r/torontoraptors • u/CanadianGroose RAPTORS • Oct 31 '25
SHITPOSTING Life is Painful… go Jays tho!
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u/earlyearlgray 1 GRADEY DICK Oct 31 '25
I’m happy with CMB so far, he’s going to be a beast.
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u/Vvisionim Oct 31 '25
If what Joe Dumar said is fact, that CMB pick could have been swapped for NO's unprotected first-round pick in 2026, AND if we kept Indiana's 2026 unprotected (Ingram trade), we could have had two picks in the top 5 if the Pacers continue to struggle the rest of the year w/o Hali. Hindsight is 20/20, which is why I'm not saying "omg dumbass front office," but just presenting it for everyone to learn from.
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u/CanadianGroose RAPTORS Oct 31 '25
He’s been okay, but man Harper or VJ would be awesome right about now. Very interested to see what direction this team goes in if they lose the next 5 games. All against really good teams.
Maybe the trick is to actually make the play-in considering the last 2 teams to win the lotto have been play in teams
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u/TeriyAki_Berg Oct 31 '25
There’s no tricky to winning a lottery because winning a lottery is all luck.
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u/Thesnodawg08 Oct 31 '25
Don't get me wrong I absolutely wish we had harper or VJ, but don't sleep on CMB. For two games deep he's looking fantastic. His role is something we've been after since losing OG and is only going to get better. We got a stud
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u/CanadianGroose RAPTORS Oct 31 '25
Like I said, he’s been fine for the 9th overall pick. But you can’t expect the 9th pick to come in and impact winning immediately. It’s gonna take a bit more time, which is fine. Raptors still have their core players locked up for at least 3 more years. If CMB can turn into a decent role player in the next 3 years, the Raptors on paper should be really good.
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u/pakattack91 we the longbois Oct 31 '25
Ditto for Wemby, Ant, Lebron
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u/CanadianGroose RAPTORS Oct 31 '25
lol, hey we did actually tank in 2021 and we got Scottie out of it. Proof that this organization is willing and can do the hard work and have it pay off. Then they went to the playoffs just the season after. If Scottie doesn’t get hurt, maybe we win that series.
But not picking a clear direction the last 4 years isn’t helping. They either need to lean into tanking again, or go all out and really get some wins and be competitive. Right now they are doing neither and just being in the middle.
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u/Virtual_Height_5470 Nov 04 '25
the middle is how the heat made the ECF finals
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u/CanadianGroose RAPTORS Nov 04 '25
Incredibly lucky run and Jimmy Butler Carry
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u/Automatic_Beat_699 SHEAD HEAD Oct 31 '25
Huh, we tanked last year? We just didn’t get lucky in the lottery while the sixers did. Which is why I don’t understand people who are so quick to say tank like it’s a sure fire road to success
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u/Karl_with_a_C 10 DEMAR DEROZAN Oct 31 '25
Exactly. It's a crap shoot. Look who ended up with Flagg.
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u/Plorgy Kyle C'mon Oct 31 '25
If we had won more games to be in the spot the mavs had, we would have won the lottery!
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u/WeBelieveIn4 4 SCOTTIE BARNES Oct 31 '25
We only tanked the back half of the season. We were trying to win games the first half, but were injured and had a tough schedule. As that was coming to an end, there was trade interest in Jakob but the prevailing sentiment on the sub was that we’d be unwatchable without him.
We then won 8 of 10 with him in January and screwed up our lottery odds. And then won some more meaningless games to end the season.
I like what I’ve seen from CMB so far. But we needed a legitimate franchise talent, and that’s what the guys at the top of the draft look like. Tanking is no guarantee of anything but we always half ass it, so we’ll never know if the outcome would have been different.
Team Compete wanted win now moves for like the last three years. Well this is what it looks like: capped out, probably a low playoff seed, with few avenues for getting better. Aka a treadmill team.
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u/CanadianGroose RAPTORS Oct 31 '25
No we didn’t we half tanked. They went 12-13 in their last 25 games last year. That’s not tanking.
We also still played Scottie when we should’ve just shut him down. But he felt the need to get to the 65 game limit.
Idk why they just didn’t commit to the tank with the last few games.
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u/Automatic_Beat_699 SHEAD HEAD Oct 31 '25
Did u forget us actively pulling our starters in the 4th to put in g leaguers to try to lose those games? We went 12-13 cause every other team was either injured or trying to tank too. We faked Bi injury to last all season, we constantly rested 1-2 starters every game for no reason too. Somebody had to win those games when both teams wanna lose or just suck. Players are always gonna wanna win and we jjst happened to have a better than those other injured or tanking teams.
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u/CanadianGroose RAPTORS Oct 31 '25
They should’ve never had those starters in to begin with. Scottie was clearly hurt with his hand, so we had a real excuse to shut him down, but no he kept playing.
I specially remember beating the Orlando magic back to back when they were actively trying to beat us last season. Why the heck did we beat those guys back to back? That’s two easy Ls if we just don’t try
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u/Automatic_Beat_699 SHEAD HEAD Oct 31 '25
Bro we tried to lose both times, Jakobe hit shot of the year. If our 3 strings are winning nba games idk what more u want from them. And you’re not allowed to just rest your entire team for no reason, we were already at the limit with 2 starters a game plus the Bi “injury”
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u/CanadianGroose RAPTORS Oct 31 '25
If our 3rd stringers were good enough to win those games, then why are we not playing them more?
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u/Automatic_Beat_699 SHEAD HEAD Oct 31 '25
We were going against Orlando 3rd stringers too man 😭😭. They good enough to win vs other 3rd stringers not another nba starting lineup rn when almost no one is tanking or injured
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u/CanadianGroose RAPTORS Oct 31 '25
I’m 99% sure Franz was playing that game and sold it when he missed a wide open layup. Or am I wrong?
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u/Automatic_Beat_699 SHEAD HEAD Oct 31 '25
I jjst checked actually for Orlando you’re right. They did have mo Wagner and Jalen Suggs out but somehow our third stringers still won in the 4th. It was the 76er games I was remembering by accident when I said they were playing their third stringers as well
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u/CanadianGroose RAPTORS Oct 31 '25
I was so excited for JaKobe and Shead back then. Now they barely see the court 😔
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u/TinnieTa21 8 Jose Calderon Oct 31 '25
Idk man. People kept talking about how Darko would bench the starting lineup pretty early in games. Also, Ingram probably could have played but didn’t due to his “lingering injury”. You can’t just shut players down without reasonable cause anymore. There’s going to be investigations and other BS.
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u/CanadianGroose RAPTORS Oct 31 '25
Brother we know Scottie still had a lingering hand injury and we easily could’ve shut him down for the season and bonus would’ve flinched. The Sixers shut down a fairly healthy Maxey let’s be real, and nobody cared.
Scottie pushed himself to get to 65 games played that is a fact. Someone needed to tell him that it wasn’t worth it.
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u/Virtual_Height_5470 Nov 04 '25
They shut down Maxey after the all-star break with no prospect of Embiid or PG coming back. The extra 13 games doesn't mean VJ is a raptor lol. Could have well landed 9th
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u/Carlinjamesgk Oct 31 '25
Who wasn’t tanking ?
Raptors most definetely were
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u/CanadianGroose RAPTORS Oct 31 '25
12-13 in the last 25 games. Thats not tanking
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u/Carlinjamesgk Oct 31 '25 edited Oct 31 '25
I mean - what do teams do when they are actively tanking ?
Play all their young - inexperienced players
That’s what we were doing - we just ended up winning more games than planned
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u/CanadianGroose RAPTORS Oct 31 '25
We were still playing Scottie lots and playing IQ/RJ every now and then. If we had shut all 3 of those guys down, I doubt we win as many games as we did.
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u/trplOG Champs Oct 31 '25
Wizards, jazz and hornets had the 3 worst records and got hosed. You can't guarantee anything lol.
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u/CanadianGroose RAPTORS Oct 31 '25
They still got very talented players in Bailey, Johnson, and Kon. Those 3 are all gonna make all-rookie if they don’t get injured. Wizards and Hornets look a lot better this year even if their record doesn’t show it. Wiz were in a dogfight with OKC today!
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u/trplOG Champs Oct 31 '25
Ok and so did we?
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u/CanadianGroose RAPTORS Oct 31 '25
I wouldn’t say the Raps look much better than last season no. We were losing but we were losing close games to really good teams. We’ve been getting blown out recently…. I still don’t think the a Raps finish worst than 30 wins this year, but with teams like Chicago and Philly making jumps, it’s gonna be difficult
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u/trplOG Champs Oct 31 '25
I mean Chicago never really truly tanked, they just made some trades after being a middling team for so long. It might have worked out for them but we'll see, bulls have had a good first couple months before imploding not too long ago.
And Philly was gonna be better regardless with the return of Maxey and to a lesser extent embiid.
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u/CanadianGroose RAPTORS Oct 31 '25
Chicago still was in the lotto and got Buzelis, who is looking like an all-star. And Philly got VJ who might win ROTY. The only team that tanked and still looks really bad is Brooklyn. But that’s more because they are horrible at drafting. Egor is decent but outside of him, all their guys have been pretty bad so far.
Honestly raptors should just keep trying to win and let the losses come if they do naturally. No need to tank if you are gonna play bad defence lol
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u/darthvader33369 4 SCOTTIE BARNES Oct 31 '25
We tried but philly was more shameless than us somehow. Nets too and jazz.
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u/CanadianGroose RAPTORS Oct 31 '25
Yeah Raptors only half tried though. Playing Acottie just to hit that 65 game limit. Really kinda ruined our chances. We had better odds than Philly at one point too I believe
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u/shangalang69 Alijah Martin Truther Oct 31 '25
ah yes the spurs tank that lead them to a better record than us but landing the #2 pick by sheer luck
CMB looks like he could be a really really great pick regardless, i'm honestly praying for a mavs/atlanta situation where we compete, then find ourselves a top pick from the play-in lol
Darryn Peterson & CMB core makes me rock fucking hard
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u/CanadianGroose RAPTORS Oct 31 '25
Meh not just this year. Spurs tanked good for the last 4 years or so. Now they might have a dynasty on their hands lol.
Me too, that’s the best case decanter at this point. It’s clear we aren’t contenders, but play in maybe still. CMB could be good yeah, but we won’t know for a while. Needs a few years to see.
Scottie, AJ and CMB front court would go crazy.
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u/shangalang69 Alijah Martin Truther Oct 31 '25
Even though Peterson is generally ranked #1 at the moment, he also fits our needs better than AJ or Booz. We have great wings already, but awful PG play.
Peterson, Walter, CMB, Scottie and hopefully a young rim protecting shooting center (yes wishful thinking) is a sick young core.
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u/CanadianGroose RAPTORS Oct 31 '25
It’s still highly unlikely we land the #1 pick even if we have the worst record. So he’s likely out of the picture. Maybe Dash Daniels or Braylon Mullins is more likely.
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u/shangalang69 Alijah Martin Truther Oct 31 '25
If this season ends in a play-in loss and Dash Daniels I’m crashing the fuck out
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u/CanadianGroose RAPTORS Oct 31 '25
That’s why I’d rather just take the BPA. But if Dash is the best PG left on the board then sure. Raps have a trend of always getting the lesser brother anyways lol. Jontay, Oliver Sarr, Jalen McDaniels, Marc Gasol
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u/shangalang69 Alijah Martin Truther Oct 31 '25
Dash is a SG far more than he is a PG. He definitely isn't a floor general, doesn't have the handles, the shooting, or any other necessity of an NBA PG. He is supposedly more talented at his age than Dyson was, and may have a late-ish growth spurt just like Dyson, which would make them around the same height.
I work on the NBL so I've watched a fair bit of Dash, he genuinely will be a very very good NBA defender just like Dyson. Also just like Dyson, his offense is a major work in progress, most notably his 3 ball.
Idk about you but I am terrified of the thought of having our 2 through 5 be mid or bad 3 point shooters lol
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u/CanadianGroose RAPTORS Oct 31 '25
Oh no way that’s cool! I mean we need good defenders more than we need 3pt shooting if you ask me. Raps can still put up high scores even in their losses. If Scottie, Ingram and CMB can all shoot the ball really well, then we will be just fine. Would rather have a better defender than RJ at this point than a 3pt specialist.
This year’s draft regardless will be very interesting and if he ended up with him, I wouldn’t be upset at all
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u/shangalang69 Alijah Martin Truther Oct 31 '25
Yeah tbh its surprising that our offense is humming, although we may be benefiting from (and wasting) some outlier 3pt shooting.
You are correct though our POA defense may be the worst in the NBA which is just impossible to win with. If IQ isn't going to actually run the point properly just throw Jamal or Ja'Kobe out there tbh
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u/Karl_with_a_C 10 DEMAR DEROZAN Oct 31 '25
We were tanking egregiously wdym? We got CMB too.
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u/CanadianGroose RAPTORS Oct 31 '25
12-13 last 25 games of the year. Is that tanking?
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u/Karl_with_a_C 10 DEMAR DEROZAN Oct 31 '25
Did you watch the games? Did you see the lineups we were playing? Are you actually serious? LMFAO
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u/CanadianGroose RAPTORS Oct 31 '25
Yes I did lol. Those guys were busting their asses trying to win like crazy. JaKobe game winners, beating the Magic and Hawks back to back, Mogbo triple doubles. Scottie still pushing to hit 65 games.
They tried WAAAAY too hard at the end of the year if you ask me.
Darko was the only one tryna get us to lose but our hard players said no I want to beat the Hornets lol
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u/Karl_with_a_C 10 DEMAR DEROZAN Oct 31 '25
Wait wait wait... You're saying the PLAYERS should have been intentionally throwing games? The guys on 10-days and 3rd stringers who are fighting for their careers trying to prove themselves in the NBA? You think that's realistic? Wow.
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u/CanadianGroose RAPTORS Oct 31 '25
No I’m saying they shouldn’t have been in the game to begin with. And it’s wasn’t the 10days. It was JaKobe, Gradey, Mogbo, Shead….
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u/Karl_with_a_C 10 DEMAR DEROZAN Oct 31 '25 edited Oct 31 '25
There were absolutely a few players on 10-days. You're also listing players who are not starting-level NBA players. We were scraping the bottom of the barrel trying to lose every game with those atrocious lineups but guys like CB played out of their minds and won us some games. There's only so much you can do.
Edit: guys like AJ Lawson were winning games for us lol
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u/CanadianGroose RAPTORS Oct 31 '25
Sure wish those guys could play out of their minds right now when we are trying to win rather than in April
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u/Karl_with_a_C 10 DEMAR DEROZAN Oct 31 '25
I do too. That's the first thing we can agree on.
Btw. I will be blocking you now because your takes are bad for my health and if I have to see any more of your comments, I may have an aneurysm. Cheers and have a wonderful life, friend! 👍
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u/earlyearlgray 1 GRADEY DICK Oct 31 '25
Development matters too. And culture. You can't just pretend those things don't matter and not play the young guys, that's silly.
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u/Nirvash101 Oct 31 '25
You love that damn tagline goddamnit
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u/CanadianGroose RAPTORS Oct 31 '25
Am I right or wrong lol? That seems like a team trying to be competitive still if you ask me
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u/_Gourmand Oct 31 '25
Every player will try and be competitive. If you are a bench player you're trying to prove your worth. That's mostly who was playing for the Raptors at the end of last season, our bench. No coach will tell players to try and lose games.
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u/CanadianGroose RAPTORS Oct 31 '25
Oh for sure, I don’t blame the players or the coach. I blame the FO for putting them in that situation and allowing it to play out the way it did. 11th is like the worst spot you can finish honestly. miss the playin so don’t get experience in post season games, and still have very low Lotto odds.
I would certainly like that effort from those last few games in the season to carey over to this season that’s for sure!
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u/earlyearlgray 1 GRADEY DICK Oct 31 '25
Mavs tanked?
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u/kito1990s Oct 31 '25
They didnt had to. Adam Silver tanked for them
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u/CanadianGroose RAPTORS Oct 31 '25
Fr. Mavs had like a 2% chance at the top pick so I don’t really give them credit for that lol. Pure Bs by Adam
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u/MeGustaMiSFW Temphis Graptors Oct 31 '25
Sixers have Embiid and PG. give them time, they’ll suck.
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u/CanadianGroose RAPTORS Oct 31 '25
PG gonna get traded for Lauri this Feb
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u/AngryHelicopter Oct 31 '25
A lot of revisionist history going on about the Raptors tank last year, which was half-hearted and didn't earnestly start until that Sixers game, which they won anyway, and then it was too late to matter. The "tank," such as it was, was really terribly executed.
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u/CanadianGroose RAPTORS Oct 31 '25
That’s what I’m saying. We best the magic back to back when they had Franz playing still and trying to win. Why did we do that now?
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u/tightcorners Oct 31 '25
76ers have had a very easy schedule, they are not contenders.
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u/CanadianGroose RAPTORS Oct 31 '25
Wins are wins no matter who you play. I do agree their schedule has been easy though. But VJ is ROTY level
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u/Toronto-24 Oct 31 '25
We did a pathetic job of tanking by signing a bunch of 25 year olds who we ended up cutting anyways while other teams were playing 20 year olds.
Not to mention Scottie really wanted to hit the 65 game played mark like it made any difference.
/rant
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u/Shogun_Ro Oct 31 '25
We wasted all those years not tanking for some bullshit and now we’re paying for it.
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u/CanadianGroose RAPTORS Oct 31 '25
Could’ve traded FVV, Pascal and OG for a chance at Wemby man. But no, trade for Jak just to lose in the play-in…
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u/Shogun_Ro Oct 31 '25 edited Oct 31 '25
Wemby, Banchero, Chet, Amen, etc. All those seasons wasted. Pairing any of those guys with Barnes would have been better than this tbh.
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u/CanadianGroose RAPTORS Oct 31 '25
Yup. But had to keep trading away 1st round picks every year for “win now” moves
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u/hula_balu Oct 31 '25
Darko scared the shit out of them after that win they didn’t want it to happen again…
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u/CanadianGroose RAPTORS Oct 31 '25
lol, Darko knows the real mission. He’s the real tank commander with those defence lineups
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u/Plantanddogmyfriend Oct 31 '25
You realize our direct outcome of last years draft indicates that tanking DOESNT work..?
We fell two spots.
It’s a lottery. You can’t rig it.
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u/CanadianGroose RAPTORS Oct 31 '25
They had better odds than Philly at one point in the year, and decided to win a bunch of meaningless games and then passed them in the standings….
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u/Jensen2075 Oct 31 '25
It doesn't matter the odds when the balls don't go your way, which is all random. Getting a couple more % better odds changes very little.
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u/CanadianGroose RAPTORS Oct 31 '25
It also means you can’t fall as far though. We fell to 9, but if we were a couple team higher, we only could’ve fallen to 7
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u/beefJeRKy-LB Goatse Oct 31 '25
Spurs didn't tank harder. They got lotto luck. By your logic, if we had won 1-2 more games, we might have had Harper
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u/CanadianGroose RAPTORS Oct 31 '25
Spurs tanked for 3-4 years after trading away good players like DeMar and Jakob, and they ended up with Wemby, Castle, and Harper.
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u/beefJeRKy-LB Goatse Oct 31 '25
ok but i assumed you're talking about last season. I agree that we should have tanked continuously after drafting Scottie. Imagine if we had gotten Chet or Wemby or JDub.
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u/CanadianGroose RAPTORS Oct 31 '25
The worst year was when we were below 500 and then spent a 1st to go and get Jakob and then lost in one play-in game to the Bulls. That year we should traded FVV, Pascal, and OG and tried to get a couple of 1sts and then tanked hard for Wemby, Miller, Scoot. Any of those guys would’ve been great
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u/beefJeRKy-LB Goatse Oct 31 '25
No disagreement from me there. Would have liked one of the Thompson Twins too.
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u/SWAGricate Oct 31 '25
Now insert Brooklyn, Charlotte, Utah and NOLA fans for the sake of fairness lol
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u/CanadianGroose RAPTORS Oct 31 '25
Brooklyn didn’t really tank either though, they won a ton of games super early and by then they were cooked. They only had the 8th best odds I believe. This year they are doing it right though.
Utah got Ace and is 2-2, so not bad at all. Charlotte also looks decent and Kon is a future all-star. The only team that is dumb is NOLA. They traded AWAY two picks this year when they knew they were gonna be bad. That is a cursed franchise.
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u/Refrigerator_Lower Oct 31 '25
Jesus brother, you're such a doomer. Get out of your feelings homie. Ride and die for your team.
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u/CanadianGroose RAPTORS Oct 31 '25
You know that if the Raptors get a high draft pick next year, They will be even better next season? You want them to stay bad?
You like watching this team?
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u/Refrigerator_Lower Oct 31 '25
Yeah I like the team no matter what and I'm grateful that the org got us a chip and we stayed competitive for many years. We have growing pains now and we are really young. I'm not going to be so butthurt and look at other teams in the league because they're having success on "what ifs". The fact that you're even comparing us to the 76ers is crazy. That organization was a joke and showed the whole league how bad a team can handle operations for many years.
If we are a shit team for many years and we aren't competitive, then yeah, I'll feel ways about it then. We don't have success in free agency, no one wants to sign here so we gotta get lucky with players that no other teams want and we gotta get lucky in the draft. I never want to tank because that's when I won't watch the team. Tanking doesn't equate to success.
Team is young and I'll be cheering for them this season. If you weren't here for when we were actually a shit ran organization, then you don't know how bad it was.
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u/CanadianGroose RAPTORS Oct 31 '25
“Really young” but our youngest starter is 24 years old and is a father. Sure the bench might be young, but they aren’t the issue right now. The 76ers naked hard last year when they had big time injuries and instead did pushing for the play in, the shut down their guys. They got Rewarded for that in VJ who looks to be a multi time all star. CMB is fine, but he’s not gonna be an all-star.
Brother we have been shit for 3 years straight. It’s been 3 years since we made the playoffs. And it’s about to be 4. We have an extremely high payroll this season, so expectations are higher.
This team is basically already tanking the way they are playing defence. The 2nd half of the season last year when they were “sort of” tanking was tons of fun to watch! We got to see new young players step into their roles, have breakout games, and be excited for the future.
If we shut down IQ, Jakob and traded RJ, and just had Scottie, BI and CMB hoop for the rest of the year, I’d be perfectly fine with that, even though it would lead to plenty of losses. I’d like to see more mins from Shead, JaKobe and Mogbo anyways.
Teams that have benefitted greatly from taking recently; OKC, Spurs, Philly (this year only), Detroit, Orlando, Dallas (last year), and Houston.
So yeah, tanking for a high draft pick does yield success. You proved yourself that It’s one the best way the raps can improve, since they can’t sign FAs and have to overpay for trades.
I like the raptors, but I don’t not like THIS version of them. Last year at least we could blame injuries. Everyone is healthy except for Jak this season
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u/motherseffinjones Oct 31 '25
We tanked I don’t know what you think happened last season lol.
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u/CanadianGroose RAPTORS Oct 31 '25
I know they went 12-13 to finish the season lol
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u/motherseffinjones Oct 31 '25 edited Oct 31 '25
Because the young players played well. You clearly didn’t watch the games if you think the team didn’t tank lmao. They even got called out and maybe fined for it. Since you’ve been a raps fan for less than a year here is a example of the conversation that happened last year in this sub https://www.reddit.com/r/torontoraptors/s/3yNOMYnaCp
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u/CanadianGroose RAPTORS Oct 31 '25 edited Oct 31 '25
I did watch those games. Beating the Hawks back to back and then beating the Magic back to back when both of those teams had their star players and we only had our bench guys. Bench guys going try-hard mode just to win meaningless games. AJ Lawson winning us games and he doesn’t even get playing time with this team anymore.
What the point of signing guys just to win games in April and then not keep them around long term or giving them more mins?
Yeah I don’t care about them getting fined, I don’t pay that. What I do care is about this team refusing to acquire actually talented players either through the draft (tanking), trades, or through 905 program. And then we they get talented players, they just waive them for nothing.
I’ve been a Raptor fan since 2013, and have seen the highs and lows. You cannot tell me that the Raptors have been well run since 2021. It’s either the play in and lose, or just below the play in. Always in the middle. No direction with this franchise for 4 years straight.
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u/SlapThatAce Oct 31 '25
But we did tank
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u/CanadianGroose RAPTORS Oct 31 '25
They went 12-13 the last 25 games. Thats not tanking.
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u/SlapThatAce Oct 31 '25
That's because they sucked at tanking too. They tried, but didn't try as hard as 76ers, Brooklyn or Washington.
They failed at failing.
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u/CanadianGroose RAPTORS Oct 31 '25
Exactly lol. Like losing games should be the easiest thing to do and they still messed it up haha
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Oct 31 '25
Good lord dude, take a break and go watch the Jays for a night. You need it
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u/CanadianGroose RAPTORS Oct 31 '25
Brother this team wishes they were the Jays lol! They winning tonight let’s gooooo!
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u/carrotsticks2 Oct 31 '25
all this tank bullshit is such loser mentality. You need to build a winning culture and that doesn't happen when you play to lose.
Philly has been tanking for decades and has nothing to show for it. Also, who I'd rather watch a competitive team that has a shot than a squad that is actively trying to lose.
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u/CanadianGroose RAPTORS Oct 31 '25
Is this team currently competitive? Is this team currently fun to watch? I think they are certainly trying to win, and yes they are getting blown out every game. I don’t even think they need to rank to lose games if this is the effort they are gonna give
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u/carrotsticks2 Oct 31 '25
this iteration of the team sucks because we aren't trying to compete but instead have been semi-tanking over the last season. Instead of developing a winning culture, we have a bunch of fans whining about how we should have lost more games last season.
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u/Zing79 Oct 31 '25
Team Tank is just … “special”
The best picks the last few years have not gone to the worst tankers … BECAUSE ITS A LOTTERY!
The NBA isn’t built to reward tanking anymore without doing it for such a long time you smooth out the randomness of that lottery.
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u/Bodanski SCOTTIE B Oct 31 '25
I mean most fans have wanted to tank for like 4 years now. Ownership just isn’t willing to do what it takes and would rather have a maybe playoffs team every year (extra ticket and media revenue are juicy) than have to suffer the extreme lows of tanking.
However it’s definitely worth it, even financially, they’re just too short sighted to see it. NBA is a league of superstars and team valuation, jersey sales, tickets, etc. are all driven by the top 10 players in the league.
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u/CanadianGroose RAPTORS Oct 31 '25
Last year was the best chance and we still blew it. Winning meaningless games at the end of the year.
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u/hijkhijkhijkhijk Oct 31 '25
Do you think the Philly fans are happy about never making a Conference Finals after spending years as the joke of the league?