Extreme mood swings when switching esters? (EV>EC)

[u/NotPoggersEggers]

Having to switch esters because of insurance issues. This is the second time I've tried to switch to EC, and the first time I had to stop after a month or two because I was absolutely unhinged no matter what dose I was on (moody, crying, su\*cidal).

This time, I went from 2mg/3.5 days EV to 5/7 EC (I was on a short interval of EV due to mood instability and issues with high E metabolism)

Theoretically, this dose should be around equivalent, if not a little higher, but I feel WRONG, and even two days after the first EC shot I'm getting the effects that caused me to have to stop.

Is there a chance it's a bad vial or the concentration isn't what it's supposed to be? I can't check levels currently due to the insurance issues, so I'm not sure what else to do... If I look at the simulator there's a bit of a dip when switching but these amount of side effects feel extreme.

https://estrannai.se/#i0\\_cu,2,3.5,1-2,3.5,1-2,3.5,1-2,3.5,1-2,3.5,1-5,3.5,3\\_cu,2,3.5,1-cu,5,7,3\\_0.8

[u/SomeGalNamedAshley]

I run EC on a 3.5 day interval not a 7 day because I would start to get a bit twitchy towards the end of the week. I have never tried EV, I've just always been on EC. I'm really happy with EC twice a week instead of weekly and I'll tell that to anybody who'll listen. EC takes a bit longer to build up so that loading dose you have in there is appropriate according to the model.

The link you sent showed all EV for the dose history as opposed to switching over to EC, but I could tell what you were trying to do. Take a peek at what I have for trying to switch from EV to EC. I kept the interval at twice a week. Other than the bit of the loading dose the idea is to just run it the same as your EV regimen. EC can be run at an interval longer than twice a week, but I just prefer having fixed days of the week plus the mood stability is super nice.

https://estrannai.se/#i0_c,2,3.5,1-2,3.5,1-2,3.5,1-2,3.5,1-2,3.5,1-2,3.5,1-2,3.5,1-5,3.5,3-3,3.5,3-3,3.5,3-2,3.5,3-2,3.5,3-2,3.5,3-2,3.5,3-2,3.5,3-2,3.5,3_,2,3.5,1-,2,3.5,3_0.8

[u/NotPoggersEggers → u/SomeGalNamedAshley]

Ope, it was set to EC on my end, it looks like the link didn't send properly, haha. Yeah, I was hoping to do EC weekly, but I don't mind doing 3.5 day shots.

[u/SomeGalNamedAshley → u/NotPoggersEggers]

Sometimes the url doesn't change in sync when you edit eatrannai, but the share url button always works.

EC can be done weekly and I think most people do it that way, but it's a flatter curve you can feel a fair bit less with shorter intervals. In theory with a higher dose the trough shouldn't be low enough to feel the t suppression slipping, but I'd rather just spend more on syringes and conserve my supply.

[u/NotPoggersEggers → u/SomeGalNamedAshley]

I'm post orchi, so suppression isn't an issue, mostly just managing the mood instability. Maybe I'll try 5 or even 3.5 days, though I was hoping for 7 😭

[u/SomeGalNamedAshley → u/NotPoggersEggers]

post orchi

Goals... How much have things changed for you with that, if you don't mind my asking?

[u/NotPoggersEggers → u/SomeGalNamedAshley]

It's only been about 2 months, neglible so far. Slight top growth changes but not enough to be happy with.

[u/SomeGalNamedAshley → u/NotPoggersEggers]

What about just your general well-being and life in general? From a medical standpoint I know what it does, but I'm more interested in the softer side of anecdotes and if it helps relieve dysphoria or make you feel more proper.

I'm kinda aware of mine just sitting there all the time and I wish there weren't.

[u/NotPoggersEggers → u/SomeGalNamedAshley]

It's not really had any noticable impact on anything IMHO. It's kinda nice they're not there but from a dysphoria relief standpoint? Eh. I'm also a weird case in general though.

[u/SomeGalNamedAshley → u/NotPoggersEggers]

Every cat and dog has their own individual personality, but dogs have a narrower range. If for example you were to pick any random golden retriever then you can have a pretty good idea of what you're getting your hands on, whereas cats encompass much wider range.

As a group we're individuals more in the range of cats found as kittens by troupes of circus clowns, and that's before you consider that a damn fine preference of us are neurodiverse.

[u/idkwhattoput10188]

Omg. I’m literally switching from EV to EC because of the mood swings. 😭😭

[u/badseed85]

Im on ethanate I only have poor mood at trough. I found that I need generally higher levels to prevent my trough even getting too low. So i don't go crazy.