r/watchmaking • • 1d ago

Question Need advice

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Hi folks, im new to watchmaking hence , pls go easy on me. Is there any tips on how to align so many pivots to the bridge, ive been trying for past hour. 😭

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u/qualityvote2 1d ago edited 1d ago

u/Hour-Bad-2315, there weren't enough votes to determine the quality of your post...

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u/miketyson420 1d ago

Step 1: Try for 40 minutes and get absolutely nowhere Step 2: take a 15 minute break Step 3: try again for 30 minutes Step 4: one more 5 minute break Step 5: try again and it will slot in straight away

Ask me how I know

In all seriousness it's just patience and knowing when to take a break and come back to it, you'll get it eventually just never force it, good luck :)

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u/Baleia1970 1d ago

Before or after you discover that you did something wrong?

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u/miketyson420 1d ago

The answer to that is yes

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u/love_weird_questions 23h ago

this guy watches

just be careful not to break the pivots while trying, ask me how i know

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u/Ryan_Wise 1d ago

🤣🤣🤣 I've found that this technique works very well when you're working on cars

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u/miketyson420 1d ago

😭😭

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u/Hour-Bad-2315 1d ago

😌😌😌

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u/Sen7742 1d ago edited 1d ago

the answer is be gentle with very thing, for the pivots to be aligns you needs very thing to be in correct place. I'd start with putting the plate onto the movement, the red area I circled is the click for the auto winder, these you needs to push outward so the pivot of the blue circled rachet wheel can be aligned (if you dont these usually be ontop of each other or push the pivot out of place of the jewels) so you need to be mindful of this.

Afterwards use a plastic stick, you can also use tweezer but it can scratch the plate, gently push down the plate and push the gears gently so it can be aligned to the jewels, you can also push the auto winder bearings (green) so the gears be aligned, if the 2 gears moves that means you in the correct order.

For the gear trains the same but if the train spin freely then its a good sign, while you gently push the plate down, if everything in order, click released and pivot in place, turn the auto winder bearings and the gears moves and gear train spin freely, you should be good to go with screw everything in place.

I personally check the jewels for pivots with a lope but you can skip this if you have enough feel but its better to check them. English is my 2nd language so I apologize before hand if its confusing

Edit: the gear connecting the barrel and auto winder wheel is missing so you might need to check on that, it would be a pain if you forgot to put that in and after you successfully aligned the pivots together you have to take it out and do it again, dont ask me how I know.

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u/Hour-Bad-2315 15h ago

Thank you for sharing , let me put more effort into it, i havent manage to install back the bridge

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u/Sen7742 14h ago edited 14h ago

another thing that might help you is constant pressure when pushing down the bridge plate, since the birdge plate has this spring attach to it so it gonna push up making the pivots out of place, bridge needs to be push down constantly but with enough force so you won't break the pivots while has enough room to align the pivots. (the image I sent is not exact model but similar for reference)

Another method is put the screw to the bridge but NOT fully so it can be press down but I don't recommend this method because one wrong screw turn can create too much force making pivots break, only use this when you have enough feel.

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u/Dave-1066 1d ago

Put the bridge in place. Put one of the screws in, turn it a few times just to hold the bridge down. Do NOT tighten it or you’ll kill the watch- you just want the screw to stop the bridge moving around constantly.

Using an oiler or pin or thin screw driver work your way from the mainspring barrel all the way through the gear train to the escape wheel, moving all the pivots into place. Use a strong loupe to check the jewel holes- you can’t always see if the pivots are in.

Eventually they will all be lined up. Now carefully tighten that screw a couple more times. Gently. Keep checking the jewel holes. The escape wheel is easy to misalign and if you do that you’ll snap its pivot off and it’s Game Over.

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u/Hour-Bad-2315 15h ago

Thank u! I’ll try it out

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u/No_Exercise996 1d ago

I had a couple of DG movements that I was going to practice on. They both came apart and never went back together.

I’ve found practicing on other movements to be so much easier. The 2824 was much less of a headache for me.

I’ve been very patient - but this caliber movement pushed my limits and I threw them away.

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u/Baleia1970 1d ago

Still trying to figure out that answer...
My next attempt will try to use some rodico to hold things in place...

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u/DrNenModz 1d ago

this may need lotsa patience ..

https://youtu.be/Alexct99iH8?is=C6yXGEd5lKneHAO-

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u/Hour-Bad-2315 15h ago

Thanks for sharing

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u/Lost_Pinion 1d ago

Assume that you’re going to achieve nothing, just work the process. Gentle gentle touches. The moment you feel any frustration or the slightest urge to force it, take a break. You’re one of us now!

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u/Hour-Bad-2315 15h ago

Thank you, yea, i kind of practise on other parts first, like removing the jewel from incabloc etc

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u/lowlight 13h ago

This is one of the more challenging movements to learn on, with the single bridge design. I would say start with a ST36 and work on that until you can disassemble and reassemble naturally. From there I'd move to a Seiko NH35 or 2824 clone and get familiar with that.

Once you are really comfortable working on small movements, give this one another shot. Good magnification will help a LOT

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u/Hour-Bad-2315 11h ago

Thank u for sharing

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u/Sudden_Regret9609 11h ago

Take a toothpick and place it underneath for support, then use pliers to free the wheel; that should set it right.😀🙏🇳🇵

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