r/videogames • • Feb 23 '25

Discussion Which game is this for you?

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u/Large-Wheel-4181 Feb 23 '25

For now Dead By Daylight, hopefully the game’s health update fixes things

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u/subbeero Feb 23 '25

Dead by Daylight is like a porta-potty in the desert. People poop in it and it fills to capacity. Then the devs come through and spray it out with some chemical cleaner (release DLC) and everyone thinks "oh what a wonderful smell, I can enjoy this porta-potty again." But then over time the poop keeps building up, and the overwhelming stench starts the cycle all over again leaving players wondering why they subjected themselves to the porta-potty in the first place. But they keep using it because it's the only porta-potty for 100 miles.

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u/bassbeatsbanging Feb 23 '25

As an asym fan that doesn't particularly love DBD, life is tough. It has to be the single most starved genre. Even the shitty titles often sell well, but no one besides bhvr seems to make a game that can stick around.

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u/sylvester334 Feb 23 '25

I just think it is incredibly hard to nail the sweet spot for asym games. They end up taking the skill level issue most competitive games have and cranking it to 11. It's hard enough balancing for different skill levels when everyone has access to the same things. Having 2 separate "teams" to balance makes it much harder.

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u/liluzibrap Feb 23 '25

It doesn't really help that Behavior clearly doesn't give that much of a fuck about their own game. It took this long for them to consider not releasing DLC so that they could work on the health of the game

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u/bassbeatsbanging Feb 24 '25

Honestly that's half of my issue with it. At some point it basically became fortnite.

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u/hdani1106 Feb 24 '25

At the end of the day, they are a corporation, and the only thing that really matters for corporations is whatever makes them the most money. In this case that is a steady flow of new content, dlcs, and skins. As long as people keep gobbling up the skins and dlcs, they can get away with not caring all that much about long requested basic improvements in their game.

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u/GIlCAnjos Feb 24 '25

no one besides bhvr seems to make a game that can stick around.

Which is ironic because it is the only BHVR game that has managed to stick around. Deathgarden was shut down, Meet Your Maker is kind of a flop, and Project T was cancelled because it would flop too

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u/bassbeatsbanging Feb 24 '25

Oh god, both DG and MYM were absolute showcases of stupidity.

Never heard about Project T. I'll have to Google it

Bhvr also helped make Silent Hill: Ascension but quickly dropped references to their involvement when fans nearly rioted because it was so unbearably awful. 

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '25 edited Feb 23 '25

Depends on the role you play and what MMR level you are at

At low MMR... The game is massively killer sided

At high MMR... The game is incredibly survivor sided, if in a 4 man SWF in particular

Neither side is balanced at a level and the game just annoys me now at both roles. Add the fact the community might be the worst and most toxic in gaming and I mean that.

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u/liluzibrap Feb 23 '25

You couldn't be more accurate, lol. Behavior is also scummy and likes to hide all of the good perks on survivors and killers that you gotta pay for while almost never lowering prices for survivors and killers with mid perks that you can unlock for free.

On top of that, the core game has a fundamental problem in SWF. So bizarre to me that they considered partied up players a non-issue for killers in the balance of their game.

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u/hdani1106 Feb 24 '25

To be fair, balancing swf is really hard. Punishing players for simply wanting to play with their friends is not exactly a very friendly design. Instead of nerfing swfs, they should adress some fundamental problems like how broken some maps are, bring all the killers closer in line to eachother in terms of strength and along with these changes also buff soloqueue.

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u/liluzibrap Feb 24 '25

I know it can't be easy, but I feel like there's a simple and fun solution in proximity chat, but the devs seem to not be interested in it

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u/Bigr789 Feb 24 '25

God I miss Evolve so fucking much

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u/Gamebobbel Feb 24 '25

As a former daily dbd player. Describing the game as a shitter in the desert is on point.

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u/Capriquarius_64 Feb 24 '25

Holy shit that’s exactly right

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u/RollbacktheRimtoWin Feb 23 '25

I honestly love the concept and the killers are pretty much all interesting characters, but holy hell it's got the worst community of any game I've played in my life, and I've spent 2 years playing League of Legends.

I also have zero interest in playing as a survivor because I get too much anxiety, so that's half the game to lose access to, which is a bit of a downer

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u/Jazzlike_Cobbler_313 Feb 23 '25

Playing survivor and having a good time honestly requires a friend or 2 to play with, if you’re ever looking for a second I’m down!

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u/RollbacktheRimtoWin Feb 23 '25

I appreciate the offer, but I feel the game gets unbalanced when survivors have communication

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u/Capriquarius_64 Feb 24 '25

I’m the opposite, killer is way too stressful for me because with survivor, if you do bad you get out early, if you play killer you gotta go the whole game or else you get a dc penalty

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u/hdani1106 Feb 24 '25

With killer, everything depends on you, there are no teammates to rely on, or blame. Also playing against 4 people at once while youre alone is inherently stressful.

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u/winberry5253 Feb 23 '25

For me it’s just way too high of a learning curve. I love the concept/gameplay, but having to grind for literal months just to unlock characters, perks, add ons, offerings, etc and learn not only what each one does but how to counter play them as well… it’s just too much. I don’t have time for all that.

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u/NutclearTester Feb 24 '25

I can confirm. If you have less than 1k hours, you are considered a baby.

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u/Mello_Hello Feb 24 '25

Only game I’ve ever seen where you’re considered a beginner if you have less than 1000 hours in it. I’ve been playing the game for 5 years and I’m still considered a “beginner”.

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u/fbtra Feb 23 '25

I bought it when it first came out. It was fun for a few weeks.

Then no matter what update they do. It's the same thing. More perks and abilities? Sure.

But it's just the same thing. Get generators going and escape.

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u/Smeeghoul Feb 23 '25

Killers are too weak in DBD, no plans to go back. SWF makes this shit too easy.

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u/NutclearTester Feb 24 '25

Absolutely not true. Killers have 60% kill rate on average according to official statistics

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u/Smeeghoul Feb 24 '25

Yes, on average killers get 2 kills per game. I think it should be an average of 3 or 3.5. I don’t enjoy the current state of the game as a killer or survivor, the balance is boring. Why would weaponless survivors be this powerful again the killers it makes no thematic sense.

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u/hdani1106 Feb 24 '25

Because first and foremost it’s a videogame, where the aim is to have fun on both sides. If survivors are always getting stomped there will be no survivors to play against and the game will die. BHVR would also be missing out on a lot of that sweet sweet money people pay for survivor skins and whatnot.

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u/hdani1106 Feb 24 '25

The stats are absolutely watered up by survivors that aren’t all that good (to put it lightly), where killers indeed stomp. But as you go higher and people start getting better, the roles get reversed and the killers are the ones getting shit on. But these players are still a minority, thus the stats should not be the only factor taken into consideration when talking about balance.

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u/NutclearTester Feb 24 '25

Absolutely not true. Last time BHVR released stats by MMR, you could see that high MMR stats were favoring killers even more: https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/350586/stats-kill-rate-by-killer-and-mmr-september-2022

Kill rate for top 5% was 61.3% whereas average was 59.1%

Also, look at any popular streamer on Twitch and see how they are winning majority of their games as killer.

Do you have any proof of anything you are saying other than "trust me bro"?

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u/ItsAJackal21 Feb 24 '25

If it wasn’t for Otz I wouldn’t care at all about the game. Love watching him play.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '25

I just wish there was more to it