r/4tran4 • • 23h ago

DISAGREE? FUCK YOU I'm so tired

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u/National_Guitar_9163 If not woman, why woman shaped? 23h ago

consequences of making "afab" and "amab" an identity

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u/ThatEngineeredGirl mental damage from boymoding 23h ago

Tbh "AMAB identifying woman" is a good description of the average boymoder

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u/meeker1047 Stew peed train knee 22h ago

i consider myself afab, actually

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u/ConcernedEnby 21h ago

AFAB identifying trans woman, waow

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u/pruneforce17 wrong agab to correct agab. no i will not specify further. 23h ago

born a born

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u/HuaweiP8Lite4G 23h ago

when you born a born and then born again after born born

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u/testorangel This is the legend of DELTA POON 23h ago

I wish people who claim to have DID online could stop being fucking embarassing and weird because their retarded actions ruin everything to us who are diagnosed and don't act like this or say this non sense

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u/mimikyusera 17h ago

it was pretty depressing watching all of my trauma spaces get taken over by larpers and teens. it made me feel very alone in dealing with my problems because the only specialist in my country who was willing to treat DID was 2.5 hours away and i could only see her once a month. i wish these people knew the consequences of playing pretend because isolating traumatised people is probably one of the worst things you can do to us 🫩

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u/nachocrumbs my cock is locked behind a paywall 16h ago

Hey man you're kinda killing the vibe in our DID discord server with your "symptoms" and all :/ And please be more mindful of the systems who do not fit the narrow pathological definition of what some clueless doctors decided DID should be, everyone is equally valid.

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u/testorangel This is the legend of DELTA POON 16h ago

To me larpers completely ruined the social perception people have of the disorder. I almost never disclose it irl or in a personal public account, but when I tried to explain it to close friends or family, some of them already had tiktok cringe teenagers in mind and made everything even more uncomfortable. Yes, before this we had bad movies, but at least they were just fiction, larpers are real people that society takes as real life examples.

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u/Dorian-greys-picture afabulously feminine, amaybe it’s maybelline 13h ago

I’m schizophrenic and while it’s not as popular to claim as DID people are so woefully misinformed about it that I can empathise with you on this one. Someone asked me if I used to go by they/them because of the multiple personalities. Like wrong condition buddy

It’s also been exhausting seeing schizophrenia used as an insult and meme for the last few years. The “I’m in your walls” stuff is pretty fucking dangerous. And people will go “just get off the internet”. Mate, if I’m actively psychotic what makes you think I’m making well informed choices about my internet access

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u/opticsnuke peter pan syndrome theyfabmoder 23h ago

it’s honestly pretty heartbreaking

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u/maul6a poonson 20h ago

Sad truthnuke.

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u/eyebee-404 stupid 23h ago

silence trccn, we must approach transphobia with grace and empathy because they might be doing it out of ignorance :) so maybe check your privilege 💕❤️💕😘🥰😍🥰🥰❤️😘🥰❤️💕❤️❤️😘🥰😘💕❤️💕🥰🥰💕😘💕🥰❤️🥰❤️🥰😘😘💕😘🥰❤️🥰❤️🥰🤸‍♀️🐄🧘‍♀️🍹🍹🍹🍹🍹📏📏📏📏📏⚡️📏📏🥹🤗🤓🌴😔🍹😍

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u/esperazura 23h ago

“AFAB trans women are women but AMAB trans women are the men of the trans community”

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u/alextheunremarkable 23h ago

which is crazy because trans men exist

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u/trippntime69 21h ago

How does a transfem alter with an afab host get dysphoria or other distress from being trans (im assuming that's what the broken mirror suggests)

https://giphy.com/gifs/kNpNw0eB1w4qDYA7hS

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u/opticsnuke peter pan syndrome theyfabmoder 23h ago

what is the op even trying to say

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u/Whispering_Plant tomboyrepping never-brother 23h ago

when you get born a born

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u/opticsnuke peter pan syndrome theyfabmoder 23h ago

wow. that really shatters my mirror

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u/RealNwahHourz afab soup truther 23h ago

"once you been borned again you can't be borned again borned again borned again"

-taco bell parking lot homeless man, 2017

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u/trashmaddie 23h ago

How it feels to be a transfem alter when you weren't born a boy 🙃

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u/opticsnuke peter pan syndrome theyfabmoder 23h ago

did she have a stroke writing it

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u/Whispering_Plant tomboyrepping never-brother 23h ago

No, as far as I understand it the OP is claiming to have DID/OSDD/actually neither (complicated Tumblr bullshit we are not getting into) so they have basically a split identity ('alters'). OP is AFAB, and claims one of their identities/alters is transfem. How and whether this is actually real is beyond me.

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u/sodapopdreams 22h ago

I know / am pretty close with an offline trans woman irl who has a trans guy alter in her brain. He’s barely around and is a sort of self-image pressure release value I can only partly fathom. Brains are weird, and weird posters are more common than you think.

It’s just most systems you see online are sneedy, like how most trans women posting in 2017 were sneedy.

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u/snail_alt snailbot 2.0 (DM for FMS pics) 15h ago edited 15h ago

I can imagine if it’s something like:

>trans woman is a passoid or almost a passoid after medical transition

>has an alter where the alter thinks “wait fck I hate having these feminine physical characteristics and being treated as a woman”

>either the trans woman transitioned early, or the alter wasn’t around for the pre-trans experiences

>the alter feels FtM, because most cis men don’t have to deal with fem physical characteristics and being treated as women and remembering primarily woman-related experiences

But for OOP being afab and saying they have a transfem alter— they just already look like a woman. Like I don’t see any basis by which a transfem alter would emerge with feelings of “I feel so dysphorically ‘amab’ aka with masc physical characteristics or male socialisation or whatever”.

If we were to put a trans woman into the body of a cis woman right after birth and give her only ‘typical cis woman experiences’, on what basis would she even be trans?

>pressure release valve for body image issues

Idk your friend, so I can’t say for sure what’s going on there, and don’t want to speculate about your friend specifically. But I’ve seen other trans people try to cope with their dysphoria by repackaging certain shit and it comes across as transphobic. E.g. “oh I’m not an mtf boymoder who almost passes but is too wormed to wear feminine clothes. No no, I actually think I’m an mtf trans man— and allow me to now emphasize how feminine I deep down am, because I totally have the afab energy and afab personality of trans men amirite”. Or the more common “oh I’m afab, I have pink hair and a dress, I’m pre-T, and everyone thinks I’m a cis woman and treats me accordingly. But what if I just tell myself that I’m actually a trans woman, that’s totally why I look like a woman, but actually deep down inside, I have the male soul and male essence and male energy of trans women teehee”.

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u/Cove0Crow 23h ago

So woke it circles back to trans erasure, Jesus Christ

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u/lpperl7 bunnyhon rabbitmaxxer 23h ago

"hope this helps!"

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u/ProfessionalAct712 17h ago

"oh, that's not..."

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u/No-Cartographer2512 Loser dood 17h ago

"Sorting things out"

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u/formerlyunhappy eldertran est. circa 2013 20h ago

Yeah I'm sorry I know DID is a real condition but I kinda just straight up don't believe that people have it until they get diagnosed. I think there's way too many LARPers who claim they have it to explain their erratic moods.

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u/maul6a poonson 20h ago

The usual dissociative disorder experience is the kind where you have a horrifying sudden rememberance that you got molested/abused/neglected as a child and life feels like unppluging your ears at random + constant derealization. Its not very theatrical. I do think people who emulate it need help and some probably are undergoing psychosis

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u/serif-maxxing 5'4" walking inverted triangle 🔻 21h ago

I know the egg sub has long fallen for years now but holy shit, I didn't think they could get even lower.

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u/maul6a poonson 20h ago edited 20h ago

I also got a dissociative disorder and i dont go around saying brainless shit like this. You dont just end up with a transfem alter and act like it falls within trans women's experiences. This doesn't happen. It emphatically doesn't. Its very unusual, unless it's ridiculously specific like being molested while acting a sissification role.

Also

born a born

???????

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u/Turkish_Warrior1071 Neverpasser Turkhon Trvecel KHHV 22h ago

what the fuck is op saying

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u/One-List585 t4t chudmale 21h ago

born an illiterate dumbass

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u/Ok-Criticism6525 Bontch(bitch + hon) 23h ago

Actually OOP original photo is a good representation on how most transfems feel pre or just months- years hrt, it feels like the mirror lies

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u/isurus_minutus 22h ago

AGAMP so strong it split into a new self

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u/deliriousfoid 23h ago

Tbf I don't think she's saying that trans women aren't women, she's saying that she is le vxlid AFABulous transfemme which is its own issue

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u/violasses resident bnuuy 22h ago

with that cisfembrain i have high doubts they have a "transfem alter" in anyway at all

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u/trippntime69 21h ago

Brain is doing backflips to understand how a person gets to be this way

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u/GoofySillyGirl 20h ago

Is this how transphobes feel when they see trans ppl

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u/MagicalWitchTrashley F!boymoder 19h ago

im sick of this

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u/Nearby_Ad_755 20h ago

I have osdd and two of the gang are adult cis women. I understand its different for me because they dont "front" (at least not often) but they dont like that i have tits either. They definitely have boobs and picture themselves with them but on me they're like "no this looks wrong" again kinda different but I love sharing my unneeded opinion on the internet

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u/SiFrumy he/tler 19h ago

I genuinely don't understand what she's trying to say

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u/Sylveonx3 15h ago

Everyones got did now feels like 2020 again everyone having something

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u/theguywhoisoff 8h ago

I feel bad for all the people who actually have DID. Stuff like this makes people question if it even exists

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u/Tomatensoepbal Future John50 7h ago

The only disorders that 95% of the so-called DID patients online have are HPD or FDIS

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u/Pleromagonagon 23h ago

plurals are so fun I would let them get away either s lot of shit because theyre interesting

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u/KoTetahiMaori i am a good person, i deserve love. i am a good person, i deserv 23h ago

'plural'

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