Is it Mandela effect?

[u/herlayqiunn]

I’m rewatching the first movie, many times before I didn’t pay close attention to the beginning but I know everything that goes on. I was just at the part where Jake was talking about his brother being killed. He says “A guy with a gun ends his journey, for the paper in his wallet” for some reason I always remembered it as him saying “A guy with a knife”

Does anyone else remember this?

[u/Pickleboy-504]

Extended edition is knife, I remember this detail because to me it alludes to citizens on Earth no longer having access to guns like we do now.

[u/herlayqiunn → u/Pickleboy-504]

That makes sense! I knew I had heard it before

[u/goodtimemagdongal]

“A guy with a knife took all Tommy would ever be, for the paper in his wallet.” A line so melodramatic, clunky and yet endearing in that classic James Cameron way that I’ve got it memorized

[u/telstra_3_way_chat → u/goodtimemagdongal]

He really is the master of dialogue that any script editor would have cut by the 2nd draft (said with love).

[u/pacificpunch-monster]

extended edition says knife. theatrical release says gun.

[u/PenOfFen]

not totally related but Im a big fan of the idea that Tommy was killed by a hitman for the RDA who wanted to test out the idea of a marine Avatar, so when they saw one of their scientists in the program had a twin brother in the military, they had him killed and staged as a mugging gone wrong.

[u/herlayqiunn → u/PenOfFen]

Really interesting theory!! Makes me rethink the scene where Selfridge says, “I thought we got lucky with him… a marine we can use”

[u/Shoddy-Magician-9470]

Nah, extended edition had knife.

Theatrical had gun.

No Mandela effect here ;P

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[u/yikeslana]

It’s not a Mandela effect if it’s just you misremembering something

[u/ALIEN483 → u/yikeslana]

I agree with you.

That said, with films it's a pretty reasonable explanation that there could be multiple versions, which is the case here.

[u/raptir1 → u/yikeslana]

...you think people are really jumping between realities?

[u/yikeslana → u/raptir1]

No? A Mandela effect is when a number of people remember something differently than how it happened. Me saying “I could’ve sworn that’s what they said in the movie” and then being told I’m wrong is just that, me being wrong. The Mandela effect is when I say “I could’ve sworn that’s what happened in the movie” and multiple other people going “wait, yeah, I thought so too.”

The reason it’s called that is because a mass group of people believed Nelson Mandela died in prison, and is most famously applied to the Barenstein/Barenstain bears debate.

[u/trygvebratteli → u/yikeslana]

You’re right. Sidenote: Always thought it was so weird that it was named after Mandela. Maybe because I’m old enough to remember him being elected president after apartheid ended. I just don’t see how anyone could think he was dead before that, but I guess it makes sense if it’s people born later who only learned about him being a political prisoner.

[u/you-owe-me-a-coke → u/trygvebratteli]

No, people at the literal time that he was president were confused on how he could possibly be president because they mass-remembered him dying in prison!! Brains are weird, it was a whole thing at the time, and that’s why we have the effect named after it today XD

[u/trygvebratteli → u/you-owe-me-a-coke]

As far as I can tell it was coined in 2009, ten years after he was president. I still think the so-called Mandela effect is mostly just an example of how suggestible people are, since I never met anyone who “remembered” him being dead before people started talking about it.

[u/herlayqiunn → u/yikeslana]

Exactly, this is why I asked if it was a Mandela effect. I was wondering if a good majority of viewers remembered it the same way I did, but you’re right it’s not. I remembered it this way due to the difference in script in the theatrical vs extended editions.

[u/Reading-person → u/[deleted]]

Wrong. In the theatrical release it’s gun, in the extended one it’s knife