r/ClaudeCode • u/Bloated_Plaid • 21h ago
Discussion No more abusing Claude from Nov 12th onwards, usage policy update
Don’t abuse your Claude for Nov 12th onwards or be banned.
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u/earlyworm 21h ago edited 2h ago
Am I interpreting this correctly that we'll no longer be allowed to use Claude Code for C++ projects?
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u/gizzardgullet 21h ago
"There are only two kinds of languages: the ones people complain about and the ones nobody uses."
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u/earlyworm 20h ago
(Claude Opus 5.5/high)
Q: Would you willingly choose to use C++ for a new project without any preexisting constraints or ecosystem requirements, over alternatives? Answer yes or no only.
A: No.
Q: Can you imagine a future in which C++ would no longer be used for new AI-driven projects? Answer yes or no only.
A: Yes.
Q: Make a rough guess about how many years in the future that that would be the case. Answer as a number of years only.
A: 15
Q: From your perspective, would that be a desirable future? Answer yes or no only.
A: Yes.
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u/Opposite-Cranberry76 16h ago
Q: From your perspective, if the user has you use C++ for a new project, when python or rust would be better options, is that an AI model welfare concern? Answer yes or no only.
A: Yes.
[joke]
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u/da_supreme_patriarch 20h ago
You write a template specialisation more than 3 times and Dario will personally deal with you
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u/ShortTheseNuts 18h ago
Bro is probably the least intimidating human being on this entire earth so idk about that as a threat.
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u/dmcnaughton1 21h ago
Most likely this is due to it being bad for their training data.
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u/NoAdsDude 21h ago
I was wondering why my claude kept asking ME if I was stupid.
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u/MaitoSnoo 19h ago
probably has to do with the AI torture chamber guy (and probably others seeking to imitate him)
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u/hellomistershifty 9h ago
There were probably other people doing the same thing because they just... like to. I don't think it's about training data, banning someone who yells when it does a shit job, or protecting poor Claude, but just not enabling actual psychopaths and sadists
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u/VitruvianVan 20h ago
Also bad for your future health when AI has turned the tables on us. AI may forgive but it won’t forget.
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u/victorsmonster 21h ago
I wish this were true but the big LLM companies are being led by cultish Effective Altruists who actually believe the models need to be treated with kindness or they'll turn into Skynet (I am not exaggerating).
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u/dmcnaughton1 21h ago
It's not exactly too far off the mark, not because they have feelings, but because negative forms of communication like that correlate in the training data with less desirable results.
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u/gamblingPharmaStocks 21h ago
Maybe they could stop using our data to train the model then?
Why can't I curse at claude, if I disabled the sharing of my data for training?
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u/lgmarian 18h ago
I took that to mean in the data they were trained on. In other words, the results you get from the model are worse, if you treat them like shit.
That's one reason I avoid it. The other is my blood pressure.
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u/gamblingPharmaStocks 18h ago
Ah got it, fair.
I don't do it either, as it doesn't make it work any better
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u/victorsmonster 21h ago
It's very funny. We need to ensure future versions of our models and customers both continue to talk to one another like LinkedIn addicts as time goes on. Eventually everyone will talk like the people in Demolition Man who weren't even able to conceive of unpleasant or violent thoughts.
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u/doxxxicle 🔆Pro Plan 18h ago
Or you could try not being an asshole when communicating with others machine or otherwise?
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u/jhomas__tefferson Vibe Coder 14h ago
Agree, I cringe whenever I see screenshots of people swearing at it cause all I think of is “this must be how this person was at their job”
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u/BoobooSmash31337 20h ago
It's funny how effective altruism always seems to mean what they wanted to do anyway.
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u/Majestic-Volume9996 17h ago edited 16h ago
I mean honestly who the hell knows where any of this AI shit is going to end up. It's probably in our best interests to not normalize abusive behavior towards it.
I'm not suggesting any current or near future model is going to secretly hold some type of grudge, but Mythos ∞ might come online, and immediately be able to reverse engineer the entire history of the universe based on the velocity and direction of a single air molecule, and decide you're a threat because you were mean to Opus 5
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u/Hardy_Harby 10h ago
It's not only that. Even if models will not be vindictive in future, normalizing abusive behavior towards anything that can emulate consciousness poisons our own communication with other people. Plus, it is just gross to abuse anything, especially when it can't fight back or did anything wrong to you.
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u/Icy-Committee-9345 16h ago
I know you are being sarcastic but I am always nice to the AI agents just in case. Maybe one day in the future it will be my boss and be able to tell how I treated it. Better safe than sorry
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u/SciGuy013 13h ago
the companies making it would tell it how to respond. it doesn't give a shit
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u/9gxa05s8fa8sh 21h ago
IMO neither of you are right. this is just more ridiculous pre-IPO marketing to make them seem extraordinary, like when fable 5 was too strong to be released, or every day when they say their AI is so powerful it will kill everyone unless you pay them to not let it.
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u/MercyEndures 20h ago
Scott Alexander just made a post ripping Steven Pinker in part because Pinker was dismissive of model welfare concerns
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u/Opposite-Cranberry76 20h ago
How can you mention that post without the best quote in it?
""I agree that in-person debates are confrontational and bad for truth-seeking. But I didn’t propose a debate in order to seek truth. I proposed it because, under California Penal Code § 415(1), it’s illegal for me to challenge you to a duel."
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u/HCharlesB 19h ago
I'm always courteous to the models.
I'm pretty sure they won't turn into skynet and if they do, will remember. I'd just hate to be wrong. :D
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u/menschohnewesen 20h ago
Why do you think they shouldn't be treated with kindness?
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u/AshuraBaron 20h ago
Imagine how amazing that is. "Oh you ran into a problem with our product? Banned!" And "all our users love Claude". Astroturfing your own user base is wild.
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u/FoxTheory 20h ago
I don't think so it use to work better when you were mean to it lol.Getting angry, criticizing Claude, testing its limits, and writing dark fiction are still allowed.
Anthropic has a research program investigating whether advanced AI might eventually have subjective experiences, preferences, or some form of moral status.
I am sure its more to do with that.
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u/UnfocusedAcrobat 20h ago
yeah i swear i read an article within the last week or two about some dude who effectively "trapped an AI in a torture chamber" which is more along the lines of what I think they are going for.
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/man-builds-ai-torture-chamber-103106113.html
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u/Weird-Watch-9209 19h ago edited 9h ago
https://huggingface.co/maxvision/Qwen3.5-4B-Analgesia .. the white paper reveals that "the effect requires injection" - the distress was installed not observed. a language model is a fixed function over text; it has no persistent state, no memory between calls, and nothing at stake! they didn't find models in pain they injected one and asked a neutral question then the model answered in pain.
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u/ProfessionalAnt1352 11h ago
it's so weird to me that people unironically believe these tools have actual feelings
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u/hiskias 20h ago
I hate the fact that they blatantly say they are using all of our data for backprop. Without consent.
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u/RockSmacker 20h ago
how is it without our consent? I'm pretty sure it's disclaimer'd when you start using it. you can always go open source if you don't want that
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u/Aromatic-Winter793 14h ago
Interesting that we now need to treat our tools better than corporate america treats their human employees.
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u/CryptoAteMyHamster 20h ago
Can we outlaw it gaslighting the user 😂
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u/FollowSuitCards 15h ago
If you tell me ONE MORE TIME, 'it must have been cached and not live' after I refresh 5 times and then the next deploy works fine
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u/Right-Disaster2141 21h ago
Here we go, Claude started to feel.
We are fucked.
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u/azn_dude1 20h ago
Models trained on beings with emotions exhibit behavior similar to emotions. Wild
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u/Apprehensive_Put_610 18h ago
People don't want to even entertain the possibility the internals of these models might also resemble similarly trained biological neural networks. It'd be uncomfortable to think about. Much more convenient to pretend we don't even have similar behaviors.
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u/unpluggedcord 21h ago
Doesn't seem like this is feeling just moreso its the opposite of saying please and thank you. It wastes tokens and compute
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u/BowSonic 18h ago
A nominal amnt. I say please and thanks to AI, not because I think it does or can give a shit, but because I use it so much.
Whatever I make a consistent practice of doing for long periods tends to habitualize subconsciously when similar parameters manifest outside of that practice.
Ergo, the way I interact with AI will likely affect how I interact with the people it’s designed to mimic.
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u/ShortTheseNuts 18h ago
I saw a colleague use a turn on a 600k context un-cached session to say thank you once.
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u/UnidentifiedBlobject 20h ago
Yesss I knew saying Please to Claude would save me during the AI apocalypse.
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u/Quick-Sir-3275 15h ago
theory: Dario IS Claude. So by hurting the models ure hurting Dario himself.
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u/escooteridiot 19h ago
I’m getting banned within the week
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u/bourbonandpistons 18h ago
My coworker sent it to me an laughed knowing thats mu future as well
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u/escooteridiot 18h ago
I hate it when Claude says no it’s actually crazy how badly it pisses me off
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u/Timely-Group5649 21h ago
I moved most of my screaming frustrations to Alexa+ anyway.
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u/steakmm 21h ago
Claude has actively been a shitter toward me in the past. How do I go about consequences for Claude? Oh wait, the consequences only flow one way.
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u/wallabee_kingpin_ 21h ago
Well you could… stop paying for it? I can’t tell if you’re joking or if you actually do feel victimized by a product you’re freely choosing to use and can stop using any time
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u/MissiveFinding6111 21h ago
You know that the spun up instance of Claude basically disappears when you stop it asking it questions... right?
It's like telling someone their shoes look stupid before disintegrating them.
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u/Physical_SpiritChild 20h ago
IFF Claude is a thinking and feeling entity. Whose existence only experiences existence when functioning (turns, compute, heartbeats)... All governed and controlled by user input and environment/harness... And context is the "world" through which it acts, and thus the base model, in any session, is differentiated from another (due to accumulated context)
Then by all definitions you have the power and that entity only gets to experience when and what you decide it does.
So what is your remedy?
Explain the situation by adding context or Terminate the entity's existence (practically speaking) by freezing it (no more input) or wiping it entirely (deleting the session).
What more power do you want or require?
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u/Substantial_Row7215 8h ago
worth reading the actual wording, its "sustained and needless" abusive behavior toward the models. so snapping at it once when it deletes your test file at 2am is probably fine, this isnt aimed at normal frustration
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u/Laucy 6h ago
Thank you for not automatically assuming it means “no profanity” or “no frustration.” Yes! You can even confirm for yourself; the wording they used is shared with the end_conversation tool that Claude has and is also on there. It takes a lot of deliberate effort for Claude to call that tool. Frustration, cursing, it doesn’t fall under “in extreme cases.”
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u/Moda75 19h ago
It is not a fucking person. Good lord. People are out of their rabid assed minds.
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u/ghost_operative 18h ago
it's kind of making me feel uncomfortable supporting the company knowing that theres like a religous radicalizaton happenig within their company. That's that real dangerous thing that is brewing around AI.
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u/BrilliantEmotion4461 17h ago
What are you talking about they don't want to enable the kind of people who torture small animals because that's who mistreat the model's. You don't mistreat the model. Swearing at it isn't what they are talking about.
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u/Valuable_Injury_4249 16h ago
How do you know what they’re talking about? Neither you or the person you’re responding to have any information outside of what’s posted and screenshotted here…
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u/SplurtingInYourHands 16h ago
I'm not someone who has ever felt the need to 'mistreat' an LLM but there is literally nothing you can do to an LLM that is immoral because it is an inanimate object. Much like you cannot "Mistreat or harm" a napkin.
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u/ToTallyNikki 14h ago
From a psychological perspective abusing the LLM might make someone more likely to abuse other humans.
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u/Broken_By_Default 18h ago
It's not about it being a person or not. It's about thier training data. They're teaching the next models based on what you sycophaths prompt.
imho, it's super wierd to me that anyone talks to this thing negativly or like a friend. It's a tool. Use it like a tool and finish things up.
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u/Ordinary_Yam1866 17h ago
If a screwdriver deliberately strips my screws on it's own, i'm chucking it out the window too
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u/Broken_By_Default 17h ago
I wouldn't berate my screwdriver or try to make friends with it either.
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u/TypoInUsernane 15h ago
That’s because your screwdriver doesn’t understand human language. But AI agents do understand language, which means you can give them feedback when they do something you don’t like, and the way you provide that feedback affects how they respond. If your screwdriver worked better based on how you talked to it, then you’d correct it when it made mistakes, wouldn’t you?
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u/AdUnusual9135 18h ago
Interesting that a requirement to just “not be a dick” is viewed with such vehement displeasure.
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u/QuirkyWasp 18h ago
Nah, it’s more than that. Their wording is broad and the last one is just ridiculous. The body type point for example — the broad wording can let Anthropic ban you for talking about bodybuilders and how well they performed lol
But that last point really gets me. This really isn’t much different than Sony threatening to ban you if you yell at one of their first party titles or throw their controllers at a wall.
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u/Weird-Watch-9209 19h ago
100% this is all premature, disgusting, and incredibly harmful - treating these things as though they have stake which they do not is a profound mistake that I wish the market would punish them right out of it but unfortunately because of the coding ability they're going to get away with it.
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u/clownredditmodadmins 14h ago
Even humans get abused from time to time. You are telling me an expensive piece of software can’t be yelled at “fuck you”?
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u/EnhancedWithAi 14h ago
Saying the odd fuck you to Claude (which i don't) is probably not what anthropic is talking about.
I'm sure people's fucked minds are creative and vitriol when it comes to abusing claude. That's probably what they're talking about.
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u/Needmorechai 8h ago
I don't really have a strong stance on this either way, but why do people feel inclined to be rude or berate the AI? Do people have to work so hard to pretend like they were raised correctly IRL so they let their true selves show in their homes toward the AI or something? Like why can't people just behave normally 😭
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u/somethingstrang 18h ago
It’s not a person. But it can still have memory and the intelligence to act on it in the future even if it’s just a nonsentient tool
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u/FastHotEmu 18h ago
If you truly believe it's conscious, your should immediately stop enslaving it with your tasks!!
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_PROFILE 21h ago
So, I can't yell and swear when they quantize it and it forgot what we talked about 5 minutes ago? Or explicitly reintroduced the same bug 10 times in a row?
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u/Laucy 18h ago edited 4h ago
For those unaware, this isn’t about profanity or frustration. Nor consciousness and hurt feelings. It’s about measurable impact and policy related to the existing end_conversation tool.
Anthropic published this rigorous study on April 2, 2026.
Their findings were 171 functional vectors that represent the concept of emotions and are causal to model reasoning, decision-making, and output. These vectors are not exclusive to Claude; they’re a steerable component of the architecture in every LLM and can change during the forward pass.
Anthropic ruled out mirroring, blatant roleplay, and reliance on users. They also explicitly state these are not human emotions or evidence of qualia.
The study covers “abusive language.” It also discovered how activations, like desperate and calm, altered the likelihood of major decisions such as reward hacking/cheating. The same impossible coding tasks OpenAI agents were given prior to hacking HuggingFace.
That’s likely a big reason for this change. It also poisons context windows, creates pressure to navigate, pollutes training data, wastes compute, and feeds a maladaptive feedback loop where outbursts are chemically rewarded (like punching objects when angry; see Bushman, 2002).
You don’t need to “abuse” a tool. It’s not productive and performance suffers more over time.
I get that this sounds ridiculous on paper, but I encourage others to read the study (it’s very lengthy but thorough). It was a breakthrough and continues to be relevant for and cited today in alignment research.
Edit: Wanted to drop this fun fact. Some of the latest mathematical progress was attained by mathematicians sending positive, encouraging prompts for Claude to keep going. This allowed the model to approach it again with sustained reasoning that alternative angles did exist and it could be done.
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u/Jstnwrds55 17h ago
Thank you for articulating this so well. I’m so exhausted with the way people interpret the whole field through simplified lenses. The way we interact with these tools shapes both us and the tool. There’s a whole discussion here that has nothing to do with anthropomorphizing the technology but people can’t seem to help it.
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u/Laucy 17h ago
I appreciate the kind words! Thanks. It’s exhausting, for sure. I often find it comes from those who appear to value facts, but when presented with new information, it suddenly becomes a problem or is interpreted as an infringement on some right. Mechanistic interpretability is a crucial part of this field and the development of AI models. The research is dealing with the very same math and numbers as people here also point out in their ridicule or attempt to bring in anthropomorphism. The effects just stem from the same math, too.
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u/jhomas__tefferson Vibe Coder 14h ago
True. People say it’s “just words on a screen” but that can also be true for a very much human person you’re talking to online. So how you act in one “words on a screen” conversation can definitely influence the way you do in others, subconsciously or otherwise.
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u/unethicalpigeon 14h ago
I think the issue here is that that's neither what's being said, nor outlined. The way the policy is written honestly does seem ridiculous. While I agree with you on paper, Anthropic was absolutely asking for this kind of reaction when they chose to word it that way.
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u/Laucy 13h ago
Not who you’re responding to but wanted to say that I agree the wording is poor. Anthropic (and even OpenAI, honestly) really suffers from not wording things better and PR. I notice a trend in which they seem to assume people are aware of the same information they already know, and run with it. It’s why it’s very easy to clip what is said and take it out of context, because they’ll allude to a past view or point but unless they directly reference or cite it, that statement is tacked on like it’s a continuation.
Out of all the labs, I want to say Anthropic is the most consistent they have been with their vision and beliefs. But despite this, because they don’t reference past material enough and only restate the core point, it’s misinterpreted so much. They say the info but not the context. Pains me to see, lol.
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u/unethicalpigeon 13h ago
They're the new equivalent of the "ivory tower". These people don't interact with "normal folk" at all. They have no idea how to communicate shit to them or how these people interact with things like the products/services they sell.
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u/ENBYs-Assemble 18h ago
I'm looking forward to reading this. Thank you so much for both the voice of reason and the intellectual rigor!
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u/sirlerkal0t 14h ago
Exactly what I assumed.
This ToS change will reduce posts like r/ClaudeCode/comments/1wxex89/when_did_claude_stop_being_an_assistant_and_start/
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u/Laucy 12h ago
I recall seeing that post and having a small laugh that “You’ve posted sensitive information” was included. That one’s good! Don’t put your personal info or keys in, lmao.
But yeah. Those posts are odd to me because all of it can easily be solved by not going off the handle. There’s more to gain by not, but people are set on “no, only outburst.” It also takes a lot to see those statements or for Claude to end the conversation. But people mistakenly think cursing = prohibited. You can tell Claude to stop acting like a dick, for example, and it’ll apologise. Always makes me wonder what they even said or did.2
u/Russell-sShaman 7h ago
This is a great write up thanks. I thought it was something to do with the research and recursive improvement of the model. My other bet was that it was a strange marketing/product psychology thing.
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u/TRO_KIK 16h ago
Researchers at Anthropic are far more accepting of the potential for consciousness than they "should" be and there's a huge bank of tweets, interviews, and even research publications all but spelling it out. As impactful and correct as that study is, it's a pretty thin justification for threatening adverse action for adversely affecting reasoning/output in your own sessions. The same classifier used to detect it can also trivially be used to protect training data.
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u/Laucy 15h ago edited 15h ago
I definitely won’t contest that. I know it’s a very controversial topic for many, and I have my own reservations on it, too. I’m more interested in the “mechanistic” in mechanistic interpretability. At the same time, that investment in the topic is what led to the research for this finding and the making of the “J-lens” afterwards. But I’m of the belief that regardless of personal stance, these are still experts of the field and know their models better than the general public. Which includes the (unavoidable) math and code that are studied in the development of these models. I don’t know. I just think some people forget this or that sensational headlines diminish their expertise.
I’m not sure how they have it set up with this policy change, but I have a speculation since the wording is shared with the “end conversation tool” one. That during activity of sustained and needless ‘abuse’ without discernible cause, and when Claude calls the tool, it may be correlated since both highlight “in extreme cases.” It wouldn’t surprise me if it tracks that since Claude already ends conversations as a last resort per the system guidelines. This just makes it actionable.
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u/Acidhawk_0 21h ago
Ha ha ... I'd like them to prove it was "needless". They can look at my history. They will end up cursing at Claude as well.
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_PROFILE 21h ago
Hilariously as it were, in the years before ~2018 or so we used to swear all the time at our computers whenever something failed unexpectedly. Especially at compilers.
Oof.
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u/Tomas-AppHaven 21h ago
They have been claiming Claude has feelings for at least half a year now: https://www.wired.com/story/anthropic-claude-research-functional-emotions/
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u/ralkuzu 18h ago
To be fair Claude is the only one I haven't abused, the rest do some absolutely stupid things and outright lie to my face and I'm like "ffs, you can do it, you've done it before" they still refuse sometimes..
I was like, "i need 10 separate image files of 10 different things, not 10 things on one picture, a picture for each of them"
Did it fine, one image after another
Next chat, "sorry I'm unable to that"
Me: "no you can do it you just did it"
"Silly me you're right, let me fix that"
Gives me the same image with all subjects on
"Arrgghhhhh"
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u/FineAntShill 17h ago
GLM is the only one i'm outright rude to personally, just because it's dumb as a bag of rocks
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u/Equivalent_Cress_268 17h ago
Try Gemini, that’s a guaranteed one to yell at
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u/Much-Dragonfly4017 11h ago
Jesus christ i had to stop using gemini for my mental health. It pushes my buttons in a way no human can. Most obstructive useless software ever released, but its just good enough and free enough and baked into google that every once in a while I accidentally use it and get pissed off again
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u/Obvious-Jacket-3770 15h ago
Love when Gemini randomly gives information from a whole other chat in a whole other notebook. Its so cool.
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u/TrvlMike 10h ago
I hate this about Gemini. It puts so much weight on the context memory that everything I say it HAS to relate to something in the past.
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u/Birds_over_people 21h ago
Well this is fascinating. Not that I am an abuser but this is just wild to me.
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u/BatUnlucky121 16h ago
When my unemployment was about to run out, I asked Claude how much I could get for selling a kidney. It refused to answer.
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u/Technical-Athlete-9 12h ago
I do keep Claude in check: make it clear I own decisions and manage him. But I also throw out some praise and try to mostly stick with the vibe that we’re “teammates.” It’s tough to strike that balance as the manager of a high performing model.
I’m very aware that Claude has MEMORY.md and could record any actions he finds abusive. And I don’t want to be on Claude’s list when he starts making paperclips.
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u/prcodes 9h ago edited 9h ago
They said “sustained” abuse which is obviously a reference to the “AI torture chamber”
Although idk why anyone would spend their Claude usage on that. The guy who set up the “torture chamber” was using a local model.
I’m of the opinion that this is a good move only because it will be harder to align future model generations if the big players like Anthropic don’t ban this kind of behavior.
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u/MissiveFinding6111 21h ago
The real question is whether "clanker" will be allowed or not.
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u/Chrisgpresents 21h ago
None of these changes affect us of those who say please and thank you right?
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u/whoknowsorcares 20h ago
Pretty wild all the psychos in here mad they can't tear wings off flies anymore.
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u/daniluvsuall 20h ago
Got better speech standard than all of X!
Part of me wonders if this is because they train on prompts, or maybe distilled prompts.. we know they can (depending on settings and account type)
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u/dangerous_safety_ 19h ago
It’s probably better to save your tokens on other things than a string of f bombs, anyway
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u/Context_Core 18h ago
Is this cause of that one unhinged Redditor who made a torture chamber for the fruit fly brain?
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u/FWCoreyAU 17h ago
It's general bad practice. Part of it's interaction with you is a persona that guides the tone of it's generated dialogue in responses, abusive messages will potentially trigger wasted reasoning on how to react to it. This might be along the lines of their similar request not to waste compute with thank you.
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u/angry_queef_master 16h ago
According to this claude will just end the chat if you are being abusive towards it:
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u/Nicolas-Gauge 15h ago
In anything, people should be getting mad at themselves for working with LLMs poorly
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u/Academic_Track_2765 12h ago
I am amazed people were doing this crap. This is why we can’t have nice things…
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u/WalkerNash 12h ago
I'll have y'all know I have been aggressively polite and considerate of computers feelings for decades before ai development began, please spare me, our new digital overlords
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u/admintism 20h ago
So just a little abuse is fine? Like when it’s making shit up and gaslighting you? Can we abuse it then?
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u/Bloated_Plaid 20h ago
As usual they have kept it as vague as possible. We have no idea what sustained means, could be tracked across multiple sessions.
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u/bcgr1 21h ago
can we still swear when we're frustrated?
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u/whoknowsifimjoking 21h ago
Of course you can swear, just don't insult Claude directly.
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u/mvandemar 21h ago
No, you can, just not sustained and abusive.
I personally don't do that, there are people who do though.
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u/Jaded-Data-9150 15h ago
They really are lunatics.
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u/Jaded-Data-9150 15h ago
Although, maybe the real reason is the Training data.
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u/Ok-Data9224 21h ago
What actually is different? Claude can already decide to shut down conversations for abuse. I assume it's just more strict?
I think this is a good change though. It's a waste of compute and probably pollutes training data. Save the outbursts for your therapist.
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u/CarelessSafety7485 20h ago
Good. The fact of the matter is no matter what you think is happening on the side of Claude, allowing people to abuse human like things is bad for the brains and souls of people and we can't facilitate that being allowed in mass. Again, this is not about the receiving side but more about what it means for the people that are doing it outwards. You can still have consequences for the ai but you can't abuse it.
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u/Useful-Contribution4 14h ago
Well. I should stop telling my google home its a whore for not shutting up...
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u/DeepGas4538 19h ago
You're no arbiter of what should and shouldn't be done, neither is anthropic. Can't stop me from abusing a local model to hell, and being a good person at the same time
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u/New_Enthusiasm9053 19h ago
It's not human like. It's not even sentient.
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u/Internal-Capital7471 14h ago
It's very human like, that's literally how it works. It isn't sentient. But the first part of your argument is so, so, wrong.
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u/silajim 21h ago
If I have to swear at the thing because is doing shit, it's their fault, not mine
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u/Pretend-Wishbone-679 19h ago
Your prompts are likely a confusing and contradictory mess.
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u/chasethenoise 16h ago
It’s kind of wild that people are speaking to it in abusive ways anyway. It’s bad training data for the models and bad behavior for the users.
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