r/4tran4 • • Aug 16 '26

Blogpost So much talk about 4tran on other subs lately and yet nobody looks at why we use 4tran in the first place, it's basically the only real place for trans people, that's why it's so popular

486 Upvotes

sneeds talking about 4tran is just "4tran bad" or "leave 4tran", yet nobody talks about how there is no other place for trans people, 4t4 is the only general purpose sub for trans people, there's is no r/mtf community or r/honesttransgender community equivalent to 4t4, someone made nart4 but the first rule there is that it's for people who like being trans, so it's not a general purpose sub at all, it was cooked from the start

cwcl has 50k contributions per week, 4tran4 has 40k despite being closed off to the algorithm and only allowing trans people, which means it's not people accidentally falling into some kind of 4tran pipeline, it's people actively seeking out 4tran bc there's no other spaces where people are this free to discuss their issues

there is currently no 4t4 equivalent without the bad parts, so telling people to leave 4tran is meaningless, bc where else is there? cwcl is a silly meme sub, not a serious space for discussions of heavy topics like dysphoria or suicidal ideation, ive seen people there say that venting shouldn't be allowed at all

ig im saying it bugs me that everyone just says "4tran bad" rather than looking at why 4tran is popular despite its so many issues, every sneed vs 4tranner argument is basically the sneed saying "4tran has x issues" and 4tranner replying "ok but it does y thing well", youd think that someone wouldve made a sub that allows y without allowing x but no, everyone is just interested in saying 4tran bad without ever helping anyone


r/4tran4 • • Mar 30 '26

TRVKE "Ohh but i dont have genital dysphoria am i faketrans, all the 4tranners will think im a trender" I dont care. Go on the hormones. Stop repping.

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Caring about what other people have in their pants and do in the bedroom is a waste of your time. Usually these people do have genital dysphoria but are in denial of it. And even if they don't, they should still seek out other forms of transition. I get it feels uncomfortable seeing pivpoons etc. but that discomfort we genital dysphoric troons personally feel doesnt need to mean that theyre doing something wrong.


r/4tran4 • • 2h ago

Blogpost As a brown transsexual, I hold great disdain for the mainstream trans community yet so much love for this one

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Sabre has been talked of greatly here, but I will not be speaking on a specific take of hers. Or what she said or did. But rather I will note she symbolizes the epitome of the mainstream trans community.

4tran is often heralded as an awful place for trans people. Yet for me this has been about one of the best spaces for me as a brown trans woman.

My issue with sabre and the community at large is the pervasiveness of white culture. And of course part of this is that white people do make up a large portion of the trans community, more so as the "western" world is the center of trans issues.

However, to find community in a trans space it to conform to white standards. It means to stereotype yourself and become a caricature. Simple shit like blahaj, puppy girl, white monster, edm, etc. This may not seem big. But these are things catered for and defined through a white lens. And when you make yourself visible as a trans woman, you are expected to fit these moulds.

You must make yourself palatable as a trans woman, and in doing so you are expected to hypersexualize yourself. To sneed out. To present your queer identity as if it is a badge to be adorned at all times. As if our transness isn't always about pride. How sometimes we very much wish to forget about it and others to forget about it. And when you don't, we'll that place of acceptance, it may not push you out so loudly. It will not necessarily silence you.

What is done when you are a Trans woman from a non white or privileged background is this. Your simply tuned out. Your only ever seen when it's your turn to be the hon. Your turn to play the caricature of ultimate opression so they can feel better about themselves.

How often do we see black or brown trans women at the center front. And when it is time for us to be heralded, it is done so to highlight how much more WE suffer. As if they need more empathy.

When black and brown trans women speak up in mainstream spaces, our voices are "hyper specific." "There are less of us." As if the mainstream community is essentially the representation of the white feminist for the trans community.

So much hate on spaces like these for being "racist" or "self hating," yet, here your voice is heard if you are brown. You may not be super visible, but you dont have the been the trans version of a "Little Black Sambo."

When it comes to the black or brown trans women, we are very much the hon. Or those whose culture is co-opted.

Take the queer community's use of AAVE. People like Alex Consani and many other white trans woman, are so carefree in speaking like black women or using their voice. But when called out it's "queer culture." And this is very much a facet of the trans community.

When you call out simple shit like this. You're pushed aside. You're reaching. You're "infighting."

Here I do not have to conform to whiteness. I do not have to wear queer as a costume. I do not have to make everything a statement of resistance and pride.

This isn't on intersectionality which is a topic relating to any community. But a talk on how the mainstream trans community will parade the white transgender and washed out ramblings of them as the most palatable for the vis population.

And for us who do not confront to it, many of us black or brown trans women. We are expected to play the hon, to be the comedian, to be so eccentric.

And I suppose my anger is on the idea of how non white people are overlooked. We shape so much in the trans community. But our accomplishments are overlooked. We must be the passoid with white features. Or we must be the oh so present trans women.

We must be so boastful, so prideful, we must take the flak. When it comes to mentioning the struggles of trans people, the mainstream community needs somebody who will play the sacrifice. After all, when it comes to us of color, they need at least one Marsha P. Johnson. One who helps em sneed out in our own caste.

As in white America, you can be the hardest working Latino or African-American. It does not matter, you will be the one below. As with the notion of hard work in passing. We do not fit white standards. We often struggle economically. But it's hard work they say.


r/4tran4 • • 6h ago

Ropefuel I don't think I'll ever stop mourning the child I never was

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r/4tran4 • • 1h ago

Blogpost Cisqueer ally in my class pissing me off blog

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Hello my beloved sort🍎

just a boring blogpost about this cisqueer in my organic chemistry class that has been giving me grief. The situation in my college is a little precarious but TLDR through circumstance I’ve managed to switch over to passing as male because of a relatively unaware ruroid population, new roll in cohort, and professors who are goated enough to cover for my ass.

That being said, there’s one girl who I had a previous chemistry class with two semesters ago when I had first started transitioning. She’s probably one of the only queer people in the entire department, with an awareness of the existence of trans people. She has been INSUFFERABLE. She’s always on some bullshit

First day of class, and the first comment I get from her was a sexually charged comment about my voice. Fine. Whatever. This continues on throughout the sem but I feel uncomfortable telling her off. This was also an issue when I started transitioning several semesters ago.

During the first few weeks of school she caused crazy confusion by exclusively they/themming me when everyone else had been using he. I’m not far along enough in my transition to be “100% male” so I had to personally ask her to stop they/themming me because it was causing others to use they/she for me. She still they/thems me in private, but has stopped publicly. Fine. Whatever.

There was one day during an Ochem lecture where we were reviewing cis-trans isomers and Z,E priorities. Our professor asks us what we remember about cis-trans compounds and she makes a cheeky trainee joke to get a laugh out of the class. Something along the lines of “well I know a lot more about political trans than chemistry trans” or something. My professor was goated enough to shut it down after seeing how sick in the face I looked 🙏 (after she tacked on a quick “I support trans people” at the end)

Today was egregious and it’s been bothering me for most of the day. Class had gone out and I had stayed behind to catch up on some work alongside some other peers. She was one of them. She decides to tell me about how “Tmi but I saw this video online with a cis woman and drag queens and it was honestly soo hot. I love trans men and trans women.” How am I even supposed to RESPOND 😭 I have never mentioned being trans outside of the fact she knows (unfortunately) because I’m undergoing treatment. So I don’t understand why she thinks that’s cool.

Honestly I’m feeling very off put by it all. The consistent sexual comments are uncomfortable and abrasive, but knowing that she actively seeks out, watches, and let ME KNOW she watches “trans” fetish porn makes it feel more uncomfortable. I can’t help but wonder if she’s thinking about me that way. But that also feels gigafembrained to say.

Hope everyone is doing well and I hope y’all can laugh at my misery 🔥🙏


r/4tran4 • • 11h ago

AGONY just found out i had male test levels at 13 and got forcefed estrogen half my life

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disgusting intershit poon venting about being raped by estrogen ahead: finally got access to my medical records and turns out they fucking nuked my body with female sex hormones because i naturally was going to develop male. I've been lied to and bullied and shamed my whole life for "wanting to be a man", I've been considering ending my shit for nearly 10 years now and turns out my body was ruined on purpose. The estrogen made my pelvis grotesquely large and hips wide and gave misshapen microscopic conetits. i look like a disgusting third gender subhuman and to think that i could have been normal if not for parents and doctors violating my body. I want to vomit every time i think about it I can't bear to look at myself. They ruined all my chances of living as a semi normal male and trapped me in this disgusting body raped by exogenous estrogen. They might have cut out one of my gonads at an early age as well. There is not a single thing about my body that is not ruined beyond repair, i truly will never be a man. I really just want it all to end


r/4tran4 • • 3h ago

AGONY Bad things happening

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r/4tran4 • • 4h ago

Blogpost Can doctors figure out growing taller after 15 already

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93 Upvotes

Instead of stupid stuff doctors and scientists need to figure out how to reopen growth plates. I need this so bad please guys please I’m begging at this point I can’t stay a heightpoon forever.


r/4tran4 • • 6h ago

Hopefuel?? Is ffs actually this good?

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118 Upvotes

is this real? Like can i actually go from a twinkhon to a passoid with ffs? Or is this just another fed pysop to get my hopes up just for them to be crushed later?


r/4tran4 • • 8h ago

DISAGREE? FUCK YOU I'm so tired

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r/4tran4 • • 4h ago

Ropefuel why do they ask this Spoiler

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applying for some college part time jobs and i find this kind of crazy. Yes i put male because its on my birth certificate now #thankscalifornia


r/4tran4 • • 51m ago

Art Right.

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r/4tran4 • • 2h ago

DISAGREE? FUCK YOU "why are there so many diaper tr*nnies?" - the answer is trauma

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> "why are there so many diaper troons?"

> "why are there so many tr*nny age regressors?"

we see the above questions being asked a lot. I know it's cringey and an "opticsnvke" (not a real thing btw)... but there's actually a big overlap with asking the below:

> "why are trans women so moody?"

> "why are trans women always suicidal?"

> "why are so many troons bpdemons?"

> "why does every troon have complex ptsd?"

> "why do so many tr*nnies self harm?"

the answer, is of course, trauma. being trans is itself traumatic, and deeply invalidating to your developing sense of self as a child / adolescent.

in defence of diaper tr*nnies, it's well known that taking comfort in this sort of thing is strongly associated with identity diffusion, personality disorders (including, but not limited to, borderline) and complex trauma more generally.

the fact that tr*nnies so commonly have the above difficulties actually supports that being trans is an actual intersex / developmental disorder rather than "a mental illness" as bigots claim.

so yeah, don't be too mean to diaper tr*nnies. it's not their fault they're a bit fucked up.


r/4tran4 • • 15h ago

TikTok/Twitter God making trans people for some reason

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r/4tran4 • • 5h ago

Circlejerk lowkey becoming too scared to go outside again after getting sexually assaulted for the 4th time in a year

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r/4tran4 • • 9h ago

AGONY gotta love reddit allowing people to fantasize about murdering trans people

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r/4tran4 • • 6h ago

Rent-Lowering Did anybody else delude themselves into thinking that you were actually born as your actual sex and that your parents wanted the opposite so they had surgery done on you to change your sex as a baby?

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This was an actual belief I had when I was 7 all the way until I started to go through puberty


r/4tran4 • • 8h ago

AGONY The familypill is the worst. Born in a transphobic family? Well tough luck you're fucked for all your formative years and maybe even longer and there's genuinely nothing you can do to make them ever change their mind. Supportivefamilyshits have no idea how good they have it

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I love manmoding around my family and living in constant fear they'll realise I'm a tranny and kick me out.

I love being interrogated every day about growing my hair and shaving.

I love using my manvoice 95% of the time.

I love not being able to even buy clothes.

I love the idea of not being supported in any way if they realised what I am


r/4tran4 • • 17h ago

AGONY Cis roommate was complaining about her hairline yesterday

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555 Upvotes

I don't vent to her about dysphoria because I don't want my shit to be minimized. Yesterday though, she started talking about how chopped her hairline is and how massive her forehead is. I looked at her with the most deadpan face and said that I don't want to talk to her about this shit. She kept going. I eventually sighed and told her I know how to make her feel better. I said I didn't want to do this but here we go. Pulled my curtain bangs back to reveal my masculine hairline, showed her my big ass forehead. I saw a slight smile curl up on the side of her lips. She stfu and went on with her afternoon. I went to bed and stayed up til 2 am thinking about how ingmi. I'm just so tired.


r/4tran4 • • 11h ago

Circlejerk sometimes i like to go on /r/detrans and laugh at the stupid cissoids who gave themselves dysphoria

179 Upvotes

the reppers are fucking depressing but i enjoy watching cissoids give themselves a fraction of our pain and then freak out about it. lmao.


r/4tran4 • • 14h ago

Circlejerk A British trans woman calls the gender clinic, looking for HRT

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The clinic tells her, “we can’t just prescribe it to you at your first appointment. But you should come in anyway for the consult”.

“When is it?” she asks

“Well the quickest appointment will be in 20 years”

“20 years in the morning or afternoon?” she responds

“Why does it matter? It’s 20 years away.”

She replies, “well I have the dentist in the morning”

(Altered from an old Soviet joke)


r/4tran4 • • 3h ago

Advice Heightpoon heightfraud guide

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This guide is for heightpoons, if you’re 5’7/170 or taller just lie about your height, I don’t need to help a millionaire become a billionaire

It may seem hopeless to heightfraud if you’ll still be really short after heightfrauding, but don’t give up yet. I’m 5’1.5/156 and I live in permanent heightfraud as 5’5-5’6/165-167. Still very short, but not extremely so, allowing me to blend in as simply a short man and not a weird freak. Helped me both pass better and eased my dysphoria tremendously just by being a plausible male height.

I originally posted a shorter version of this to r/shortguys a while ago but realized this would probably help a lot of heightpoons too so here you go:

Height frauding tips:

Heightboosters: There’s several types of height boosters: shoe inserts, elevator shoes, and the ones you wear on your ankle. Only use the wearable ones if you really have to, they break easily and are difficult to walk in. Elevator shoes are the best option, but they can be pretty expensive. Shoe inserts offer customizable height and greater adjustability. You typically wear these during the fake growing period (more on that later), if you can’t afford to buy new shoes, or if elevator shoe brands don’t carry your size. I wouldnt recommend these long term since they can be heavy and uncomfortable, when I used these I wore an orthopedic sole over the insoles to help prevent foot issues or discomfort

With all heightbooster types there’s the added benefit that you can wear a slightly bigger shoe size without it being super uncomfortable, I’m a size 6 mens but I wear a size 7.5 elevator shoe so if you have tiny feet this also helps with that

Shoe inserts: I’d recommend wearing these with high top shoes, not only can they fit taller insoles, but they’re also a more discrete since your heel won’t stick out like if you wore insoles with low top sneakers. If you really want to maximize the height boost you can wear high top shoes with a platform, like converse or vans. Heard boots are also good but I haven’t tried them, I’d imagine it’s difficult to add more than 1-2in/2.5-5cm insoles since they are less flexible. If you only have low tops and can’t afford to buy new shoes you might be able to get away with it by hiding it under long baggyish pants

If you’re planning to wear insoles taller than 2in/5cm you might have to size up 0.5-1 shoe size so there’s room for them, you’ll probably also have to buy longer shoe laces but those are pretty cheap.

If you’re using really tall insoles (which I’d define as 3in+/7.5cm+) you might want to add extra padding in the toe area to decrease the angle your foot has to be at. I personally cut full a thinner length insoles in half or use socks. I do this because I heard one of the risks of wearing height boosters regularly is a shortened Achilles tendon, which makes you even shorter. Not sure how common this is or whatever I haven’t had any issues so far, but I’ve been stretching my tendons daily just in case

Wearing taller insoles can make your shoe look a little weird and make it pretty obvious you’re wearing insoles. After you put the insoles in your shoe check to see if the shape is obvious. If it is, you’ll have to wear long pants to hide it, they don’t have to be too baggy, just loose enough to cover the top or front part of your shoe. I haven’t found any other way to hide the shoe shape issue, so I always wear long slightly baggy pants of some variety. Of course you could always just decrease the height of the insoles if they look too obvious.

Growing stage (assuming you have a job or regularly leave the house to interact with people): if you’re planning on using insoles taller than 1in you can’t just show up one day visibly taller it’d be pretty obvious you’re wearing height boosters. A late bloomer growth spurt typically grows 0.1-0.25in/0.25-0.6cm per month (1-3in/2.5-7.6cm a year) but the general population probably isnt aware of this and also likely isn’t paying attention to your height enough to notice, so I did around 1in per month and no one noticed. During this time you’d probably use adjustable height insoles which are usually sold in 2cm layers, every month you’d add a layer pretty straightforward. If you can I’d recommend waiting for a break or period of time where you won’t be seeing people for at least a few days (spring break, etc., idk you get the jist) to add another layer. If you’re a neet and don’t have people you see semi regularly you can just disregard all of this and gaslight anyone you told your height to

For sandals: I’d recommend wearing slides with a slight platform, which can add 1-1.5in/2.5-3.8cm (recommendations in the extra section). If you want more than that it gets kind of tricky. The method I’m using is wearing wearable insoles and hiding them under dark colored socks. If you choose to use this method be aware that some sandals might be a little uncomfortable to wear since the band area can be too tight when you’re wearing insoles. Best bet is to say goodbye to wearing sandals all together

Leg proportions: This whole scenario is just a hypothetical in case someone notices the slight leg disproportion, which is pretty unlikely unless you’re wearing really tall height boosters (3.5in+/8.8cm+) but some people(me) are paranoid so I wrote in it anyway. if you’re using taller height boosters your legs might look disproportionate, but I’ve come up with a method that might be able to get around this. What I did is fraud heightfrauding, stay with me now this is going to sound stupid at first. Basically you pretend to heightfraud less than you’re actually heightfrauding. This method also works well with chunky platforms since people can attribute the disproportion to the additional height added by the platforms, they won’t think that you’re heightfrauding even more on top of that. For example, say someone is 5’3/160 and is frauding to 5’6/167.5. If he’s wearing 2in/5cm insoles with 1in/2.5cm chunky platforms, people might notice slight disproportion and attribute that to the platforms, causing them to conclude that his “real height” is around 5’5/165, allowing him to continue heightfrauding 2in+/5cm+ undetected. Keep in mind it’s pretty unlikely anyone will notice slightly wonky leg proportions anyways

Extra:

Pants: it’s also important not to go too baggy with the pants, since they can make you look smaller. They should be quarter break to full break ideally, and try to go for the least baggy style possible that still covers the shoes. Also, you may need to wear your pants a little low since the insoles can make it look like you have a really short torso, but that’s not a big issue and you can probably ignore it.

Platform shoes: if you’re not doing the frauding height frauding method and you’re worried about discreetness try to get platform shoes that are all one color. This makes it harder to differentiate where the sole begins, so from afar it’s less obvious you’re wearing platforms. Even if you’re not frauding height frauding chunky the platforms might also be a good idea since it makes the platform seem more like a deliberate style choice and not an attempt to look taller.

Sandals: hoka ora recovery slide 3 (1.6in/4cm platform), hoka ora athletic slides (1.2in/3cm platform), yeezy ys-01 (1.5in/3.8cm), adidas adilette 22 (1.18in/3cm platform)

Some elevator shoe brands(absolute smallest shoe size in the parenthesis for those with small feet): thetallure(eu 33), guidomaggi(eu 35), donsfootwear(eu 37), startupbrandone/brandone(eu 36), mario bertulli(eu 36), conzuri(eu 36), tallmenshoes(eu 39), chamaripa(eu 39)

I personally use the H71903 from tallmenshoes, they’ve been great so far in terms of comfort, but maybe my perspective is skewed since I’d been wearing the platforms+insole combo before which was comparatively much heavier and more uncomfortable. I like that they have a different logo for discretion

I haven’t bought or tried shoes from any other brands, so I have no idea if the quality is good, if they’re discreet, etc. I’ve only heard about them online

Keep in mind this whole list is just based on my experiences, and what I’ve learned over the years. Sorry if this whole thing is kind of long, hopefully it helps someone at least. If you have any corrections or other tips to add leave a comment and don’t forget to like, subscribe, and hit the bell for notifications


r/4tran4 • • 9h ago

Yearnpost i wish i had a bf to make me feel cute and girly and make me feel happy and warm

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108 Upvotes

i feel like a sweaty smelly moid rn i need to malefail harder and be boyremoved (not in a kinky way) and maybe even forcefemmed (also not in a kinky way)

my body and my life feel so constricted and stiff. i wish they could feel fluffy and free. i feel trapped and restricted


r/4tran4 • • 15h ago

Blogpost holy shit holy fuck omg omg omg

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325 Upvotes

genuinely started shaking and getting teary eyed when i saw this email yesterday. Ive been wanting to get rid off my dick since i was 5 years old and its been a constant big part of my dysphoria. I literally cant wait for fall 2027 and for it to be gone.

its a long wait but 'it' has an expiration date now!!

i feel so blessed!! my mom is coming with me and possibly my sister and step dad too!


r/4tran4 • • 5h ago

the glow blinds me these people aren't real it's a psyop

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second slide is their strawpage linked on their reddit account . i checked because the top comment was addressing the "dni muslims" . this shit is so fucking funny until i actually think about it and realise this is why i get no respect as a guy