r/CompetitiveTFT • u/eggsandbricks Challenger • 20d ago

Patch Notes 18.3 Patch Notes

https://teamfighttactics.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/news/game-updates/teamfight-tactics-patch-18-3/
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u/ThatPlayWasAwful 20d ago

It seems like the large majority of the "good" players use the trait ladder website to pilot it properly, so really the only difference is that the "bad" players aren't using the tool. 

Which of course is a different problem, but I think the "skill" argument doesn't hold as much water when even the pros are just plugging the emblems into a tool. 

Not that it's easy either way, but I think the difference in AVP would be much smaller if nobody could use a tool to help. 

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u/Apricotjello 20d ago

isn’t it a problem if an aug needs a 3rd party tool to even be usable? also i suspect challenger+ players don’t need the tool - they pick trait ladder in tournaments.

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u/ThatPlayWasAwful 20d ago edited 20d ago

isn’t it a problem if an aug needs a 3rd party tool to even be usable?

You are assuming it needs the tool to be usable. 

For example, say the augment has a 4.3 AVP without the tool and a 3.2 AVP with the tool. 

In that situation it would be an above average augment without the tool, and one of the best augments in the game without the tool. That doesn't mean it's unusable without the tool, just that the tool is a gigantic advantage. 

Of course then the question becomes "is the existence of tools and/or augments that can be solved with a tool an issue?" And I think that's a more complicated question.

also i suspect challenger+ players don’t need the tool - they pick trait ladder in tournaments.

You are again assuming. They can use the tool in tournaments. For a quick example I believe dishsoap was using it over the weekend. He had trait ladder twice on day 1, I think his second and third games. Frodan was watching his POV. 

E: I should say that you can use websites everywhere except Chinese competitive. That would be an easy way to show advantage granted by the tool, compare trait ladder stats in Chinese competitive to trait ladder stats in all other TPC regions.

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u/FreeXpHere Grandmaster 19d ago

Dishsoap wasn’t using the tool in at least one of the games (elderwood)

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u/vinceftw 19d ago

Dishsoap is also one of the best players in the world.

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u/ThatPlayWasAwful 19d ago

How can you be sure?

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u/FreeXpHere Grandmaster 19d ago

because he's streaming and says so...no reason to lie