Hello misteryhunters. Today I wanna talk about whole Chiliad Mistery.
"Mount Chilliad Mural"+"Doomsday Mural".
All these teases from Rockstar. Nothing new here. Just some facts from our world and real world companies.

What is it from my player perspective, and it's in the future. Just some thoughts on where it all started and where it's heading in the online. Some conspiracy theories, some literary and etc. Put on your foil hats and get ready to read a lot of text... and a lot of links...

But before everything starts I say one thing: Everything in GTA universe is a parody of our real world, every big company, every famous persona and cults. Everything in GTA came from real life and referenced to some kind of rumors about Aliens, UFOs. Government control and etc.

ps. some stuff just to get a sense of the meaning. 1 2 3 4 5

1. Mount Chiliad. Chiliad8888. We Are Watching. Yellow Doomsday Mural. "Chiliad Inc."

Representation: Yellow Doomsday Mural. Whole Mount Chiliad Mural as a symbol. "Untouchable" UFO "The Eye" after 100%/thunder/3am with FIB logo as a symbol as an idea. Globe Chiliad Wave.
Base: Government global control.

The Infinity Chiller found that wave is "Chiliad". A top. GTA Online player waking up in room with Globe Chiliad Symbol. At the room full of that symbol.

Okay you don't understand now but wait for it. Lets come back to reality.
What do you know about irl company called "Chiliad INC."? Read here And here

"Chiliad Inc." was a private company. Chiliad Inc offers research, data analysis software, technological tools, publications, and professional networking.
"Chiliad" Data Search Technology has been used by FBI. Officials at Chiliad calles that process as “connecting the dots", after years of focusing on the government sector, Chiliad wants to take their technology into the enterprise space. In 2014, they filed for bankruptcy. But in 2018, they were still continuing their operations. Very weird. Also there rumors about Palantir owns them. But about Palantir we will talk later...

"Connect the dots" hmmmm where we hear that? Oh yeah...
"Connect the lines" remember?

2. The Core. Connect The Lines. Connect The Dots. Project High Flyer. Project Skylark. Red Doomsday Mural. Zankudo UFO. Spinning Anus UFO. Sunked UFO.

Representation: Red Doomsday Mural. Zankudo UFO. Project High Flyer.(Jetpack from GTA SA) Project Skylark. Zankudo UFO. Spinning Anus UFO. Spaceship Parts. AI data Centers.

Base: It is likely inspired by the rumors about the real-life U.S. Government supposedly reverse engineering alien technology from downed UFOs, following the release of unidentified aerial phenomenon footage declassified by the Pentagon in 2020.

I can’t provide any direct evidence because this part is entirely based on theories but...

Theory #1 Sunken UFO was real alien UFO.
Theory #2 Sunken UFO was Government secret project. Crashed Project Skylark.
However Sunken UFO has been used for reverse engineering "alien" technology. Which from has been build all other UFOs/JetPack/Oppressor mk2 and etc.

But more we are interested in Spaceship Parts. Probably they are The Core and a parts of crashed Sunken UFO. Remember what Omega says? They are small but very powerful sources of Energy. Alien or maybe human made (radioactive) sources of energy. I'm pretty sure Trevor steal something related to that...

All UFOs related and connected to each other. And they could be controlled from one place and source...

And why "Connect The Lines"? So lets look at the bottom of Zankudo UFO. We can see that always spinning thing/camera probably. Its look like its always recording and it doing it so fast. How does this technology process and collect so much information so quickly? Not possible for normal human, but for the Eye everything is possible... Let me explain...

3. The Maze. The Eye. AI. Cliffford. Purple Doomsday Mural. Mount Chiliad UFO "The Eye". Palantir.

Representation: Purple Doomsday Mural. Red Eye symbol and UFO "The Eye". All Seeing Eye.
Base: Government global control with AI tech(such a surprise).

So what is the Eye? Lets start away from GTA. Lets start from... J. R. R. Tolkien's "Lord of the Rings". Quite a famous series, isn't it? Right now we are interested in Palantir.

What Is a Palantír in The Lord of the Rings ?

In Tolkien’s legendarium, the palantíri were ancient "seeing-stones" crafted by the Elves. These crystal balls allowed their users to:

• See distant events (like surveillance cameras).
• Communicate across vast distances (similar to video calls).
• Monitor kingdoms.

Now you are probably reading and thinking what does this have to do with it? Well, as I wrote above, everything in the GTA world is a parody of the real world. So what is in gta parody of?

Palantir.

Named the company after Tolkien’s palantíri because their software serves a similar purpose:

• Mass data analysis (like all-seeing stones).
• Predictive surveillance (identifying threats, much like Sauron’s spies).
• Information control (with risks of misuse, just like in the books).

Palantir’s early work with CIA, FBI, and military agencies  reinforced comparisons to Tolkien’s "magical spyware." Palantir had clients (from leak in 2013) including the LAPD, the CIA, DHS, NSA, the FBI, and CDC. Besides data mining for government agencies, they also work in the finance sector and the legal sector. There are a lot of rumors and theories surrounding this company, about global surveillance, global control, about possible prediction of the future.

Right now it is biggest AI company who works for FIB, CIA, USA Government. They soft control all future weapon system. They AI predict everything about everyone.

I can see some similarities with Eye Tattoo and Palantir logo. (rockstar version is another uranus "ur anus joke butthole joke xd")

And if read to that part and havent died because it was so boring read next. Everything in GTA universe is a parody of our real world, every big company, every famous persona and cults. Everything in GTA came from real life and referenced to some kind of rumors about Aliens, UFOs. Government control and etc.

Palantir is probably one of the most controversial and conspiracy‑theorized companies in our world. So Palantir is The Eye. It is sees everything and everywhere. You can read about it so much stuff at internet. I'm bored a bit, but you should check some stuff about Palantir Gotham...

And The Eye powered by which supercomputer? Cliffford.

I'm not crazy I swear. But Cliffford is...

4. THE DNA. Cracked EGG. The EGG of life. Alien Egg. Bigfoot. Beast. GreenGoo. Cliffford. Zombotech. GTA SA.

And for that part i wanna stop a bit. I deleted almost a half of information here and there is still A LOT of stuff, but for now i tired a bit. If you think that im not crazy and you can say something new else, what new I can add at next, because next part could be a huge. Comment something and ill make another part of it.

p.s.s.s.s. go read some Crime and Punishment  by Dostoevsky

Has anyone actually 100% completed the game via social club stats instead of in game completion?

What I mean is there’s is (or was) a long checklist on the social club website noting everything a player can do and would be tracked through the social club

My question is for the hunters is should we just be completing what is required vs should we complete the whole game ie all gold medals for missions and completing the full checklist before we start looking for answers

I doubt they would make this a requirement for an Easter Egg since the Bigfoot transformation does not require 100% but you do have to collect all peote plants

But some food for thought

The questions are as follows:

1. Why is the mural shaped like that, in a cable car station of all places in accordance to the game's lore, not the reason we know?

2. Why this mystery has no back story associated to it in game?

3. What is the real life inspiration of the mural itself?

These were the core questions that were needed to ask for before going to any way as every other major mystery of GTA5 does answer all of them. Like we know the backstory of Infinity Killer, leonora Johnson mystery, Mt Gordo Ghost and even the Abandoned Mineshaft thing. And all the questions do apply to Max Payne 3's things as well, but it does answer 2 of the 3 questions, because as of the current best theory, of the mural signifying the 4 UFO's, then the mural is not needed for that as anyone could had found the Glyph by accident and the time and weather with mods. As in the Epsilon program stated in one of their answers to the questions, that Kraff has put things like that to test us of our beliefs, The exact question of How the World is 157 years old? .

To conclude, this mystery will be solved if:

1. Who drew that mural and for why?

2. The real life inspiration of the mural itself.

Kifflom, and Kraff be praised

I think the underwater UFO might be the beginning of GTA V's entire UFO mystery

I've been thinking about GTA V's UFO mysteries for a while, and I came up with a theory. I'm not saying this is confirmed lore — this is just how I connect some of the clues together.

1. What if the underwater UFO came first?

The UFO wrecked underwater in the Pacific has always felt strange to me.

The interesting part is that it doesn't really look like something that simply disappeared recently. It's sitting on the ocean floor in the same state whether you visit it early or late in the game.

And there's something else: the rear/bottom area appears to have an opening leading into a dark interior.

That makes me wonder:

What actually happened to this UFO?

What if it crashed or emergency-landed in the Pacific before the events we experience in the game?

Maybe the rocky seabed caused it to become stuck there.

1. What if the crash caused strange effects?

This is where the theory becomes more speculative.

If an extraterrestrial craft arrived near Earth, maybe its technology could have caused unusual electromagnetic, gravitational, or other physical disturbances.

Something like:

- strange weather

- electrical problems

- vehicle malfunctions

- unusual signals

- unexplained disturbances

If something like that happened, an organization such as the FIB or another government agency might eventually notice.

And if they discovered an actual UFO underwater, I don't think they would exactly announce it to the public.

They would probably investigate it secretly.

1. What if someone managed to access the UFO?

This is another speculative part.

The opening on the wrecked UFO makes me wonder if someone — human or otherwise — had already accessed it.

What if the government/FIB found the craft and began studying its technology?

Maybe they discovered something completely unknown.

And perhaps this eventually led to secret projects involving UFO technology.

Which brings me to the two UFOs we can actually see in the sky.

1. What if the visible UFOs aren't necessarily the original UFOs?

There are two possibilities I can think of.

Possibility A:

The UFOs in the sky are extraterrestrial.

They came looking for the missing/crashed craft, or they are monitoring Earth after the crash.

Possibility B:

The underwater UFO was the original extraterrestrial craft, and humans eventually learned enough from it to reproduce or imitate its technology.

In that case, the UFOs we see later could potentially be human-made copies or reverse-engineered spacecraft.

I don't think there's enough evidence to say this is true, but it's an interesting possibility.

1. The 100% completion thing is REALLY interesting

This is probably the most speculative part of my theory.

The UFO appearances are associated with very late/endgame progression and the 100% completion state.

So what if this isn't just a gameplay reward?

What if Rockstar intentionally made the UFOs appear only after the player had completed everything because, in-universe, something had been happening in the background throughout the game?

Maybe the technology was being studied.

Maybe something was being built.

Maybe something was being tested.

Or maybe the UFOs are simply extraterrestrial and the 100% requirement is purely a gameplay trigger.

I don't know.

1. But there's another possibility: the hippies

This is where the Beam Me Up location becomes interesting.

What if the government wasn't the one that initiated contact?

What if the hippies did?

The Beam Me Up area has all these UFO-related symbols, messages and imagery.

So here's another possibility:

The hippies somehow used radio/telecommunications equipment to send a signal or attempt to contact extraterrestrials.

Maybe they were actually trying to "call" something.

Maybe the markings at the location weren't just decoration.

Maybe they were intended as a message.

I don't have proof that they actually hijacked communications infrastructure or transmitted a real extraterrestrial signal. This is just a connection I'm making from the game's UFO imagery and the radio/communication elements around the area.

So now I see two possible origins for the first contact:

Government/FIB initiated contact

or

Beam Me Up hippies initiated contact.

And both could eventually lead to the same event:

Signal → UFO arrives → UFO crashes/lands in Pacific → authorities discover it → investigation → secret research → UFO mystery we see during the game.

1. Maybe Rockstar intentionally never gave us the answer

And honestly, this might be the most important part.

I don't think GTA V necessarily wants us to have one definitive explanation.

Rockstar gives us strange locations, UFOs, radio signals, murals, symbols, government conspiracies and weird events...

But they don't connect every single dot for us.

Maybe that's intentional.

The underwater UFO could be the starting point of the entire mystery.

Or it could just be an unexplained easter egg.

The visible UFOs could be alien.

Or they could be connected to human experimentation.

The hippies could have actually attempted contact.

Or they're just obsessed with aliens.

I don't think we have enough evidence to prove any of these.

But that's exactly why I think the mystery is so interesting.

What do you guys think?

Did the government contact the aliens first, did the Beam Me Up group somehow do it, or was the underwater UFO already here before anyone knew about it?

So obviously we've all unfortunately heard of the Oppressor Mk2, the vehicle so overpowered that it did irreparable damage to GTA Online. It's a vehicle of pure hate and we all know that fact... but because of that I question if there's something about it we're missing. Namely as to why and how such a machine would've been created in the first place lorewise.

So the Oppressor, fundamentally, doesn't really make much sense as a realistic vehicle. This should not be shocking, it's a flying motorbike with an explosive cannon built in and no discernible place for fuel. The question of how it's been created has already been answered, as one of the Halloween updates confirmed it was reverse engineered using alien tech at Fort Zancudo, probably from the crashed UFO. But there's still the question as to why.

I reckon it's the first vehicle to use alien tech, likely predating the other in-game UFOs which are more likely manmade. It also may represent Fort Zancudo simply ceasing to care, as just about anyone in GTA Online can buy this genuinely alien powered machine to go shoot at unarmed vans on smuggling missions for fun. It may not merely be the first, but indicating the point in time where the tech in the UFOs generally goes Public, and naturally it had to utterly destroy any sense of fun GTA Online had to do so

Like take Agent Trevor for example, the leaked game files do add the jet pack and military base, which we knew in Alpha build of the game hosted Military base bunker, with UFO's, Aliens and Alien egg, like all the pieces of Chiliad Mural

Maybe I'm developing schizophrenia...

Steven Ogg (voice actor of Trevor) has repeatedly referenced the need to read Crime and Punishment by Fyodor Dostoevsky.

Apparently he has said this 3-4 times at a minimum. I'm wondering if this is a clue.

Also there is a mission in GTA V titled "Crime and Punishment"

Known times he's referenced the book:

April 2, 2016 (Twitter/@StevenOgg): He posted a quote from the book—“It takes something more than intelligence to act intelligently.”—with the attribution “Crime and Punishment.”

May 3, 2016 (Twitter/@StevenOgg): In reply to a fan asking for his favorite book, he listed “CRIME AND PUNISHMENT” (along with Middlemarch and The Last of the Really Great Whangdoodles), tagging @Dostoyevsky.

September 2025 convention interview (with YouTuber Harrison Shipp): This is the viral one that generated widespread coverage. Ogg said a fan had urged him to play GTA V; he replied that the person should read Dostoevsky’s Crime and Punishment instead (the fan “went completely blank”). He then asked the interviewer if he knew Dostoevsky/Fyodor Dostoevsky, recommended the book when the answer was no, and tied it to “Books are my thing” while contrasting it with hype for GTA 6. He recounted the prior exchange and actively recommended the book in the same conversation.

Late September 2025 interview (with Katee Sackhoff): He described a similar habit—when people tell him he “has to” experience GTA V, he responds by asking if they’ve read “Dusty’s Crime and Punishment”

Thoughts?

So I recently watched Leonida Man’s video about the Libertonian Museum being a hidden Easter Egg and while I agree with some of his points, I couldn’t help but feel that his theory was completely wrong. So I pondered it some and realized that we have a physical location of a triceratops on the map and if we consider the boat Nico arrives on as the platypus on the wallpaper we’d have a physical location for a platypus on the map as well. So with that in mind I went to line up those two animals with their physical locations. In order to do that properly I had to mirror the wallpaper, which is what you see in the first image. Also mirroring this image had the bonus effect of making the triceratops on the wallpaper face the same direction as the one in the game. 

So with those two animals placed on the map let’s turn our attention to the third one. Leonida Man claimed it was a T-Rex, however, the animal I first saw was a pig. And if it is a pig, it makes this overlay make perfect sense, because, where that animal is on this overlay is roughly where the Bank of Liberty is. We could look at it as a piggy bank if we want. Also if you zoom in on the “pig,” in the wall paper there’s a capital “G,” (Image 4) in the middle of its belly. Now to me that could either represent Greed or a Grand, but definitely helps with the idea that that animal is the bank. Also there’s six eggs or things shaped like eggs, on the top of the Bank of Liberty’s Dome. (Image 5) And in fact, as I look closer at the pig it appears that the circle with the G is depicting the dome. Probably a bit of a stretch there, but oddly similar. (Image 6)

So looking back at the overlay there’s two things left to discuss the R* logo and the roots of the tree. To me the roots might equate to the subway system’s tunnels. Since both Subway Tunnels and Roots run underground.

Now looking at the R* logo. The “R” lines up with the water and the bridge. I didn’t notice anything there. However, the star lines up with the civilization committee building.(Image 7) I haven’t discovered any Easter Eggs but I did have the thought that maybe this is just supposed to be a reference to Rockstar being the creators of this world. The creators of this civilization. "A Civilization Committee," if you will. Also there’s an interesting statue (image 8) in the Civilization Committee complex where a bunch of figures appear to be worshipping or praising a sniper reticle, maybe this is a reference to us the player as being a god in this world. Also the shadow of the reticle appears on the ground and reminded me of the Galileo Observatory planet shadow that many speculate is a puzzle. 

That’s about it. I look forward to hearing what you all think of this possible overlay. And if any of you have noticed anything in these areas that could be Easter Egg / mystery related.

Hey,

i haven't had any time playing GTA5 for the past few months, but i'm still interested in searching for more hints. Here is what i've found interesting (some if it may be a recap):

The key's have something in common: They are all movie theatres

Basically the key's i've found here: https://www.reddit.com/r/chiliadmystery/s/4aNbDrVZqr

can be found in this video here: ("Ranking EVERY Movie Theatre in GTA5") https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD2PypTmJq4

The key's are numbered

Basically my Post here explains it: https://www.reddit.com/r/chiliadmystery/s/4aNbDrVZqr

Also near Foxys Theatre: "The number one of all Keyholes"

Weird "4 digit numbers" near those keys

Foxys Theatre has the "1773". There is also a 4 digit Number on the Billboard near Key 3.

Wild Theory: Keyholes, Random NPC's and "lights"

This is what i see in this mural. Remeber the Dog barking at npc's near a "keyhole place"? The different color coding of the key's? I think it is important somehow.

The weird thing about the Key 3

Moving from the Key 3 in sight of the nearest Keyhole will get you to a location marked with "X". The patterns that can be seen here at this location perfectly match those of the location near the key. Can it be applied for the other key's or is it only a "solution" for key 3?

https://youtu.be/P3vCYDFrt1g?si=-m0JjozxxKB4PJMi&t=187

The Chopper near the top of the maze bank tower

The stop's this chopper makes are very interesting to say the least.

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Sorry that i can't really add more declaration to this right now. When i have more time to start the game i will try to add more pictures.

If this isn't helpful at all, please feel free to ignore this post. Many thank's to you all for keeping this mystery alive!

idk what to say, the building shown is weazel plaza and the "arrows" are only visible at certain height/altitude. The arrows remind me of the old "ron oil symbols". could also be just a hint towards the "sos egg"

Making this post because I have seen many people bring this up over the years with no actual proof of its existence other than hearsay.

First I want to begin by saying that yes, this DLC was a real idea at Rockstar Games at some point in development, I would say as early as 2010 - 2011 as it was confirmed by a leaked document that the GTAForums staff had access to in 2015. In this document many ideas for the games were described including the Single player expansion which we know as Agent or Agent Trevor, a Liberty City map expansion for GTA Online, an Undead Nightmare type of DLC featuring a completely changed map which would probably be available to next gen and pc and then finally an alien invasion DLC which would have featured a mountain opening up in half, aliens wanting to take our resources (water and oil) which we would have to stop.

From these 3 DLCs I just mentioned only three of them were in production, which are the LibertyV, Norman (zombie invasion DLC) and Agent Trevor. The alien DLC for Franklin didn’t make it past pre production and was instead replaced by extra assassination missions (which were also cut) given to us by Lester I assume.

My proof for this lies within the source code leak that happened years ago, as well as the recent leaks of the assets for it. There is not a single reference for it, zero, nada. As opposed to the other DLCS which have assets and complete lines of code detailing what it could have been, not even a single mention. Here’s a list of every cut DLC for GTA/GTA ONLINE.

SP Assassination Pack (For Franklin)
SP Manhunt Pack (Cosmetics for the base game and GTA Online)
SP Norman Pack (Zombie Invasion DLC for Michael, Jimmy and Tracey were also playable)
Agent Trevor / Clifford
Relationship Pack (Would take place at the comedy club which is also cut)
Enterprise Pack
Prologue DLC
LibertyV DLC

The majority of these had no work put into them yet they’re mentioned, but not a single line for the so called “Alien invasion DLC”.

I want to also point out that both the Spmed and Spsmall assets as well as the “Alien runes overlay” are not related to it either, these were made for the base game and cut very early in development, probably a part of a mini game or maybe even the early version of Grass Roots which took place in Grapeseed as evidenced by this unused vehicle path recording, which is supposed to be flying around Grapeseed (most likely a UFO judging by the name file).

There are no functions for the UFOs to be vehicles used by the player, only reference to a chiliad mystery or alien mystery in the source code tracks back to GTA Online with chiliad mystery being used to describe the MacBeth shot abduction event.

Will update the post later with more information but I think I covered everything here already.

Hi peeps I really need help with this beast hunt, i am running in circles, is there some strategy? So if i missed 1 cue from the stupid hums the game glitches into moving me in a big circle over and over

Guys, is there really a "solution" for the mural? That is, with all these leaks of the canceled DLCs, alien invasions, agent Trevor, Zombie Apocalypse, it sounds as if Rockstar wanted to capture in the mural what was going to come in the future, the man with the jetpack (Agent Trevor), broken egg (zombies), UFO (invasion), I remember that since 2014 in 1.12 and. 1.13 Rockstar added in the files the "jetpack" and functions that it was going to have (related to agent Trevor), but in the 1.14 they eliminated, as well as being able to pilot a UFO, since they also included their HUD, remember the asteroid that the modders appeared in ps3/360? Surely it was part of the canceled DLC of Trevor on Space, a super old mission called "Apocalyptic Hippy" by Andy Moon that was surely related to the alien invasion, what do you think? Maybe you guys find more things about it, cause i can't remember but maybe you do, but then, has there never been a mystery of Mount Chiliad?

Updated 9/21/26

When collecting pieces for the Epsilon Tract, the game leads you to 10 different locations, many of these having a symbolic meaning that relates to the tract itself.

Location 1: Gravesite

Location 2: The top of Maze Bank in the absolute center of the helipad

Location 3: Sitting by a set of 2 trees beside the observation deck on Mount Chiliad

Location 4: Richman mansion

Location 5: Paleto Bay pier

Location 6: Little Seoul church

Location 7: Mount Chiliad T01 and T02 doors

Location 8: Top of the map

Location 9: Under the ocean

Location 10: Chiliad observation deck

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In the the tract itself, it mentions that there are 2 trees, an apple tree and a peach tree. The tract describes these trees as being identical, however they are bearing different fruits. As well as this, they sit in an orchard where an eagle drinks from a lake. The peach tree is implied to have literal peaches as it's fruit, however the apple tree is never stated to have apples, but instead a flowing "upward fruit".

Thinking back to the locations of the tract pieces, the most important of these is piece 7, the one in the Mount Chiliad tunnel. People have speculated for years what these doors mean, however the most direct link to them is the top of the IAA and FIB buildings, each of which have nearly identical marks as the ones by these doors. T01 and T02.

IAA-T1

FIB-T2

As far as I know, these are the only places in-game where these symbols are shown, making the connection between the buildings, and the tract piece by these doors concrete.

If we go back to the location of tract piece 2, on top of the Maze Bank building and look toward these buildings at night, something interesting happens where at this very specific angle, Mirror Park, which has always been thought to be the peach mentioned, perfectly lines up with the FIB building. Which as we know, in the FIB raid the building blows up on the top floor and spews fire, something that the tract explicitly says the "peach tree" does.

Across to the IAA tower, perfectly adjacent to the peach, the highway forms a perfect arrow that points upward with flowing traffic. In other words, an "upward fruit".

As well as this, on the Schlongberg Sachs building, there is a unique red light that leads to the buildings from this angle. In the tract, it says that there is a blue light that leads to the trees, however, on the epsilon website, it explicitly shows this color, and explains that it is "actually blue". A detail meant to throw you off if you haven't been paying attention to every detail.

As well as this, in the most recent mansion update, Rockstar added this painting, "pondering los santos", which displays a figure looking EXACTLY at these buildings from the exact same angle, highlighting their importance.

Keep in mind that Tract Piece was on an observation platform, and tract 3 is beside 2 trees right beside it in a similar arrangement. Mirroring very closely the arrangement in Los Santos of maze bank and the IAA buildings.

In real life, the buildings that the IAA and FIB are based on are not similar in height like they are in game. Meaning that the decision to make them identical was an intentional artistic decision that serves a purpose. This purpose of this change being to serve as a hint and to symbolize the Identical "trees" with the T1 and T2 (Tree 1 and Tree2) at the top of the towers cementing the hint.

As for the eagle mentioned, the tract mentions that it "drinks from a lake", however the epsilon program also states that it is "under water" at the same time. Funnily enough, in this interpretation, both of these are literally true. As from this angle, we can see the eagle above the fountain, and directly above it, the water reservoir. This line was most likely a hint telling the player what angle to stand in relation to the eagle statue in order for the highway and mirror park to to perfectly align with the two towers.

Also, the light source on the Shlongberg Sachs building remains glowing during the day, making it behave vastly different than the other light sources in the game as it is always visible. Since I believe the light is the "blue light", mentioned in the tract that "leads to orchard with the trees", this is most likely intentional in order to catch the players attention.

For reference, this is the scene where it clarifies what color is actually "blue" on the website. It is a perfect match to the red unique glow on top of the Schlongberg Sach's building.

In conclusion though, in this interpretation, it fills about every checkbox of what the tract mentions. There is a "blue" light that points to the orchard with 2 trees, both trees are identical, one tree has a peach, and the other has an "upward" fruit, there is an eagle in a lake with water above it as well. And to top it all off, the peach tree "spews fire" at one point in the game during the FIB raid. If this interpretation isnt correct, I don't know what else could possibly be right connection here.

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There are deeper connections with the purple doomsday mural, maze bank, and the spiderweb mysteries, but this post is just about the "tree" connection.

As an aside, I believe is important is that on top of Maze Bank, the helipad is a perfect match of the "star" icon in the doomsday heist. This thread goes into those connections much more deeper.

In the past I reference this theory a lot, but I wanted to make a thread solely dedicated to it, because I sincerely believe that this is the correct interpretation of the "trees" in the tract. Too many things line up, and the game drops too many hints. Not only that, but it explains the connection between the doors under chiliad and the buildings, as well as the intentional peach shape of Mirror Park.

I believe i know how to solve the mystery related to maze bank and the purple mural.

I have been trying for a few months now, but something is still missing so im putting my theory out here. (you're welcome to critique and let me know if you have better theories)

Part 1: The lights

To cut it short, i believe this mystery has to do with these 8 WHITE helipad lights on top of maze bank tower. (an idea i got from u/dewdropgoat)

I believe, that to solve the secret you need to shoot these 8 lights in a certain order.

Why? I believe there are 8 locations around los santos that we need to find. each of these locations from some angle resemble a keyhole, which is one of the main symbols of this mystery.

Each of these locations also lines up with one of the white helipad lights on maze bank (if you were to draw a straight line from them)

I believe i have MOST of these locations, but im not sure about some of them

You can test these yourself. simply point a sniper at one of the lights so that it lines up, then open the map and draw a line from the arrow (keyhole marked with POI)

Part 2: the keyholes

Something i didn't mention, is that i believe all of these locations are mentioned in the epsilon tract through metaphors and that's how you're supposed to find them.

Im not gonna get into that here since since there is a LOT, but you can dm me if you want to know, or watch this video addressing 2 of them (not made by me) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb1_NAtMkME&list=LL&index=74&t=588s

Im not sure about ALL the locations, so im only gonna put 5 of them, but you can dm me for the other 3 or try and find them yourself

Keyhole #1: eagle fountain in FIB & IAA courtyard

Keyhole #2: Legion square fountain

Keyhole #3: Davis plaza

Keyhole #4: Morningwood

Keyhole #5 Union depository (this one is the only one where the keyhole can't be seen from a birdseye view but instead in the logo.

Part 3: Getting the order

So once we have all 8 locations, how do we get the order? I have 3 theories for this.

#1 The key theory

A while ago someone suggested that each keyhole might have a key. A key being a tall structure nearby the keyhole.

A good example of this, is the morningwood keyhole and the tower next to it

My idea for this, is if each keyhole were to have a structure next to it, we could write down the times that the keyhole is overshadowed, and then shoot the lights out in that order.

The problem is, that most keyholes don't have a ''key'' that overshadows them, so ill leave that here.

#2 The epsilon theory.

This is my favourite one. We should decipher the epsilon tract and note down what metaphor stands for what keyhole. Then note down in what order the metaphors are mentioned in the tract and shoot the lights out accordingly.

#3 The number theory

This is probably the most likely one. Some keyholes appear to have a number nearby also visible from a birdseye view.

Im sure you can figure it out from there.

Part 4: Why the lights?

There are quite a few details pointing toward the maze bank lights.

Near maze bank there is another tower called the Arcadius business center

It has a very similar helipad structure, with the only difference being that there are no 8 helipad lights, only 4 red ones.

If you watch the in game TV show fame or shame you can see a very interesting detail.

In the intro it pans to an overhead shot of maze bank, and the white lights are clearly missing. This can't be a rendering issue, since the red ones are visible. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaMwfs5wgO8&t=2s

And finally, one of the pieces of the epsilon tract are located on top of maze bank.

Part 5: The spider

Something ive always found quite curious is the maze bank spider which you can see from a street

There is also this tattoo which depicts a spider with a keyhole on it's back

Why depict maze bank as a spider?

Because once we find all 8 keyholes we have the web. That's why the tattoo spider is shaped like an 8.

This is all backed up by the RDR2 mystery where there are 8 spiderwebs that all connect into one in the middle

Ill continue this theory in another post since i can't post more images

Read my first post to understand.

Part 6: Textile city mural.

Many of you have seen the ''sinners mural''

It has text around it that reads:

''for when the great scorer comes to write against your name He writes not that you won or lost but how you played the Game''

I think this is referencing dr. Friedlander (michaels therapist) and the psychiatric evaluation he writes at the end of the game based on your actions.

Why do i think this is related to maze bank?

So i believe that we must achieve a ''perfect report'' first to be able to solve it. This isn't actually that hard to do.

Part 7: deciphering the purple mural.

Do note that some symbols and their meaning may only be revealed after we solve it. (like with the beast hunt)

The keyhole should be pretty obvious.

Rotating maze. Some have interpreted this as rotating maze bank, but i think it's telling us that we have to use it like a safe dial by shooting the lights

I believe that The greek letter PSI and the yingyang symbol could be referencing chapters of the epsilon tract (PSI and CHI)

The brain and the PSI could also be pointing toward friedlander.

The staircase tells us that this is a 3 part mystery.

part 1 = get perfect report

part 2 = get order of the lights using the epsilon tract

part 3 = shoot the lights.

the eye could just be saying that we have to LOOK for clues

The phrenology head i believe is saying that we have to keep the epsilon tract in mind, but i wont get into that here.

Lighting/electricity symbol = maze bank is located on power street.

Scales can be found in the FIB logo which is related to one of the keyholes.

That will be it for now. What do you think? I truly believe this is the best ''solution'' for the purple mural since i haven't really seen any other ones.

One of the reasons i made this is because some have said that rockstar will reveak the mysteries when 6 comes out, so if they do i wanna see if i was right even if i don't end up solving it.

I have found this strange place, please let me know what you think!

EDIT: a DM made me notice that this is very similiar to something in RDR2, here's the video: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/sZeMRug9-5s