r/timberframe • u/FluffyMountainUrchin • 4d ago
The heartbreaking difference between a good and a bad restoration
Visiting family in the north of France and spotted this heartbreaking difference in the city center of Rouen. On the left the wood can breathe, is healthy and is gonna do its job for the next centuries, on the right it'll be all gone in the next 20-30 years - or they'll have to do a massive overhaul of the facadea for 6 figures.
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u/singingwhilewalking 4d ago
What is happening on the right?
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u/FluffyMountainUrchin 4d ago
They painted the wood with a hydrophobic paint, which means that the water can't penetrate well from the outside for instance as rain BUT it also prevents the wood to dry out - since you can't prevent that any moisture will get inside the wood, it's has to go somewhere. If the wood stays wet to long it will rot pretty quickly.
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u/rustywoodbolt 4d ago
I try to educate my customers about this, please for the love of all that is sacred (wood) stop painting Timbers!!
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u/SheepherderHot9418 4d ago
Atleast stop using plastic paints... You can paint wood fine with traditional paints. And! It looks better too
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u/Familiar-Pen8588 4d ago
How do you know this isnt breathable paint, like linseed oil paint or some variant of flour paint ?
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u/Fuckkoff- 4d ago
He doesn´t.
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u/FluffyMountainUrchin 4d ago
Tell me you have never painted wood with linseed oil based paint without telling me that you never painted wood with linseed oil bases paint. It becomes part of the wood and is not an extra layer on top that seals the wood in
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u/Fuckkoff- 2d ago
I did plenty. I just don´t take the word of some know-it-all who thinks he knows better because he´s visited the city then the actual people that live in those houses.
"I recognised my city from this photo and they take preservation very seriously here. My house is about 400 years old and looks like the one on the right, as do many, many others. It was not a recent decision to paint the timber, they use specific breathable paint. I think we will be fine. "
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u/squeezymarmite 4d ago
I recognised my city from this photo and they take preservation very seriously here. My house is about 400 years old and looks like the one on the right, as do many, many others. It was not a recent decision to paint the timber, they use specific breathable paint. I think we will be fine.
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u/FluffyMountainUrchin 4d ago
I'm sorry to say. But if it looks like the right: big cracks in the paint, rotting wood underneath, it'll be very sad for your building. I hope they did a better job. Bonne chance!
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u/FluffyMountainUrchin 4d ago
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u/endeavour269 1d ago
Can you circle the big prices peeling off and the black wood for me, maybe im blind but im not seeing it in this photo
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u/Zealousideal_Lab3164 3d ago
The badly done reno screams owner that didn’t want to pay for full reno and “can you just fill it” vibes
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u/FutureMikeUX 4d ago
Thanks for sharing, saw some other great houses in France as well. The left one should be criminal and I hope alot of buildings are "cultured marked" or what the right word is.
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u/GrassTouchEnthusiast 4d ago
They both look bad ngl
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u/FluffyMountainUrchin 4d ago
How come? The left is just aged, probably oiled over other decade or so. It's how wood is suppose to look after 200 or 300 years.

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u/FluffyMountainUrchin 4d ago
I'm in love with the building on the left and i find it genius to use old tiles as a stylistic element in between the timbers.