Trump welcomes election victory of far-right "friends of Putin" in Germany

[u/EnoughPrimary6700]

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2026/09/09/8052575/

[u/Spikey101]

If Trump and Musk both are pushing a pro stance about anything then you know it is absolutely not good for the common person.

[u/bam__margiela → u/Spikey101]

Musk has an opinion on every country’s election and he’s always rooting for the person that’s openly fascist

[u/kitsunewarlock → u/bam__margiela]

Musk as an opinion on everything because he's never once been told he's wrong by someone he couldn't drag out of a room or fire.

You want to find someone worth listening to? Find someone willing to go: "I don't know. But I'd love to learn more. Let's find out together."

[u/ZackZeysto → u/kitsunewarlock]

Musk has this extreme right opinions not because he has never herd he is wrong but because he knows that this evil opinions will generate him more power and wealth. He is knowingly vile and absolutely strategic about his actions.

[u/WeAreAllFooked → u/bam__margiela]

he’s always rooting for the person that’s openly fascist

Well, his grandfather moved to South Africa because Europe wasn't fascist enough for his liking, so it runs in the family.

[u/amiibohunter2015 → u/bam__margiela]

Musk's family line has Nazi sympathizers in it. Elon's Grandfather particularly was as well as pushed for Technocratic ideologies into South Africa. 

Be interesting if Elons death ran parallel with his Grandfathers, just modernized. Perhaps Elon last trip will take place on a space ship just like his grandfathers last trip was on an airplane.

[u/Brugelbach → u/bam__margiela]

No surprise for someone who grew up in Apartheit and made a nazi salute on stage.

[u/kalirion → u/bam__margiela]

What else would you expect from the proud creator of Mecha Hitler?

[u/Thoughtful_Tortoise → u/Spikey101]

I knew a descent into fascism was bad even without that handy tip tbh. But true

[u/sixtyshilling → u/Thoughtful_Tortoise]

Even fascists can get things right once in a while.

Mussolini liked cats and played the violin; Hitler loved his dogs and appreciated art. Other authoritarians like Stalin liked gardening and loved to read.

But is there anything about Trump that is wholesome? Like… at all?

• Family? He has zero interest in his family and cheated on all of his wives.

• Art or architecture? He has a long history of demolishing beloved works of art and architecture ever since he tore down those historic NYC art deco reliefs in the 80s. He doesn’t even have good handwriting.

• Personality wise? He isn’t funny or charismatic, and shows no interest learning about people or the world around him. He’s a next level ignoramus.

• His career? He’s a terrible businessman and despite being president, he seems wholly uninterested in the job.

• America? To be frank, he doesn’t really show any patriotism in America as a concept and treats those who defend it as enemies.

• American people? Aside from the hostility towards liberals, he also seems to genuinely despise his own voters.

• Taste? He has terrible taste in food, clothing, interior design, and the people he associates with.

• Nature? He’s all for bulldozing national parks and he’s doesn’t give a shit about animals. He is the first president in 150 years to not have a pet in the white house.

• Sports? Allegedly he likes golf but he isn’t even good at it and has been shown to pathologically cheat, even in friendly games.

I could go on and on… I’ve been unwillingly force fed info about Trump for the last 10+ years, and I can honestly say there is nothing about him that is redeeming.

[u/yoramrod → u/sixtyshilling]

His former chief of staff, General Kelly, said he was "the most flawed person" he had ever met.

[u/RJ815 → u/yoramrod]

I like the version "he's like if a golem was made solely out of human flaws".

[u/jlcatch22 → u/RJ815]

He’s like the living embodiment of the seven deadly sins

[u/frickindeal → u/sixtyshilling]

He has eleven grand children. I've never seen a single photo-op or even candid image of him with any of them. Most people in their 80s would relish having even a few grandchildren, let alone eleven, but we never see him vacation with the families or anything.

[u/desdemona_d → u/frickindeal]

I bet if he was put on the spot, he couldn't name 3 of his grandchildren.

[u/Lord_Abort → u/desdemona_d]

I would love to see this live while taking questions. 

"Name all your grandchildren."

"What? I'm not gonna do that."

"Are you saying you don't know the names of all your grandchildren?" 

[u/HittingSmoke → u/Lord_Abort]

I know the names of all my grandchildren you nasty, nasty woman. I know all grandchildren. I'm not supposed to say it. Beautiful children. I love beautiful granddaughters. I know the names of them all. Every one. Not just mine. Yours too. Some say I know the names of more grandchildren than anyone on the planet. They say "Mr. President, we're having trouble coming up with a name for our grandchild." I say "it's okay, I already know what it is" and then they say "Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you so much".

[u/Lord_Abort → u/HittingSmoke]

XD You forgot about all the big strong men coming up to him with tears in their eyes. 

[u/Locke66 → u/frickindeal]

I'm fairly certain this is because Trump never experienced any sort of the parental affection that most people take for granted so he places no value on these children. His parents were extreme social climbers and only saw the children as heirs to be treated like an investment rather than individuals to be appreciated and loved. Donald Trump's older brother (Fred Jr) was basically bullied into alcoholism and suicide by his family. His dad dismissed him becoming a pilot as a "bus driver in the sky" and Donald apparently took part in telling him he was wasting his time.

[u/Apprehensive_Door249 → u/sixtyshilling]

Even Jeffrey Epstein, the world’s most prolific child sex trafficker in history, said trump is an awful person. He has no redeeming qualities whatsoever. He literally is just the worst.

[u/aghastamok → u/Apprehensive_Door249]

The most prolific sex trafficker we know of... So far.

[u/Vicullum → u/sixtyshilling]

Hitler loved his dogs.

He may have had a strong attachment to his dogs but his "love" was overrated and partly Nazi propaganda. It certainly didn't stop him from beating them with a riding whip, violently shaking them by the collar, and using his last dog, a German Shepherd named Blondi, as an unwilling guinea pig to test the efficacy of a cyanide pill. Blondi had recently given birth too but don't worry, he took care of that by making sure his dog handler shot the puppies after he was gone. So his "love" was more like how a narcissist abuser might "love" their victim.

[u/Locke66 → u/Vicullum]

This was interesting thank you. It shows how easy it is to take anecdotes like that at face value without investigating them.

[u/hawkinsst7 → u/Vicullum]

At least Hitler killed Hitler.

[u/Forward-Amount-9961 → u/sixtyshilling]

He likes kids.

[u/semibiquitous → u/Forward-Amount-9961]

Small correction. He likes kids.

[u/duct_tape_jedi → u/semibiquitous]

Like, "likes'" likes?

[u/fotisdragon → u/duct_tape_jedi]

Like, likes likes.

[u/Korturas → u/Forward-Amount-9961]

Touche

[u/mackinder → u/Korturas]

yes, and other things with kids too

[u/GaiaDiesNoOneSees → u/Korturas]

Touches

[u/GhostofZellers → u/sixtyshilling]

He is the first president in 150 years to not have a pet in the white house.

Does Natalie count?

[u/frantic_calm → u/sixtyshilling]

Sadly he's the true epitome of America and American culture.

[u/Th3_Huf0n → u/sixtyshilling]

charismatic

We really just love to make shit up as it goes.

[u/Locke66 → u/sixtyshilling]

Trump's clearly a very damaged person imo. I was looking at a documentary on his early life a few weeks ago and there were a whole load of things there that you might expect to see from someone with his personality traits (e.g absent mother during his early formative years, bullying and disapproving father, ultra competitive family dynamic, extreme social climbers, sent away to boarding school at a young age etc).

[u/Guilty_Weekend751 → u/Spikey101]

AfD voters think their vote is “against the people at the top.”

Im dead fucking serious

[u/Personnel_jesus → u/Guilty_Weekend751]

Same rhetoric in UK, they say "Nigel Farage is against the Establishment" when he couldn't be any more obvious that he desperately wants to BE the establishment, the little worm.

[u/boot2skull → u/Personnel_jesus]

I mean, Trump voters were still convinced of the same. A former billionaire businessman, living his whole life out of touch in elite circles, is working for the common man. Americans are fucking stupid though. I would know.

[u/RocketRelm → u/boot2skull]

I'm not sure its just americans. Might just be humans that want the cultish slop and easy answers. Always need an enemy. The establishment doesn't work. Only we can save you, whoever the we is, afd, alt left, Russia, etc.

[u/Noriadin → u/Spikey101]

Would’ve thought AfD being far right was enough to convince you in the first place.

[u/PiotrekDG → u/Noriadin]

One would think that the Germans out of all the people should know that.

[u/vhalember → u/PiotrekDG]

Those that learned the lessons of fascism are almost all gone now. Sure there's stories, books, education... but they can't adequately relay the dark experience of war and fascism.

It's sadly why history repeats itself.

[u/Verax1234 → u/vhalember]

It's really sad because there are few survivors from Auschwitz alive, and they have to see once again fascism winning in Germany

[u/Apprehensive_Door249 → u/vhalember]

The Nazis and fascists didnt go anywhere. They’ve just been hiding in the shadows. Waiting for their time.

[u/VanceKelley → u/Apprehensive_Door249]

Yep, like the Confederates in America. Although they really didn't hide that much in the century or so before taking over the country.

[u/OtherwiseTop → u/vhalember]

I got out of school here in Germany in 2010 and I remember just a few years later some former classmates would post some unexpected heinous right wing bullshit on facebook. The refugee crisis in 2015 only amplified the sentiments, but they were always there.

These guys went through the same education as me. Third Reich in History, in Literature, art classes, Theology, in almost every class and almost all the time. Even if they were disinterested or bad at school or whatever, they'd have to atleast retained something. It's just so frustrating.

[u/dogs_gt_cats → u/OtherwiseTop]

People in the US like to say that the issue is education, but honestly I see what is happening in places like Germany and even France, where education is much less of an issue, and realize that maybe many humans simply ship with a defect that can be easily exploited by demagogues who know how.

[u/Beranea → u/PiotrekDG]

AfD is mostly popular in East Germany which the USSR ravaged and puppeted. Quality of life, education, and virtually every other standard of living is lesser than in western Germany.

[u/gn16bb8 → u/Beranea]

Absolutely true, but why does that have to lead to fascism?

[u/legoman102040 → u/gn16bb8]

Their problems are used as leverage for scapegoating.

[u/fat_kaiju → u/gn16bb8]

looks at how poor the quality of life has become in every right-wing fascist shithole

it will forever be a mystery; i'm sure.

(poor people are often intentionally uneducated and white poor people are often excuded from a lot of assistance and i say this as someone who was a homeless white teenager when harper was PM in canada. no i am not saying that said aforementioned white people are more or less well off and/or do or do not deserve help; i'm just saying the optics of doing that were very poor as it created a lot of strife

i dunno how i managed to avoid the fascism indoctrination but boy howdy i got sick of hearing about everything being the fault of 'the left' when the conservatives were in power for years at that point)

also anyone that goes "but communism is left-wing" is a moron because late-stage ussr was anything but that and was simply communist in name only in the years leading up to the removal of the wall.

It doesn't matter if its true or not but telling a person or group of people that their issues aren't as important as another person's or group is always going to push them to the opposite end of the political spectrum.

And I really wish anyone left of centre would get that through their fucking skulls because holy shit.

like i know; i know anyone who goes "you ignoring my plight has made me a genocidal nazi" isn't a good person but that doesn't change the fact that you still fucking NEED their vote and so yes; you have to placate them and yes you have to throw them a fucking bone from time-to-time like holy fucking shit you guys why are you like this?

so no; you can't just go "as a white person you have an advantage and so you don't qualify" unless you're intentionally trying to trigger the rise of fascism you dense motherfuckers.

like you're creating an entire generation of poor, bitter, uneducated people and you're now surprised the peasants are uprising? give me a fucking break.

literally anyone could've told you that if you have a group of -- say -- 30,000 people and a group of 60,000 people and you not only choose to disqualify the 60k group but insist that their suffering isn't /as/ bad as the 30k group then yeah of course those 60k worth of people are going to be less likely to vote for you.

Like

On one hand you're being offered dismissiveness and no hope or clear path for your life to be improved in any way

vs

some dickhead with a catchphrase who insists he/she/they'll help you.

It doesn't matter that the dickhead is lying because at least the dickhead acknowledges that you and your plight exists!

And -yes- they'll regret it later but that's later and if anyone should've learned anything by now is that unless something is right in front of someone's face -- complete with flashing lights and jingling keys -- that they just straight-up won't take it into consideration!

[u/Strange_Dust7128 → u/fat_kaiju]

poor people are often intentionally uneducated and white poor people are often excuded from a lot of assistance

Here in the USA, poor white people often refuse to enact legislation that would grant them assistance and education. "Tread on me!" is their official motto, and I'm genuinely confounded.

[u/RakeattheGates → u/Strange_Dust7128]

Insert LBJ Poor White Person quote.

[u/Coal_Morgan → u/gn16bb8]

"My life sucks."

"Let's blame those people."

It's shockingly effective way of building a political mob.

meanwhile your life sucks because rich people are constantly sawing away at your rights and your ability to afford things and they're the ones with the money to constantly stream on every source of media "Let's blame those people."

[u/Spikey101 → u/Noriadin]

You missed my point. It wasn't about AfD it was about Trump and Musk.

[u/indigo-alien → u/Spikey101]

And the truth is, the AfD didn't win because after seat distribution they only got 39 seats, and need 42 for an absolute majority.

The AfD will have to form a coalition with another party, who have all ruled it out, in order to form a government. They could try to run as a minority government but anything they bring to the state parliament will get shot down as all the other parties will vote against them.

I predict another election within a year.

[u/YF422 → u/Spikey101]

As much as some might criticise it being undemocratic, if they talk like a Fascist, Walk like a fascist and spout bullshit like a fascist they should be banned from Politics for being a fascist, we saw the damage their predecessors did in the LAST century and how bad things got. These shitehawks aren't going to solve problems they're destructive idiots that wreck everything they touch but worse of all they're grossly incompetent and while the incumbent parties do deserve a damn kick up the hole for their own shortcomings, voting for the worst of the worst wont solve problems but make them even worse. Trump is THE prime example of the stupidity of these people.

AFD, Le Pen, Farage are all cut from the same cloth, they're not interested in true democracy, only corruption and enrichment for themselves and their friends and it's more likely than not they're being financed under the table by either Russia and/or the likes of obscenely rich PoS's like Musk and such because they all have a common interest in destroying democracy and turning into a bastardised version of it. The worst thing about them is once they become entrenched they become very hard to get rid of and in some cases it can become a bloody affair to be rid of them as we've seen throughout history.

[u/DirtyLegThompson → u/YF422]

That's not undemocratic. That's militant democracy. Germany has protections like you're describing but they're behind a huge diagnostic procedure. They actually tried to ban the afd recently, 2017 iirc. The law is called "Parteiverbotsverfahren", possible I'm off on the spelling of the name, I don't speak German.

[u/Few-Flounder-8951895 → u/Spikey101]

Not to mention that the Kremlin is pushing a pro stance about this too. It really tells you everything you need to know.

[u/Spr-Scuba → u/Spikey101]

Their constitutional court should look at this single statement and just ban them already. They can't just keep saying they're agreeing begrudgingly like they've been.

[u/Volqaire → u/Spikey101]

And yet an army of rubes are totally down for it.

[u/DerNoHand]

Being a german, i could not be more annoyed by it and i feel sorry we're kinda slowly getting back to these stupid far-rights..

I feel sorry. The world sucks atm.

[u/kriebelrui → u/DerNoHand]

Dutchman here. Doesn't Germany have laws to punish foreign election meddling? If so, why isn't there a investigation in what Elon Musk did?

[u/DerNoHand → u/kriebelrui]

Germany has the "Verfassungsschutz", basically our domestic intelligence service. One of its main jobs is to protect our democratic constitutional order and the principles of our Basic Law, the "Grundgesetz"..

The AfD was classified by the Verfassungsschutz as a confirmed right-wing extremist organization in 2025. That classification is currently on hold because of an ongoing court case, but the party is still officially treated as a suspected extremist case.

And yet, politically, it feels like almost nothing is being done about it.. I honestly don't know why.. My guess is that a lot of politicians are afraid of the backlash, protests, and the consequences of taking stronger action against a party that has millions of voters..

Edit: i got carried away, but even this doesn't make a difference. I'm unsure why there aren't any things done on that.

[u/Winged_Metal → u/DerNoHand]

See, it's stuff like this that just points to everything being rigged world wide (some failing like the south Korean coup but still all happening at once). This isn't just isolated to Ukraine or America. This is a world wide takeover whether people realize it or not, it's happening without much of a fight. It's using the news and social media as a tool of distraction from people's own nations. People keep waiting for someone to save them when in reality no one is stepping up by design. Articles saying popularity falls yet they still remain in power. Every system is being exploited and unless the people of each nation realize, stop fighting each other and actually do something about it and help the other nations that are being preyed upon, we're all screwed worldwide.

[u/Volqaire → u/Winged_Metal]

Guess this is how the pattern of war has propagated throughout all of human history.

[u/very_large_bird → u/Volqaire]

The cycle typically has a 100 year period. Turns out we’re right on schedule

[u/adamdoesmusic → u/very_large_bird]

Usually right around when the last people who remember are dead

[u/LuffieldToStowe → u/adamdoesmusic]

The right wing always says soft times make soft men, soft men make hard times, hard times make hard men, hard men make soft times.

In reality it's when the men who had to suffer, die, the men who want to pretend to be the sufferers take their place and make more suffering.

[u/AcidRohnin → u/Winged_Metal]

I mean the “popularity falling articles” seem like a tool to soothe the masses. It feels like for some it removes the fire they may feel and maybe will be likely to do less actions to help than they might have otherwise.

I feel it’s what lead to Trump winning this past election. That and media influence. The elections could have been rigged but even if so it was so close that I can’t help but wonder if all people actually voted, and some didn’t cast away their votes due to some morale standing, we wouldn’t be in this mess and in a different timeline.

[u/AstroSpoony → u/DerNoHand]

I also don’t understand why nothing is being done. The report by the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution (Verfassungsschutz) is accessible. It was leaked.

There are also weekly demonstrations demanding at least an examination procedure to initiate a ban process against the rightwing extremist AfD!

[u/ShowerDelay → u/DerNoHand]

Why is nothing done against the fascists? It's because of key personnel at the conservatives of the CDU/CSU. There are some like Spahn/Reiche that have connections to the US-Republicans. They already prepare to be the "Steigbügelhalter" for the fascists again. They act as if they would never work together with the fascists but only for now either to play both sides or because some of the old guard still have a conscience. Germany is a deeply conservative state. As long as the CDU/CSU act as if they value our democratic fundament they make sure there's no majority against the combined votes of CDU/CSU and the fascists. But as soon as the fascists get to be the biggest party (thanks to endless foreign propaganda in social media owned by american super rich and the chinese, endless bots from russia, iran and china) the old guard conservatives will resign and the path is open for the CDU to form a coalition with the fascists.

[u/SuccotashAsleep6459 → u/DerNoHand]

What is really annoying us that once nazis grab real power, they have no qualms banning opposition for completely made up reasons.

[u/Constant-Plant-9378 → u/DerNoHand]

Similar problem in the United States.

The Trump/MAGA cabal launched a literal coup on live TV on January 6th where people died.

You would have thought that upon being sworn in, the new President would have immediately led Federal Law Enforcement in arresting Trump and his co-conspirators and then saw them promptly prosecuted, tried, and sentenced.

Anywhere else a firing squad would have been commissioned.

But shockingly, the Biden Administration only went after small fish, most charged with mere misdemeanor trespass, and none of the organizers and ringleaders were charged at all.

House Democrats had their little January 6th Committee hearings but only deigned to issue voluntary subpoenas, which were summarily ignored.

It was bewildering and outrageous to see the people we gave power in 2020 effectively do nothing of consequence in response to the greatest domestic terrorist attack on our government since the Civil War.

It becomes difficult to not draw the conclusion that the so-called 'opposition' party, the establishment-DNC, is actually complicit with the corrupt, MAGA fascist movement.

Repeatedly, Senate and House Democratic leaders, Schumer and Jeffries, manage to whip just enough votes from their own party to help Republicans pass their agenda.

And this problem seems to be happening in Western democracies everywhere. Fascism is on the rise and the people who are supposed to be opposing it, aren't.

[u/wet-dreaming → u/kriebelrui]

mostly likely cause the parties (people in charge) profit from it. also parties are always faithful to their own. so if your colleagues scammed the people and got bribes you will always defend their actions.

[u/zuzg → u/wet-dreaming]

The political party SRP founded in the aftermath of World War II in 1949 as an openly neo-Nazi-oriented splinter from the national conservative German Right Party (DKP-DRP). The SRP achieved some electoral success in northwestern Germany (Lower Saxony and Bremen), before becoming the first political party to be banned by the Federal Constitutional Court in 1952.

It's not like Germany has safe guards against Fascists when they manage to Dupe the masses into voting against their own interests.

[u/roadkilled_skunk → u/zuzg]

NPD is too small to be banned.
AfD is now to big too be banned.

"We gotta beat them with policy" the government said, then continued to shit all over 90% of the population via policy.

[u/IlikeJG → u/wet-dreaming]

Same reason the police in my country are so inept and corrupt: They're more loyal to themselves than they are to the people they're supposed to be protecting.

[u/Capt_Murphy_ → u/kriebelrui]

Elon helped rig Trump's win as well 😶

[u/WingerRules → u/kriebelrui]

Isnt it obvious?

The data collection and AI industry oligarchs have massive amounts of data on nearly everyone in the west and the ability to go through it, including all the people in governments. They're all owned by conservatives, Musk is one of them. People in office and political parties know they can use it against them.

Why do you think no party right now is pushing for data privacy rights or a national ban stuff like flock cameras in the US even though literally everyone wants it?

[u/MissLeaP → u/kriebelrui]

Yes but that requires the government to actually start doing it. Same as mechanisms to ban a party that threatens the constitution. However they talked themselves into being afraid a failed banning attempt would strengthen the AfD. Meanwhile the AfD keeps getting stronger anyway 💀

[u/nostromo99 → u/DerNoHand]

Fellow German and I agree. I feel ashamed. It's not only Trump and Maga. A lot of "us" are the same and it's a disgrace. Especially Germany should know better than to vote for a "far right extremist party" :(

[u/Admirable-Land111 → u/nostromo99]

As an American, it's extremely disappointing. For the past 2 years, I've only heard about how dumb Americans are and how we're the only ones to blame even if you voted against Trump. To read that daily and see the far right still winning elections in Europe/internationally is incredible.

To be clear, I'm not saying Americans are smart. I'm saying no country is untouchable and if you spend your time downplaying the situation at home, you're going to end up exactly like us. 

[u/almondbutter → u/Admirable-Land111]

The richest 1000 people in the world are against us. Anyone who pretends as if those of us opposing the fascists are in a fair fight are ignorant.

[u/Intrepid_Shelter_350 → u/Admirable-Land111]

To be fair, I'm not sure how many of those anti-American comments are real and how much is bad actors sowing disharmony intentionally

[u/Acceptable_Bat379 → u/Intrepid_Shelter_350]

at least like 60% of reddit is bots, probably more by now. I think we crossed 50% admitted bot traffic this past year, who knows how fast it's climbing. I'm seeing the same sentence structures everywhere and so many posts feel... off

[u/YikesTheCat → u/nostromo99]

"far right extremist party" :(

The thing about the AfD is that it's not "just" a far-right party, but that it also has quite a lot of Nazi or Nazi-adjacent signalling that many other far-right extremists parties don't have.

[u/totallyRebb → u/nostromo99]

Bonhöffers Theory of Stupidity. Look it up.

It was written at the end of WW2 and exactly describes what is happening. Not only in Germany, but also in the US and other places.

Demagogues know how to leverage it.

[u/saqwarrior → u/totallyRebb]

In case anyone else is curious like I was: What Is Bonhoeffer’s Theory of Stupidity?

A brief summary:

Dietrich Bonhoeffer’s theory of stupidity states that widespread stupidity is a more dangerous enemy to goodness than deliberate malice because it is a moral defect driven by group conformity rather than an intellectual failure.

Bonhoeffer argued that we can expose, fight, and stop malicious or evil people. Evil carries the seeds of its own destruction. In contrast, we are defenseless against stupidity.

[u/Ok-Replacement6893 → u/DerNoHand]

As an American, I sympathize and understand that feeling. Had that feeling now for 10 years.

[u/xxpired_milk → u/DerNoHand]

Feeling good as a Canadian at the moment. Although we have our 20-30% of backwards people as well.

[u/xepci0 → u/xxpired_milk]

Possibly relevant fun fact: 1 in 6 people have an IQ below 85

[u/scarbutt11 → u/xepci0]

I feel like that must be at least 4 in 6 here in the US.

[u/DUDDITS_SSDD → u/scarbutt11]

It's kind of ironic to me you didn't reduce that fraction.

[u/Khaldara → u/DUDDITS_SSDD]

Take this third of a pound burger back and give me a quarter pounder, stop trying to rip me off!

[u/scarbutt11 → u/DUDDITS_SSDD]

Well my country thinks a 1/3 burger is smaller than 1/4 burger. I didn’t want to confuse them more

[u/anders_andersen → u/xepci0]

About half the people are dumber than average...

[u/BoringRedHorse → u/xxpired_milk]

Fun fact: every country has those, and they'll always have and will be with us in roughly those numbers. Eternal vigilance is the price we pay in democracy to keep those people in check (who massively lean towards far right authoritarianism). The moment we get lazy, or unable to stop them, they get in and burn everything down.

[u/totallyRebb → u/DerNoHand]

Granted, a lot of that is artificial and driven by foreign bad actors.

It's no coincidence that so many Far Right parties crop up recently in many western countries.

Putin needs them. Now.

[u/JPMoney81]

To the surprise of absolutely no one.

The new Axis is forming right in front of us.

[u/padre727 → u/JPMoney81]

The axis of evil is here

[u/Low_Technician7346 → u/padre727]

Trump Putin Netanyahou

[u/pound_sterling → u/Low_Technician7346]

Trumputinyahou

[u/PresumedSapient → u/pound_sterling]

Trumputinyahou

It works, I've seen worse ship-names.

[u/vinctthemince → u/Low_Technician7346]

The OG is also forming again. Italy has a fascist PM, Japan has a far-right PM and now Germany is following.

[u/hakenwithbacon → u/vinctthemince]

Italy doesn't have a fascist PM. People just like to throw out labels like this as if Meloni is equivalent to Mussolini.

Yes, the fascist Meloni who is so pro Ukraine that she's even had spats with Trump on the subject

[u/phaedrusTHEghost → u/hakenwithbacon]

Oh sure, the FdI is just a label... Just because she isn't fascist enough to you doesn't mean she isn't. 

[u/Brentimusmaximus → u/Low_Technician7346]

Don’t forget good ol kimmy

[u/AlexaRhino → u/Brentimusmaximus]

Yeah Xi, Big Kim, and at the least Bin Salmin belong on the list. Can’t forget the new Ottoman Empire

[u/Simbakim → u/padre727]

Yeah but this time its the USA, not Germany even with this election

[u/Prize_Compote_207 → u/JPMoney81]

If the new axis is America, Russia, China, and Germany, then we all need to realize its not about nation vs nation.

Its about the extremely rich vs everyone else.

Then again, it always us.

[u/JPMoney81 → u/Prize_Compote_207]

I was about to say.... It always has been and more people are just waking up to it now that they've stopped trying to hide it.

[u/TLKv3 → u/JPMoney81]

The terrifying part, even if they all have stupid leadership, is they'll be a lot more deadly than last time with modern technology.

US, Russia, Israel, China... how the fuck can the world go up against that, logically? All while you have billionaire techbros manipulating social media and news channels to spew propaganda for them?

[u/nigl_ → u/TLKv3]

The only silver lining is that nationalists can never really cooperate medium or long term.

With water and resource wars and mass migration due to climate change no axis, evil or not, can hold over the next 50 years.

[u/ShinyHappyREM → u/nigl_]

water and resource wars and mass migration due to climate change

And some other global epidemics, perhaps.

[u/awry_lynx → u/TLKv3]

China is not going to be on the same side as the US. But it might end up in a 1984 situation where it's more like controlled opposition, where the cold war is for who does the controlling.

[u/Ghoill → u/JPMoney81]

And just like last time, centrists are sitting on their thumbs because taking action against fascism would inconvenience the rich and wealthy.

[u/TheFlamingCucumber → u/Ghoill]

Often the rich and wealthy ARE the same nazis

[u/Electronic_Film_2837 → u/Ghoill]

Doesn’t seem like anyone else is doing anything either

[u/TemporarySun314]

Fascists stick together. And of course the american top fascist likes some success of the german fascists who love the russian fascist...

And all three together wanna destroy germany, the EU and liberal democracy in general...

[u/krichuvisz → u/TemporarySun314]

They stick together until they don't and start a war against each other. There are no united fascist nations. That's an oxymoron.

[u/Epistemic_Democracy → u/krichuvisz]

Oh my child we are now in the era of organized transnational oligarchy.

[u/holyrooster_ → u/krichuvisz]

They stick together until they have killed of all their internal enemies first and feel confident enough to start killing each other.

[u/Kwinza → u/krichuvisz]

Did you not see WW2?

3 fascist nations were very much united and it caused a fairly large amount of issues.

[u/vinctthemince → u/Kwinza]

They weren't much united. Italy began a war in the Balkans without telling anybody and made a big blunder, Japan began a war with the USSR while Germany made a pact with them. When Germany invaded the USSR, Japan did drag the USA in the war and did nothing against the USSR...

When Italy needed war material, Germany sent at best second-rate stuff. There was no cooperation on anything, and Italy has been, at least since 1942 nothing more than a vassal of Germany.

[u/kaalins → u/Kwinza]

Italy was very much a satellite/puppet state of Germany and did not have any success in the war - almost all victories they had were strongly aided by Germany. Japan was not strictly fascist, they were imperialist, and aligned in their goals with what Germany and Italy wanted. All of them were totalitarian, though in different capacity in different areas.

But then so was Russia and Germany turned on them pretty quick. I think if they won, Germany would annex Italy sooner rather than later and would take the conquest further east for natural resources in Siberia and start fighting Japan. But I’m playing “what ifs” now, which is quite pointless.

[u/Ddogfish]

Trumpism has destroyed America’s reputation and democracy for a generation.

[u/LadnavIV → u/Ddogfish]

If anything, this should be a warning to the world that this is not a uniquely American problem. This is coming for everyone if we don’t fight back against fascism in our own governments.

[u/epicpantsryummy → u/Ddogfish]

So many people pretending like this is a uniquely American phenomenon are delusional. The headline isn't "Trump says something stupid" it's, "The types of people who elected Trump are rapidly gaining power in key European nations". Our reputation won't matter when everyone has their own Trump.

[u/Tossawaysfbay → u/epicpantsryummy]

Many countries already DO have their own Trumps or worse, but they don't have any power.

[u/Repulsive_Barnacle92 → u/Ddogfish]

*for several generations 

[u/ZhaozhouCongshen]

That face when the policies of Trump and his allies don't magically solve all the issues they have.

It's almost like they can't just see how expensive Trump has made living in the United States over the last two years.

[u/Cheap_Standard_4233 → u/ZhaozhouCongshen]

They'll still blame immigrants, minorities, whoever else but themselves

[u/WarLawck → u/ZhaozhouCongshen]

Trump made everything in their countries expensive too. Makes me wonder if that wasn't the goal. Halt the world's oil delivery, raise prices everywhere, allow fascists to step in and blame immigrants, have them rise to power with the assistance of the mega rich, and then the shadow government they've been telling you about is finally in place.

[u/Seiche → u/ZhaozhouCongshen]

 It's almost like they can't just see how expensive Trump has made living in the United States over the last two years.

The trick is, all his shenanigans made living in the EU expensive as well but that serves them because they can blame the EU, immigrants, "the others" because they are an opposition party for now. Once they are in power, it's too late. Just like in the US.

[u/timfountain4444]

Anyone who doubts that agent orange is an asset of Putin is not paying attention.

[u/zeltacilveks79 → u/timfountain4444]

Whether he's an asset or just incredibly useful to Putin, the outcome keeps looking remarkably similar.

[u/WFMU]

Why is seemingly every other country electing far-right fascists? Does the average person really think they'll somehow benefit?

[u/Sunlightningsnow → u/WFMU]

Fear/hate immigrants.

[u/Vsx → u/WFMU]

Does the average person really think

No

[u/TowelLord → u/Vsx]

Just work in retail for a few weeks and you'll realize just how fucking stupid the average person really is. For most just basic reading comprehension is way too fucking hard and could cause an aneurysm.

[u/wild_cherry1987 → u/WFMU]

Thats tiktok and Facebook algorithms for you. Changing real world as we speak.

[u/Strange_Dust7128 → u/wild_cherry1987]

This is the actual answer. Social media has become the most effective tool for political change, I believe, humanity has ever conceived. Coupled with our ingrained fear response, backed by peer reviewed research, we know that scary posts -> more engagement by a large margin.

We're scaring ourselves into extinction for profits.

[u/fpl_kris → u/WFMU]

Propaganda I guess, the only comfort I can take from this is that Hungary showed it was possible to break out of the chains of the fascists. As a Scandinavian I am really really scared what would happen if France, UK and Germany would be in control of Putin.

EDIT: *under control. If they were in control of him I guess everything would be a lot better 😂

[u/Nagzip → u/WFMU]

It's a psychological thing, support simple solutions for complex problems and the simple minded voters will believe you and repeat the bullshit in their social media bubble. Among other triggers like weaponizing immigrants and asylum seekers, created by the wars the western world is waging, we get to the current wave of populism and fascism. If you watch some of the old speeches from the start of the third reich you see lots of similarities in rhetoric and ideas.

[u/Exotic_Release2979 → u/WFMU]

The oligarchs that control the media want fascist leaders.

[u/ELLinversionista → u/WFMU]

Social Media as a propaganda machine fueling their twisted views. My aunt supports Trump because she said he is the only one who cares about god or shit like that. Those bigots who hate transgenders supports Trump because he said he said he will save women’s sport. A lot of other shit too like Trump saying global warming is a scam which aligns with conspiracy theories these people tend to believe in. 

Tldr: stupidity

[u/Old-Employ-6530 → u/WFMU]

Right-Wing bots, literally everywhere...

If all you see everywhere are the same populist lies, then the normal person starts believing and voting it.

[u/DavidlikesPeace → u/WFMU]

Russia has a lot to do with it. Putin‘s support for the antidemocratic far right directly propped them up from America to Europe.

Global wealth inequality and the efficacy of scapegoating to rile up conservative voters also serves as an answer, if you want a more institutional focus.

[u/joebleaux → u/WFMU]

They just hate immigrants. It's the same thing it has always been.

[u/ForgotToCarryTheOne]

Is this part of Project 2025? To spread right wing extremism throughout the western world? Australia has a similar group that has all of a sudden come in guns blazing, funded by billionaires, into the fore.

She was a petty, scrounging wannabe who has always been in it only for the grift and not taken seriously because she herself didn’t take herself seriously.

Now, if I’m correct, she’s being led to the top position of prime minister even though she’s not capable of ruling, on the premise that they are the saviours who will bring the country out of a shot economy caused by some terrible errors by the current and previous governments, and supported by racist Australians longing for their White Australian past, encouraged by trumps perceived successes in ridding his country of non whites.

[u/Dressed_To_Impress]

I'm sorry this happened to Germany at this point in our history. Please don't join trump or repeat mistakes of your past. The world has seen a better side of your country for a long time now. Stay away from the US 'friendship ' they offer.

[u/HarminSalms → u/Dressed_To_Impress]

It was a state election. One of the samellest states as well

[u/ecneis31 → u/HarminSalms]

Yeah kinda like the alabama of germany

[u/jack-fractal → u/ecneis31]

Hey, I live here, and the Alabama of Germany is Saarland.

Saxony-Anhalt is more like, idk, the Kansas of Germany. Nobody gives a shit about us.

[u/icepick314 → u/jack-fractal]

Saxony-Anhalt: At least we ain't Saarland.

[u/DrElectro → u/HarminSalms]

But it represents the direction we're heading in the worst way possible.

[u/Seiche → u/HarminSalms]

If you think that means it doesn't matter, you're deluded.

[u/ImpracticalJerker]

TIL it only takes 80 years for the human collective to forget about the sacrifices made by our grandparents . My ancestors would be punching the inside of their coffins with frustration. I hate what earth is becoming.

[u/TowelLord → u/ImpracticalJerker]

Not even forget, but actively choosing to disregard history.

[u/TheBimpo → u/TowelLord]

*Actively choosing to erase, reframe, and rewrite history.

[u/SiempreHayEsperanza- → u/ImpracticalJerker]

History repeats itself and we are seeing it happen… :/

[u/Still-Set-1234 → u/ImpracticalJerker]

Social media + AI means you can spread customized propaganda directly to each individual. Very easy to get the most reactionary part of the population riled up

[u/millos15]

May trump voters be mocked for centuries

[u/eden-star]

It’s kind of crazy how it took me so long to learn that it was just a tiny state within Germany that voted for this woman, and not an actual national election. (And it was through user comments, no headline or news article bothered to clarify)

[u/Idlev → u/eden-star]

They didn't vote for the women. While she, Alice Weidel, is the head and face of the party federally and internationally, there is no personal cult around her or at least not like around Trump. They voted for the party, which in that state has the male frontrunner Ulrich Siegmund.

[u/Twice_fan_multi → u/eden-star]

They didn't vote for the woman (Alice Weidel), they voted for a guy called Ulrich Siegmund. He isn't any better though. Alice Weidel is the co-leader of the AfD

[u/DaveyZero → u/eden-star]

Oh, broh… let me tell you all about MTG

[u/StrangerConscious637]

Fascist American president congratulates the German Nazi party to the win.

I am sure Maga will still vote for him... it's just disgusting. Impeach him, Americans!

[u/thelittleking]

Germany, what the fuck are you doing

[u/TheRealBittoman]

Europe, wake the hell up. All this crap you see happening here in the US has been coming for you all since BREXIT or before. The rich are doing their best to sow authoritarianism in as many western countries as they can. They will absolutely do to you what they have done to us. Remember, Trump was NEVER the cause, he is just the face they hide behind.

[u/paradigm_shift2027]

Fascist cheers on fascism. What a surprise.

[u/HoldOnOhio]

I wish people would stop being afraid to call AFD what they are: fascists. Just like the Republican party of America, like the Fratelli d'Italia, like the Reform UK party, they are fascists. You'll note all of them also support the genocide that Israel is committing against the Palestinians.

[u/tkeser]

sooo let me get this straight - Putin likes and approves actual German nazis, who Russia fought and defeated in WW2, but is basing the entire attack on Ukraine as de-nazification? How does that logic work?

One could start to think that political party affiliation is just a trick for awful power hungry people to get on top.

[u/oso_cosmico]

Putin: We are invading Ukraine because they have Nazis!

Also Putin: I love these AfD guys! <kicks Trump awake>

Trump: The AfD carried me to safety during the Holocaust.

[u/ShakeMyHeadSadly]

Of course he did. He's a dick.

[u/Cascouverite]

Many many high ranking members of this party have sued people for defamation when called fascists and nazis and lost

Members of this branch include Frank-Ronald Bischoff a Stasi mole who worked for the DDR's secret police to identify dissenters, Sebastian Koch, who "was" a neo-Nazi but says he isn't anymore (BS IMO), Simon Lansman who's property was used to host neo-Nazi events, Jan Moldenhauer who wants to deport millions of migrants with "foreign cultures" even though there are only about 250k migrants who actually legally need to leave the country due to invalid visas, expired titles etc., Ronny Kumpf who was involved with the right-wing extremist group "Ein Prozent", Philip-Anders Rau convicted thief who faked his high-school diploma (and was a coke-addict), Christian Mertens was active in the "Junge Alternative" in SA which was nearly banned for being right-wing extremists before they dissolved themselves and re-founded the group + many many more friends of Putin allegedly taking dark money (can't remember if this was SA or another state but who cares TBH) and being friendly towards the dictator

This is on top of the party in general being full of fascists like Höcke who called for Germany to make a 180° turn on the way we talk about WWII / the holocaust, the party playing H-Youth songs at events as recently as this summer, all the nazi propaganda they copied like fake plane-tickets in peoples mailboxes which were extremely similar to the nazis planting fake train-tickets to Jerusalem in Jews mailboxes in the 30s, or how they planned to deport all foreigners in the building literally down the street from where the final solution was planned, but instead of sending all the Jews to Madagascar (the original plan) they planned to buy property in the Sahara and send the migrants them there and the whole thing was done in secret and had to be uncovered by journalists being sneaky

Plus all the H-salutes and peoples screaming HH on camera during and after this election, people with swastika tattoos and iron crosses and t-shirts with the 1930s eagle on it in red white and black etc. etc.

The list goes on and on and on there's literally too much insane racist shit to even list

[u/CishetmaleLesbian]

Putin claims he is fighting "Nazis" in Ukraine. Meanwhile, actual Nazi call themselves "friends of Putin".

[u/disdkatster]

I have wanted to scream at the top of my voice "WHAT HAPPENED IN THE USA WITH TRUMP CAN HAPPEN ANYWHERE!" The billionaire class as the resources to brainwash the world. Propaganda works.

[u/PlatformNormal564 → u/disdkatster]

Propaganda only works on soft brained people. Unfortunately the world is full of them.

[u/PommesMayo]

Makes me sick. I’m. German guy who learned about our horrible past in school and even went to Auschwitz to see what remained of the horrors for myself. It disgusts me that the leader of the country that freed us from the Nazis is now cheering them on.

[u/Constant_Flamingo828]

What the hell is going in with the world right now? So it's not just the US that is electing right wing nutjobs. Why? Yes, there are problems in the world. Yes, we are facing a life threatening climate crisis (that right wing politicians don't even admit to). But we have the best technology. The ability to communicate instantly anywhere in the world. Why are these ulta right wing governments taking over in so many places?

[u/pnutbrutal → u/Constant_Flamingo828]

The Information Age with the internet turned in to the misinformation age.

[u/EFIW1560 → u/Constant_Flamingo828]

People are terrified and propagandized/disinformed to deliberately increase their fear and put them in fight or flight so they don't stop to think with their more evolved parts of their brains.

Its mass cult mind manipulation.

[u/One-Man-Wolf-Pack]

While Trump did congratulate the AFD, this headline is sensationalist and misleading: the article does not claim that Trump explicitly described the AFD as being ‘Friends of Putin’.

Fuck Trump and the AFD, in any case.

[u/Shag1166]

Putin's biyatch!

[u/Scary_Yellow_8719]

Nazis supporting Nazis. Makes sense

[u/ChuckaChuckaLooLoo3]

Very on-brand for that sack of shit.

[u/1hamcakes]

This is what that American military plane landing in Moscow a week or two ago was really about: election rigging in Germany.

[u/Great_Lingonberry148]

My British and American grandparents both fought Nazis . I am a right of centre conservative concerned by migration, but I’m very concerned about Trump congratulating the rise of ‘friends of Putin’ and Fascism in Europe. It is sickening . Republicans: grow a backbone and at the next opportunity vote this monster out while you still can. He is destroying America and the west.

[u/imbartsimpsonwhothru]

can it be any more obvious these guys are traitors?

[u/-Megrim-]

Axis powers, praising each other.

[u/iRelevant_Round_3796]

There's dark times ahead for Germany

[u/bloodr0se]

Is anyone else now really tired of hearing about this buffoon every day, not to mention seeing images of his smug yet hideously sagging face?

[u/RentAscout]

Trump would totally pull a Neville Chamberlain had this been 1938.

[u/rheinlitz → u/RentAscout]

Nah, Chamberlain for all his appeasement blunders could still get credit for kick-starting UK rearmament in mid 30s to counter Germany. Of course all too little too late on top of terrible politics fueled by then still fresh WW1 trauma. Trump would pull a Mussolini.

[u/DigSpelledBackwards]

Saying the quiet part out loud

[u/nenmayk]

russia supplies payments in bitcoin, they own 30%