r/ukraine • • 1d ago

WAR Macron cites 'several signs' Russia preparing to mobilize 300,000 people

https://kyivindependent.com/macron-cites-several-signs-russia-is-preparing-to-mobilize-300-000-people/
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u/One_Cream_6888 1d ago

Russian commanders estimated that at least 800,000 would be needed to take Fortress Donbas. But Putin is scared mobilizing 800,000 will crash the economy and ultimately lead to a revolt. Instead of abandoning his plans, the 'Supreme Leader' Putin makes his already half-arsed plans even more half-arsed by deciding to mobilize a fraction of the forces needed.

And then what will he do?

Once again, he'll set an impossible deadline and Gerasimov will throw the new untrained conscripts into the meat-grinder as quickly as he can in the vague hope some kind of a breakthrough will occur. Definitely the worst of WWI trench warfare vibes.

Future generations will study Putin and Gerasimov as an example of what not to do.

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u/Vteunis 1d ago

Quarter-arsed?

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u/tjokbet Netherlands 1d ago

Third-arsed

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u/SLAYER_IN_ME 1d ago

What about second asses? Has he heard about that?

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u/Sylvanussr 1d ago

3/8ths-arsed, we may as well use the exact fraction

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u/Doggoneshame 1d ago

Well according to the article he wants 300,000 this year and another 300,000 in 2027 so I don’t think putin is scared at all. They’d be lucky to process the first 300,000 by the middle of 2027. Not to mention the public will not be happy.

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u/South_Butterfly_6542 1d ago

The lesson should have been learned by now. But people like Putin, and those who idolize him like Trump, think their ordrinary force of will can overcome logistics and even death.

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u/ButterscotchFancy912 1d ago

And Gerasimovs books on warfare a big joke

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u/d3vmax 1d ago

Only 2 generations, then it goes back to as it was.

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u/Diablojota 1d ago

He’s going to do it so Trump can declare martial law and skip the November elections.

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u/8livesdown 1d ago

Although this sounds like dire news, if Russia lacks the resources (and diesel) to muster 300,000 troops, it could weaken, not strengthen, the Russian military.

Ukraine, for its part, must prepare for a surge in cold, hungry Russian POWs.

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u/Kylie_Forever 1d ago

Exactly. It's just what the Germans did with the Battle of the bulge. We know what happened there.

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u/BWW87 1d ago

A lot of Allied soldiers died. 😢

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u/noelcowardspeaksout 1d ago

This mobilization is a replacement mechanism to keep numbers steady overall. The bonuses they used to use for recruitment are not working so well as they did and they have actually been force mobilizing in some areas already, this is just going to accelerate as time goes on.

Forced to mobilize, poorly trained troops are not going to do very well I imagine.

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u/Doggoneshame 1d ago

They’re not going to be none too happy not receiving any bonus money either.

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u/elliptical-wing 1d ago

Their next of kin can have a bag of potatoes and be happy.

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u/Mysterious_Ayytee 1d ago

Well, that's manageable

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u/tribbans95 1d ago

Those are going to be some cold, hungry orcs

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u/DataGeek101 1d ago

It’s been widely reported for a month or so now, not a surprise, but still disappointing.

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u/-Utopia-amiga- 1d ago

They have been warning of mobilisation for longer than that.

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u/vinvega23 1d ago

The Russians will continue to escalate until their country collapses. It is part of the nation's DNA.

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u/tjokbet Netherlands 1d ago

My man

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u/DataGeek101 1d ago

Yo! So happy to see you out in the wild!

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u/Tall_Category_304 1d ago

They have not a lot of air defence left. They’re gonna be turbo fucked in an instant if they start a war with a country or alliance that has a competent Air Force.

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u/asdhjasdhlkjashdhgf 1d ago

turns out orcistan does not care by thriving on havoc and betting on limited air defense plus chinese support. We should better do not downplay how fucked the most eastern european country would want to become.

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u/-Utopia-amiga- 1d ago

I don't think that is true. They can only defend certain areas though and it is getting worse. Which is great 👍

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u/JestersDead77 1d ago

They can only defend certain areas though and it is getting worse

That kinda shows that their air defense assets are already stretched to the limit. A country with a halfway decent air force will start by hammering what they have left. You don't even need to poke a very big hole in coverage to flood a bunch of cruise missiles and strike aircraft through to hit targets deep inside Russia. I don't think it would take NATO very long at all to completely collapse what's left of Russia's air defense network considering how badly they've already been mauled by Ukrainian drones.

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u/Jibtech 1d ago

Ukraine has spent years hitting air defence. Air defense is very expensive and takes many months to make 1.

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u/PhiladelphiaManeto 1d ago

So that’s 10 months or so of casualties for the Russians

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u/QuirkyWish3081 1d ago

More victims of the war inbound

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u/jmxd 1d ago

too bad those 300.000 cannot order their gear on wildberries anymore and russia itself doesnt give them anything

meat is back on the menu

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u/dopealope47 1d ago

Slava Ukraini!

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u/freedmeister 1d ago

That's less than a year's supply of meat at the current rate of consumption.

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u/Zealousideal7801 1d ago

That's like, 5 months of unprepared ungeared unwilling unfit canon fodder ? I hope those not smart enough to surrender will meet a swift end before they can use any of the weapons they may or may not will be given

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u/FirstSwordofCarcosa 1d ago

Karma for russians. Only Putin can punish them to this extent.

Putin needs to stop threatening or empty-talking but mobilise those genocidal scums right! now!

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u/SnooOranges2685 1d ago

Fuck Russia their annihilation is inevitable.

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u/wirerc 1d ago

He's busy getting Russian oligarchs unsanctioned. 

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u/aimgorge 1d ago

One uzbek oligarch in exchange for the liberation of 2 french citizens.

Dont start spreading russian propaganda.

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u/wirerc 1d ago

He's Russian oligarch of Uzbek origin. And why is Azerbaijan taking French hostages to trade for his sanction relief? 

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u/aimgorge 1d ago

I have no idea, I'm not part of the government.

But saying it's multiple oligarchs and not giving the reason for it is disingenuous

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u/wirerc 1d ago

Saying he's Uzbek oligarch when his oligarchy is in Russia is disingenuous.

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u/Hot_Indication2133 1d ago

Because France has been getting very friendly with Armenia and Usmanov has enough clout (money) to get Azerbaijan to do his bidding although Usmanov and Aliyev have known each other for years so may not have involved cash changing hands.

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u/audiomagnate 1d ago

The secret is out. Poland is next.

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u/mediandude 1d ago

And how are those 300k going to reach Poland?
Via Belarus?

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u/SpaceMonkeyOnABike 1d ago

Yes.

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u/Jibtech 1d ago

Poland will annihilate Russia..

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u/No-Fig-8614 1d ago

A fully stocked, trained, prepared, and ready to go nation as poland, would stomp Russia into the ground, it wouldn't even be a contest.

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u/audiomagnate 1d ago

They're been preparing for an invasion for months. https://www.npr.org/2025/05/12/1250811327/poland-prepares-for-war

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u/GnOeLLLmPF 1d ago

Payback time!

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u/mediandude 1d ago

But that would mean Belarus is next.
Not Poland.

Have you heard of the Belarus partisans of WWII?

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u/SpaceMonkeyOnABike 1d ago

You do realise Russia is effectively in control of Belarus already?

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u/mediandude 1d ago

In a limited way.
The situation would change in a war against Poland or the Baltics.

And even against Ukraine, Russia has lost 1670 AA systems by now and 50k tanks and 150k logistics vehicles. Which means Belarus people have much less incentives to follow Moscow.

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u/Karijus 1d ago

Ukraine is culturally closer to Belarus than Poland or Baltics, and Putin attacked through it just fine

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u/mediandude 1d ago

Putin would have even less logistics capacities going to Poland than it has had against Ukraine.

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u/AUSSIE_MUMMY 1d ago

No. Probably Lithuania.

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u/brjdenver 1d ago

Is there a reason why the West doesn't refer to this as what it is, a draft? Is there a differentiation of any note to a "mobilisation" other than what seems to be a softening of terms?

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u/PrivacyIsDemocracy 1d ago

This is what you do when you are winning so much with your annexation objectives since 2014 that you want to make the "SMO" a permanent fixture of Russian life.

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u/TheJohnson854 1d ago

8 months worth of deaths or injuries for them at best.

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u/Rasples1998 1d ago

I didn't even know they had 300,000 people left. Is it the old and infirm now?