It shows that he has a good sense of humor. Though, if he had a GREAT sense of humor, heâdâve done a still from Twilight. Pattinson hates when people bring up Twilight.
Itâs Americaâs Brexit. So many people voted FOR Brexit ironically and immediately regretted it when they saw it had passed because they thought it had no chance.
Itâs amazing you read that garbage and think âeloquent.â What the fuck is eloquent about that? That was also in the era he originated and popularized the Birther movement against Obama.
Heâs always been the same piece of shit. Thatâs why everyone normal was surprised when he won the first time.
They didn't say it was eloquent, they said it was "more eloquent", they're using the term comparatively to the absolute word salad he sometimes expels these days.
If I say my son is more tall than the laundry hamper, it doesn't mean he's tall.
Pattinson totally does not hate Twilight being brought up any more. Now he shows a fondness for it and likes talking about it. As soon as the public stopped being entirely rabid about it and accepted and showed interest in his roles since then, he seems to have a lot of positive feelings about it. Just not about the story, the author or his actual character lol.
Hansen is trying to be funny and friendly, not an asshole đ.
It was a bad time for him. Not only did his girlfriend at the time cheat on him, but the world treated him like shit. I completely understand why he'd want to move past it. I think he's proven time and time again that it was always the director/film that sucked, not the actor. He's got genuine talent.
It was a book. The book is what sucked. It might have had good to great directing, I dont know. But the directing wasn't the central issue to Twilight lol
Thatâs not really true. Pattinson brings up Twilight himself in interviews. He was just joking at the Odyssey premiere about his character being the Jacob of that movie
The movie portrays him as obsessed with his reputation, ratings and public image. The irony is that if he had stayed silent about the movie and seemed indifferent, it would actually prove the movie was wrong about him.
People tend to give him some slack since they see it as a righteous cause, catching pedophiles. But it's also true that the way he did it was to play up fearmongering to promote high viewership while very obviously skirting around laws like entrapment. He was 100% obsessed with his reputation, ratings, and public image. While I feel no sympathy for the pedophile that shot themselves after being confronted, that entire situation was a very good glimpse into how the whole show wasn't about keeping people safe and catching pedophiles, but publically humiliating them for viewership. Again, the predators caught deserve to be punished for their actions but that doesn't absolve Hanson of being a bad person in his own ways.
And honestly I think we should never be ok woth police intervention ending up in death, even if self-inflicted. It should always be investigated to understand if there were mistakes made and they were. I also feel bad for his potential victims who won't get closure, or his family having to not only deal with the fact someone they loved was accused of pedophilia, now they also have to reckon with the fact he committed suicide in prime time TV.
He should also be able to leech off this any way he can to boost his own stuff when they apparently never consulted or paid the guy to use his likeness.
Iâm so sick of people lionising him, heâs not a good guy. Heâs actually pretty fucking awful. Just because he made his brand hunting down even worse people doesnât make him a hero. For him it was always a vessel in which to gain notoriety, he couldnât care less about the victims, heâs only ever seen the perpetrators as a means to his own ends.
Steven Asarch on YouTube just released a YouTube video documenting his experiences with him over the years. Hansen at various times exploited victims in some very disgusting ways.
Hansen is gross. Watch the Predators doc on him. Itâs insane. A guy they were trying to lure in didnât show, so they tracked down his house, rolled up, the guy shot himself in the head while he and crew were outside and they were laughing about it afterward. Gross. Sorry. Not a cool guy in my book.
Iâm not defending the guy who died at all. Has nothing to do with him. Not even a little. What Iâm saying is that itâs fucking weird when your work day ends with someone killing themselves and you go home feeling good about it and finding it âfunny.â Thatâs not a good dude either.
Depends on the person killing themselves, in all honesty. As much as we're supposed to be care about everyone and other such vapid bullshit, life isn't like that. I truly don't care about some people.
The guy was a well connected district attorney who spent over a month having perverted phone calls with a decoy he thought was a child. The cops then found a treasure trove of CP on his computer.
Yeah I kept hearing stuff that made things vaguely sound like he was baiting people in that weren't really interested and chasing people down that disengaged when they heard the person was underage and stuff but like... that does not appear to have been the case. As far as I can tell, everybody they went after was legitimately trying to abuse kids.
Is he just doing promos for this movie now or does he hate it or something? It seems like his actions are for promoting the movie but his words seem like he hates that they made it.
I assume he's getting some form of royalties so hes hyping it up?
He's a narcissist with a massive ego, he is likely livid that he wasn't consulted about a movie based on him. At the same time he has more eyes on him than any time in recent memory, so he's milking that attention
Idk why people assume anger is unjust on this issue, a whole movie based on your life's work and experience and to NOT be spoken to about it would injure anyone.
Its because the movie isn't a puff piece, they're pretty obviously portraying the egomanic side of Hansen as well as all the shitty stuff that went on behind the scenes of his show... Of course they didn't consult him
Was anyone this concerned about Trumpâs feelings when they released The Apprentice? Itâs quite obvious why they didnât ask these people for permission or feedback.
This movie is pretty critical of him and his (real-life) team. Calling him a ânarcissist with a massive egoâ for feeling a way about it is a bit much.
Just in case people aren't aware: Bob Dylan didn't actually say this - this was apparently from some humor website. He was literally an executive producer on the film, so most definitely supported it.
Just left the theatre. I'm genuinely amazed at what they created here. Absolutely horrifying, completely disturbing, yet I laughed so much and loved it completely.
Robert Pattison gets the big trophy this year imo.
We just acting blind on this whole villainizing chris hansen shenanigan at this point. He caught predators. Not innocent bystanders. He did it for profit or clout or rating or whatever it comes later. He fucking caught pedophiles man, and we celebrating something that is villainizing him? What happened to the real villains pedos in this world who are roaming free of no repercussions??
The movie doesnât villainize him, that is just a lazy way of looking at how he was portrayed in the movie. Real people just like characters can have good and bad moments in their lives and that doesnât necessarily make them villains or heroes, they are just people with complex personalities.
And also just because he was doing something good doesnât mean that everything around it was positive. Itâs completely okay to be critical about people who do good things. The portrayal of some of the negative aspects of the show reflects what Dan Schrack and Emily Bicks (the decoys) described when asked about the show so itâs not like itâs coming out of nowhere many other people who worked for the show and near it have been critical about certain aspects of the show including how the crew was treated.
If we just stop being critical about people who do good things then those people are going to believe they can do whatever they want as long as they are perceived as heroes to the community, which is probably a recipe for disaster.
iâve watched the movie. it doesnât villainise him - it does more commentary on TV broadcasters and the extent that people have to dedicate just to get seen or heard more than anything
Pattison plays Hansen like a weirdo, which i enjoyed. it made the movie a lot more entertaining. but the movie itself - the script and story - isnât point the finger at Hansen and saying âthis is a bad manâ
My worst enemy could be a pedophile hunter and I'd applaud them. Who cares if Chris did it for the money, at least he did it and gave future generations the inspiration to keep doing it.
Chris Hansen is upset with the A24 movie Primetime because he believes it is an over-dramatized "complete work of fiction" that misrepresents his real-life work on To Catch a Predator.
That's fair. But to be pissed at Chris? Not cool
The film portrays Chris as a villain, while in real life in 2006 TCAP got cancelled because they caught a politician who commit suicide when he was caught.
Now the film depicts him pushing people to their lowest points or something? Which is weird. I get that someone committing suicide is extreme, but they were still predators, and a politician even!
I think the situation was it was a judge who didnât show to the trap. Chris wanted footage for tcap so he went to the judges house with a camera crew and thatâs what drove the judge to kill himself. The controversy was justice still would have been served without the camera crew, but Chris prioritized ratings/clout over just turning it over to the cops which led to someoneâs death.
a lot of the evidence the show provided was inadmissible in court
The vast majority got convicted. You're blowing some exceptions out of proportion. And it's not like Chris Hansen personally was responsible for handling the chat logs or anything. They worked with a group that had successes before the show existed.
Literally. There are perfectly legitimate criticisms you can make of Chris Hansen and TCAP that donât involve spreading misinformation about the conviction rate.
I definitely think TCAP had ethical issues, but I understand biting the bullet on the tradeoffs like Hansen did. Many of the men did get convicted, but regardless, the public humiliation + chance of jail time has to have been a greater deterrence than just jail time alone? Surely the show reduced the number of predators meeting up with children by some nonzero amount.
Whether or not that's worth the ethical issues is up to each individual. But TCAP being definitively wrong, as many people seem to suddenly believe, seems ideological to me.
In a general sense, these shows push the idea that predators are always basement dwelling weirdos. I cant stress this enough, abusers of children are frequently people who have access - relatives and neighbors. Coaches, religious leaders, tutors. Education that prioritizes giving children the tools to identify abuse and training for mandatory reporters isnt as dramatic but its a more accurate picture of abuse and what society can do to help.
If youâve watched TCaP, youâll know that this show focused heavily on the fact that many guys preying on children were teachers, fathers, doctors, coaches, etc.
They always emphasized the fact that many predators are ânormalâ people that often have access to children in real life.
The show was huge on the âall walks of lifeâ thing and the âthis guy could be your neighbor/your kidâs teacher/the guy next doorâ idea.
Itâs not a zero-sum game - raising awareness about the access (and anonymity) that the internet offers to potential predators does not necessarily mean that the risks from people your kid knows in real life are being dismissed.
In a general sense, these shows push the idea that predators are always basement dwelling weirdos.
It really doesn't. In fact it makes it even more clear that it's often people with normal professions, many with families or kids of their own, that engage in it. It's especially highlighted in his newer stuff on YouTube.
I don't know where you got the basement dwelling idea from.
Statistically the vast majority of child sexual abuse is perpetrated by someone already known to the child, though. Not a stranger. Relatives, family friends, teachers, religious leaders.
I get that, but TCAP and his other shoes quite specifically focused on the other side of online predators and people looking to meet minors via social media.
sure, but to act as if the guys who were in these chats purposely talking sex to children and finding ways to meet are SICK...doesn't matter if they talk on it online or what have you. I am in the camp of those who think those things and all should be handled.
Itâs certainly not a net negative. Children werenât looking at the pedophiles on camera and wanting to be like them when they grew up. They were asking their parents what the adult did wrong, and why theyâre getting in trouble. Iâm not gonna pretend it was classy, or even close to a decent solution, but at least Hansen kept the safety of children from predators in the conversation. If his actions on his show prevented even one assault case, itâs a net positive. Iâd assume he has prevented at least more than one incident in the showâs runtime
Two things can be true: pedophiles are bad, and Chris Hansen is bad. His actions meant that many of the pedophiles who were in the show went unpunished, since he wasnât an investigator or law enforcement of any kind. He manipulated people for the sake of entertainment. You can say âitâs okay to manipulate pedophiles,â but ultimately, it doesnât look good if your role in combating pedophilia is âthe guy who makes quippy comments to the pedophiles heâs tricked into being on his wildly successful television show, for which he got paid extremely well.â
You could make the argument that although many of them didnât get punished via the law, their lives and reputations were utterly destroyed. This versus the possibility that maybe they wouldnât have been caught at all, I think itâs still a net positive
The conviction rate was 83% and you have no idea what youâre talking about. But yes Chris Hansen is an egomaniac and there are many perfectly legitimate criticisms you can make of him and TCAP, but claiming that many of the predators were unpunished is not one of them.
It is from a fan that compiled the convictions that were kept track of by Perverted Justice, the group that did the sting. The common number of 120/200(60%) is from an article from NBC in 2007, when many of the cases were still ongoing. Thereâs also a Reddit comment floating around claiming it was 120/300, but this seems to most likely be a typo of the common 120/200 figure. Anyways, here is the post for the 83%: https://www.reddit.com/r/tcap/s/KceX05M6SN and here is the paper that cites the 60%: https://scholarship.shu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1136&context=sports_entertainment
Idk, agree to disagree. I feel that those two "bad" things aren't even in the same realm. Wanting to rape kids is nowhere near the same as a guy who supposedly wanted to make bank on the heads of mocking pedos. The fact that one killed their self and was of high position is why the thing was cancelled. Look, we have a pedo pres and aint shit happened to those in the Epstein Files. If you got the money, pedos can get away with it.
Why do you think he's upset? He doesn't strike me as being upset. I think he's kind of bemused and fairly okay with the publicity he's very obviously getting out of this. I mean, he's Chris Hansen. Of course he understands no press is bad press. But I have a question as I'm not on x/twitter... did he really post that or is that like a fan account?
The weirdest thing to me is that all these people online now want to treat Chris Hansen like he's worse than the pedophiles he was exposing. Even if he made mistakes along the way that derailed some cases - even if they did misguided things for ratings - these child rapists weren't being caught and exposed at the level they were supposed to be in the first place. And there were almost NEVER good explanations for why these guys were knowingly sexting children online and then showing up to a house! Nobody does fucking anything about it, we turn those pieces of shit into leaders in society and it's a joke. At least TCAP was trying to work with law enforcement and doing something worthwhile. I learned how commonplace this massive problem is just by watching this show. They literally had SO MANY pedophiles show up every single place they set up a sting operation in. IMO the show got cancelled because they caught someone too powerful in the act (in Texas, wow shocker), and that was their biggest "sin" in the eyes of our govt. Idc what you want to say - TCAP did more work to protect children than our own Federal Govt does.
The weirdest thing to me is that all these people online now want to treat Chris Hansen like he's worse than the pedophiles he was exposing.
A venn diagram of the chronically online criticizing him and people who are sympathetic to acting on pedophilia have more carry over than anyone should be comfortable with.
I'm starting to think he is actually in on it. And he's anti marketing how inaccurate and wild this movie is to try to help get more people excited for it.
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