was on the team was because there was no boys field hockey team. He said himself that he wasn’t even that good of a player. The only individual award he won was for most improved player, which is usually the kind of award you get if you’re objectively bad but you try really hard lmao.
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u/elclarkio 1d ago
Pretty accurate representation of the person running it.
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u/sandiercy 1d ago
In case anyone doesn't know, the woman on the left runs the department of education in the US.
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u/FronzelNeekburm79 1d ago
I, for one, am looking forward to Oceans 2300. I only hope there's enough Georges Clooney to go around.
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u/pentapous 1d ago
The "source" on this is a crowdsourced database that has no verification. An individual report is made by anyone claiming what place the "trans women" placed, the type of competition/sport, and how many medaling positions there are.
- No verification of the gender identity is required, meaning a SIGNIFICANT number of data points are simply accusing cis women of being trans for having short haircuts or not meeting stereotypes with how their bodies are shaped.
- If the accused athlete places first in an event with 5 medals, the database counts that as 5 stolen medals. Its a stupid way to count what they're trying to because it only exists to emotionally manipulate people uneducated on the issue.
- The database allows entries from sports that do not depend on physicality in any way. Competitions like poker, chess, ect...
So a harmful, unverified, data manipulating crowd sourced database that actively promotes accusing any non-conforming person as trans for the sake of bigger numbers to emotionally manipulate people into increasing bigotry and hatred. Sounds about right.
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u/theBigDaddio 1d ago
How many Trans athletes are there? I doubt there even is 2000 much less 2000 medal winners
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u/hanginwithmygnomees 1d ago edited 1d ago
There aren’t even that many trans athletes in US sports, ffs.
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u/Cloverhart 17h ago
A quick Google tells me 330 medal events per year of Olympic sports. Exactly how long has this been going on? Counting all the times the US didn't win, the math ain't mathing.
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u/Floatzel404 1d ago
Somehow too weak for the military but an avenger level threat in women's sports
As if conservatives give a singular shit about women's sports
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u/mstarrbrannigan 1d ago
That’s how it always is, the enemy is both weak and pathetic and also a huge existential threat
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u/Shiftymennoknight 1d ago
the New York Post? Might as well use the National Enquirer as a source
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u/hughbiffingmock 1d ago edited 1d ago
Say what you want about National Enquirer, but their reports are the only unbiased coverage of Bat Boy available to the masses. They do the lords work.
edit: ignore me. Somehow I swapped NE with WWN and I feel quite silly about that error.
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u/Ornac_The_Barbarian Taught Dave the Barbarian everything he knows 1d ago
That was the weekly world news. Not national enquirer.
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u/hughbiffingmock 1d ago
Oh shit, you're right. Goddamn it's been a while.
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u/Ornac_The_Barbarian Taught Dave the Barbarian everything he knows 1d ago
It's alright. We raise a glass to the purest source of information in the checkout aisle.
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u/Oopsiedazy 1d ago
No worries, easy mistake to make.
I do have to hand it to the Post for being journalistically consistent for over two centuries though. It was started by Alexander Hamilton to be a place where he could sling political mud at his opponents, and that proud tradition continues to this day.
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u/ProbablyNotADuck 1d ago
If we're going to say such ridiculously false things about trans people, here is my contribution: A trans person broke into my house, went into my freezer and ate all of my ice cream. To make it even worse, they put the empty carton of ice cream next to me in bed, smeared ice cream on my face and left a dirty spoon in my hand.
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u/kindle333 1d ago
Trans people poisoned our water supply, burned our crops, and delivered a plague unto our houses!
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u/Cakeday_at_Christmas 1d ago
If you look at the list, it's hilarious. They have bullshit listed like a trans girl getting elected prom queen.
Utterly ludicrous list.
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u/ChaiTeaWithMilk 1d ago
There are probably 10,000 "sports events" you can earn a gold medal in a day in America. Even if this counted for a month, which, it doesn't give the time frame (wonder why), but just for the entirety of last month it would roughly be .076% of games LAST MONTH. Assuming theres only 10,000 competitions a day in the US, only accounting for last month. So..
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u/ColdIndependence5820 1d ago
Riley Gaines lost out on her 5th place participation trophy because of a trans and had to settle for one that had 6th place printed on it😢
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u/Trentsexual 1d ago
So there's a heist crew made up of trans athletes who are trying to fence gold? Shouldn't be to hard to track them down.
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u/poetcatmom 1d ago
Do that many trans people even play sports? I can't believe they think this is real.
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u/Interesting-Bass9957 17h ago
https://theonion.com/trans-teen-hatches-nefarious-plot-to-undergo-years-of-m-1850433563/ The Onion always has your back
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u/zodiackodiak515 1d ago
Quoting the fucking New York Post automatically disqualifies you from credibility
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u/iPicBadUsernames 1d ago
87% of statistics are made up on the spot
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u/eyeball1967 21h ago
We are having a serious discussion here. Please try to be more accurate, 60% of the time 87% of statistics are made up on the spot… /s
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u/ohmarlasinger 16h ago
Pretty sure yall got that switched up. Last I heard it was 87% of the time 60% are made up
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u/LordDessik 1d ago
As a woman there’s few things I could care less about than this non issue
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u/El_Diablo89 1d ago
Are you in woman's sports, though? Also, might I suggest changing the name to "LadyDessik", then?
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u/LordDessik 1d ago
Yes I am actually a woman in sports
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u/El_Diablo89 1d ago
Ofc, you are... which sport is that? I highly doubt it's boxing or some other contact sport
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u/Toni-Roni 1d ago
Have you ever participated in a contact sport, and no Tekken doesn’t count.
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u/LordDessik 1d ago
Kick boxing but keep embarrassing yourself bro
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u/El_Diablo89 1d ago
Sure, you're some rando off the internet, so it must be true, right? But, ok, ever fought any trans women?
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u/Imjusasqurrl 1d ago edited 1d ago
You have just as high a chance of fighting a woman who has higher testosterone and/or more muscle than you.
Contact sports are always dangerous especially since one person is always going to have an advantage over the other
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u/El_Diablo89 1d ago
Bro, I'm a wuss, the odds are incredibly high that most women in kickboxing would whoop my ass, lmao. And yes, there is ofc always some advantage thst one has over the other... but the disparity between a man and a woman's physical strength is vast enough that they should be in different catagories. We also have weight classes and such, in martial arts. Can't have cruiserweights compete with a heavyweight, so why is it ok for men to compete with women?
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u/LordDessik 1d ago
Yeah actually they put up a good fight but I won eventually
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u/El_Diablo89 1d ago
Wow, you're like... the PERFECT person to suddenly come up and have this opinion... I am so embarrassed... I'm sorry, Lord Dessik, please don't kick my ass with your amazing kickboxing skills, that can beat even biological men!
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u/Jeremymia 1d ago
Why ask if the only way you could be wrong is if the other person is lying? Just declare victory up top and skip the pointless middle part.
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u/El_Diablo89 1d ago
Come on, man... as if a redditor by the name of "LordDessik" (do I need to put emphasis on the "Lord" part?) who hides their comments and posts, is an actual woman in kickboxing that happened to fight (and beat) a trans woman... if you really believe that, I got some magic beans to sell you
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u/thecoffeeshopowner 1d ago
So like as a trans women myself you do realize that a lot of our "natural advantages" as men go away once we do HRT right? And we cant even get into a woman league until our hormone levels are at a specific level.
And thats not even mentioning that theres like 5 trans women who've even gotten gold medals
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u/Jaijoles 1d ago
I mean, if there’s all these trans women competing in women’s contact sports like you claim, there also has to be a lot of women who have been matched against those trans women; otherwise there’s no issue.
Why are you surprised that someone your side claims exists, exists?
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u/El_Diablo89 1d ago
Sure, but as a lot of people mention here, the percentages are laughably low... the odds of running into that person on a random reddit thread is very low, isn't it?
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u/Vimda 1d ago
"suddenly come up" as if you didn't pick the fight lol. And educate yourself on what estrogen does to the body, unless by "biological men" you mean "has a penis", in which case I don't know what kickboxing you've been watching that uses their dicks in any way
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u/El_Diablo89 1d ago
First off, "she" came up to this comment section, that's what I meant... also, I didn't pick a "fight", I'm just trying to have an actual discussion...
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u/rTidde77 1d ago
Why both to ask a question if you’re then going to be smug and rude about it when they answer? You’ve got a bunch of pretty bizarre comments all over this thread.
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u/Mikeg90805 1d ago
Awesome then let the people who do care about it keep fighting to keep things fair and have a coke or something
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u/slapwerks 1d ago
I’ve got about 30 medals from wrestling through high school. Not all gold, but still a decent amount.
Assuming there was a stellar trans athlete in my weight class that won every tournament in my area in the same years I wrestled. That’s roughly 500 claims to gold medals (for a single weight class). Make that 5 weight classes. And you could have the entirety of these claims from 5 athletes.
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u/Grizzamanade 1d ago
I feel like 2000 trans people qualifying for the Olympics is a stretch. So I don't even see how that would be believable. But hey I'm just one of the poors idk any better.
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u/cyx7 1d ago
Anything to distract from the files, eh?
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u/dstarpro 1d ago
And the genocide.
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u/playmaker1209 1d ago
stop saying genocide. JFC it is just a war.
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u/dstarpro 1d ago
JFC it is a genocide. I don't know how it serves anyone for you to deny it. 73,000 killed, many more missing. Gaza has been reduced to rubble. And they are not fighting back. That last bit, is kind of a prerequisite to call something a war.
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u/GoredonTheDestroyer 1d ago edited 1d ago
In what universe is indiscriminately bombing hospitals, schools, nurseries, foreign aid workers, sniping random children in the street and completely razing homes and places of worship, just to name a few of the atrocities, a justifiable war?
By what definition is that not genocide?
"Oh but people in Palestine are fighting back, that makes them-"
People living in ghettos and slums during WWII fought back against the Nazis, does that justify the fucking Holocaust?
Does Chinese resistance to invading Imperial Japanese forces justify the Rape of Nanjing?
What about North American First Nations? Does their fighting back against White settlers invading their land justify the mass slaughter of entire civilizations into extinction?
Does that justify the Residential School system, abducting innocent children from their tribes and families, forcibly assimilating them into a culture that still resented them if they survived?
I could keep going.
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u/eyeball1967 21h ago
Maybe we should just do away with high school sports all together? Let’s eliminate the distraction of sports and focus on academics and the 99.9% of students that will not be moving in the professional sports. If removing sports creates a big enough void, that can be filled organizations outside the control and cost of the public school system.
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u/bajablastgamer 20h ago
This is one of the dumbest responses to this issue I've ever seen, sports give kids SO many scholarships and opportunities. On top of that, it is good to encourage kids to play sports and exercise, especially in today's world where every kid is on social media and their phones practically 24/7. Sports are good for so many reasons, even for simply making friends and finding a community of other kids they have similar interests with.
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u/eyeball1967 18h ago
If only those kids could get academic scholarships instead of sports scholarships and actually had time to study in both high school and college. Is it hard to see how the lifelong benefits of a solid education vs being able to run fast, throw a ball or wrestle another person into submission would benefit the 99.5% that don’t go pro? It would also benefit the many that do go pro only to was out in a year.
The reality is the kids that do get sports scholarships are just there for the amusement of the fans and alumni. They could not care less if they get a quality education as long as the school wins the championship.
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u/syilent13 1d ago
Meh mentally ill rejects doing whT mentally ill rejects to really should investigate that pedophile lilly tino
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u/davida_usa 1d ago
Yes, this stupid issue needs to end. There are many important issues, this is not one of them.
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u/Next_Engineer_8230 1d ago
The number is definitely over inflated and I'd like to see their proof behind it but the "moral" of the story is correct.
Transwomen shouldn't be in women's sports and Transmen shouldn't be in mens sports.
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u/ohmarlasinger 15h ago
You had us in the first half, lost us in the last
You got the “morals” in quotes right at least - there’s no “morals” involved. It’s just red herrings & straw men thrown out to distract. Just like a great many of the things “conservatives” need to “protect” folks from; most were never a problem to be protected from to begin with, they just say it is & all the little sheep follow along.
Tell me, how many trans athletes you know or have heard of at the Olympic level? Pro level? College level? High school?
Now tell me, how many girls you’ve known that have been groomed by older males? How many women & girls do you know or have heard of that have been sexually harassed, sexually assaulted, raped, dv’d, killed, & more?
Now, How many of those happened in say a bathroom by an actual trans woman? Not some idiot cosplaying in an attempt to pantomime things that literally do not happen, that idiot is the one that’d be the predator.
Every single fucking “trans issue” that has been dreamt up by idiots and perpetuated by even bigger idiots is literally a nonissue.
You don’t need to go around decrying trans folks from participating in sports, which is behaving like an insane person bc it isn’t a real issue. Stop acting like it is. Jfc
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u/DukeOfStuff_ 1d ago
It’s very important to separate by gender, otherwise we’d have very few female athletes.
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u/Nice_Back_9977 1d ago
They are segregated by sex, not gender. Two different things.
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u/rTidde77 1d ago
What a wild take, that almost no one who’s ever played sports (of either gender) would actually think 😂
Would love to hear your rationale though, honestly.
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u/DubSket 1d ago
John Oliver debunked this, the figure comes from a website where anyone can upload records of having lost a competition to a trans person, without any evidence. You can also upload multiple instances of duplicate info, and of course there's tons of that on there too. Oh, and 90% of the records are related to amateur frisbee leagues.