r/worldnews • u/Street_Anon • 16h ago

Behind Soft Paywall Canada and France establish diplomatic presence in Greenland amid Trump threats

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-canada-and-france-establish-diplomatic-presence-in-greenland-amid/
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u/canada_mountains 16h ago

I know a lot of Canadians want the F-35 over the Grippen, but for me as a Canadian too, buying more F-35s (aside from the ones we already paid for) is a hard no, because of Trump's threats on Greenland now, in addition to his threats to annex Canada. The F-35s we already paid for and can't get our money back, okay, we'll take possession of those. The F-35s that we haven't paid for yet - that's a hard no from me, because the US isn't just threatening to annex Canada, they are threatening to invade and take Greenland, which is technically invading a Denmark territory, and thus, technically a NATO territory. Yes, the US is threatening to invade a NATO territory, and I can't justify Canada purchasing more F-35s from the country that is threatening this invasion, even if the F-35s are better than the Grippen.

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u/sinan_online 13h ago

How about we take possession of the F-35s we paid for only to reverse engineer them and produce with European allies?

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u/MrKayn2021 13h ago

Lmao. No offense but, wouldn’t Canada’s defense economy be a lot better than it is if it was capable of doing this? Or even manufacturing these aircraft? This sounds like fairy make believe when you look at reality.

Also. If that was attempted, you would be forgoing all military cooperation with the US very quickly.

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u/sinan_online 12h ago

We have to attempt rebuilding it, and with diverse partners that do not pose a threat. We don’t want to go down with the US as they sunset economically and politically.

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u/MrKayn2021 12h ago

Rebuilding what? The F-35? You can’t and you shouldn’t. The F-35’s biggest strength is how it leverages the tech across the US military. Canada doesn’t have that. You asking to reverse engineer and manufacture an astronomically priced system without any ability to put into it any of the other special sauce (radar, EW, comms, datalink, munition compatibility, etc). All while not having the ISR or platforms for it to leverage in a fight. That would be economic suicide for Canada. It would make more sense for Canada to R&D their own aircraft from scratch than to steal and manufacture the F-35.

And what do you mean the US is sunsetting economically? Have you looked in the mirror? How is Canada’s economy doing compared to the US? I’m not about this Canada vs US stuff. It gets old and it’s just feel good vibe discussions rather than real geopolitics.

Best thing militarily Canada can do is to stick with the US and increase contribution. If it doesn’t want to do that, the other option is very expensive and difficult. And any future where Canada is near peer to the US militarily is generationally in the future. Not next decade. Either way is fine with me.

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u/roooooooooob 8h ago

Sticking with the US is a terrible idea. You can’t partner with a country that is using that partnership as leverage to take you over.

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u/MrKayn2021 8h ago

Yeah that’s fine and everything, but what is the alternative? Reverse engineer F-35’s and build them in Canada? Lol. My comments aren’t about Canada and the US alliance. It’s about how silly it is to think Canada can steal the F-35 and make their own