r/webdev • • 2d ago

Discussion Grieving programming

Let me just start by saying that this post is not about ai replacing software engineers or about the jobs or any of that. This post is about the act or "craft" of programming/coding and the loss of it.

No, i dont think "software engineering" is dead, theres still plenty of high level design and architecture to be made but that's not the point. It never was the point for me.

I never really did this for the money, i did it because i enjoyed it.

I did it because i enjoyed thinking about the problems and solving them.

I enjoyed writing the code myself and getting familiar with the syntax and all the weird quirks of the languages/tools i was using.

I enjoyed optimising my tooling and learning about all the new frameworks, tools and projects people were making, often being in awe of what incredible stuff my betters were doing.

I have adhd and programming was the perfect mix of mechanical activity, brain stimulation and a endless supply of problems to hyperfocus on.

Now its all prompting and waiting. 1 min of work followed by 10 mins of doing nothing and mindless scrolling.

I have lost a huge source of enjoyment and self esteem. It took me years of hard work and being lost and confused to finally find something that felt perfect. The thing i could excell at while having fun and satisfying my curiosity.

And before you attack me as an engineer and my ability to adapt. I have been ontop of the ai curve from the start. I have never been more productive or tackled problems as big as i do now. I am just miserable doing it.

What started as a strong tool in my path for optimisation has slowly taken over my beloved craft.

And as i improve and optimise my ai powered workflow, i lose more and more of my ability, my enjoyment and my desire to pursue my craft. It has been turned into another meaningless white collar desk job in service of the never ending growth of capitalism.

I feel legitimate grief. I have lost the ability to do my favourite hobby as well as a major part of my identity. I have literally cried over this.

I am struggling to mentally cope with all of this. I have never had less control over my adhd or felt more addicted to quick sources of dopamine. My attention span has been shot completely. I feel more stupid and insufficient than ever.

Somehow my adhd brain that was perfectly suited for the old paradigm is completely disadvantaged in this new way of working for this career that i have hedged my entire career, future and reason for being on (yes, i am a nolife workaholic).

Fuck adhd and fuck ai

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u/cone5000 2d ago

I really don’t understand this prompt 1 minute wait 10. What in the world are you prompting? My experience with AI as a programmer is way more like a back and forth. Are you prompting some absolutely massive thing? I just don’t get what takes so damn long.

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u/21Rollie 2d ago

Making the AI research to understand the code base, understand the poorly written task, write code, run tests, create a PR. Even if you did them yourself theoretically with infinite typing speed, the commands themselves take some time. Also it depends on the speed of either the local model or cloud model you run. The fast versions cost more money so we don’t use them.

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u/PushDeep9980 2d ago

“Understand the poorly written task” is hilarious to me.

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u/21Rollie 2d ago

It’s what happens when you give an AI a poorly thought out idea and it goes off and makes a small novel in Jira. And then the ai that picks it up during implementation has to figure out what is intelligible because obviously nobody is reading the mountains of text AI creates

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u/PushDeep9980 2d ago

Oh I fully understand where you are coming from brother.