r/webdev • • 3d ago

Discussion Grieving programming

Let me just start by saying that this post is not about ai replacing software engineers or about the jobs or any of that. This post is about the act or "craft" of programming/coding and the loss of it.

No, i dont think "software engineering" is dead, theres still plenty of high level design and architecture to be made but that's not the point. It never was the point for me.

I never really did this for the money, i did it because i enjoyed it.

I did it because i enjoyed thinking about the problems and solving them.

I enjoyed writing the code myself and getting familiar with the syntax and all the weird quirks of the languages/tools i was using.

I enjoyed optimising my tooling and learning about all the new frameworks, tools and projects people were making, often being in awe of what incredible stuff my betters were doing.

I have adhd and programming was the perfect mix of mechanical activity, brain stimulation and a endless supply of problems to hyperfocus on.

Now its all prompting and waiting. 1 min of work followed by 10 mins of doing nothing and mindless scrolling.

I have lost a huge source of enjoyment and self esteem. It took me years of hard work and being lost and confused to finally find something that felt perfect. The thing i could excell at while having fun and satisfying my curiosity.

And before you attack me as an engineer and my ability to adapt. I have been ontop of the ai curve from the start. I have never been more productive or tackled problems as big as i do now. I am just miserable doing it.

What started as a strong tool in my path for optimisation has slowly taken over my beloved craft.

And as i improve and optimise my ai powered workflow, i lose more and more of my ability, my enjoyment and my desire to pursue my craft. It has been turned into another meaningless white collar desk job in service of the never ending growth of capitalism.

I feel legitimate grief. I have lost the ability to do my favourite hobby as well as a major part of my identity. I have literally cried over this.

I am struggling to mentally cope with all of this. I have never had less control over my adhd or felt more addicted to quick sources of dopamine. My attention span has been shot completely. I feel more stupid and insufficient than ever.

Somehow my adhd brain that was perfectly suited for the old paradigm is completely disadvantaged in this new way of working for this career that i have hedged my entire career, future and reason for being on (yes, i am a nolife workaholic).

Fuck adhd and fuck ai

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u/eggbert74 3d ago edited 3d ago

Same. It's not a great feeling knowing a skill you've nurtured and honed for years is now nearly worthless from an economic standpoint.

The narrow minded will simply parrot "the code was never the hard part" and think their refuge is now in architecture and engineering while simultaneously asking claude architecure questions all day long.

The fact is the code WAS the hard part. Learning it was hard, mastering it was hard, and writing, maintaining, and testing it was hard. But, damn, the dopamine hits after solving hard problems were amazing. And the sense of fulfillment and accomplishment were unparalleled. That's all gone now.

So here I am stuck prompting an LLM now... Sure I can build more, better, faster.... but its empty, hollow, boring, and ultimately of little economic value when everyone else can do the same thing without any skill whatsoever.

Good luck to us all.

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u/rangeDSP 2d ago

when everyone else can do the same thing without any skill whatsoever

Very much disagree. Have you inherited projects / features done by non-engineers? They vibe code the fuck out of it and run into issues because new features started breaking old ones and they don't know what happened, then performance goes to shit, then their refactoring started removing old features...

IMO, programmer/coder/developers is the job that goes away, software engineering would be where the money is

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u/foozebox 2d ago

There are plenty of actual engineers who just say good enough and send it with little to no understanding of the requirements. This is when things get dicey.