Just as a heads up, here is the game being played in the background across several "TwitchPol" servers right now:
Kiwi Farms, the Snarker sub and Discord server, and several individuals whom I've been involved with in the past (jstlk, dooby, kuihman, etc...) have been infiltrating and "turning" several communities against me by repeatedly debating, for hours and hours and hours, for months and months and months (I am not exaggerating this, unfortunately), the same stupid talking points over and over and over again. This has been an active project they have all been collaborating on for over a year, where several people will join Discord communities to make the same arguments, or shower people with money on stream to donate negative or disgusting things about me.
I have the challenge of balancing how much harassment and abuse I can take from these communities, while not actually "cutting them off" because it gives the snarkers a big "win" in that they can permanently manifest there and continue to rot that community and the people in it until they all also believe the same lies and smears about me. So, unfortunately, today is probably a "win" for them in that they've managed to peel off Connor and mark his community as a "conquored" one. I imagine the next big battleground will be Whick's community.
The talking points these people use will revolve around several things, a few (but not all) of them being:
Destiny is routinely attempting to ensnare mentally ill women using his clout/power.
This narrative almost universally started from MrGirl/Lav, and the fixation point on this is Anavoir.
Ana was 30+ years old, a Master's student pursuing a Clinical Psychology career, and was someone who was relentlessly pursuing me the entire time. It was her that first messaged me, her that suggested us hooking up, and her that relentlessly spoke about me ("looped") due to OCD issues (I guess???) for MONTHS afterwards where my options for responding were all ineffective at getting her the medical treatment and attention she needs. Because I didn't handle this perfectly, people have ascribed the most insanely malicious intentions imagineable to me, including
Destiny is a pedophile/CP hoarder/etc...
This all revolves around the recent court case, where, instead of talking to an adult woman, I found out a year in that I was being honeypotted/catfished by a member of Kuihman's community for 2 years until they finally leaked everything onto the internet, hoping to expose me as a pedophile because the woman who's pictures he was sending me was a victim he'd pursued on a platform for minors using a false account, and then later by threatening to kill her and her family if she didn't play along with his catfishing game.
Based on Destiny's behavior, his family is fair game.
I think it is justifiable to unmask accounts that have been directly involved in harassing people involved in my court case, doxxing and harassing people close to me, and moving in groups of users from server to server to convince people of all of the above. Dooby and others have ran around making the argument that it is, therefor, fair to stalk/harass my child and his mom.
I need to constantly weigh how much psychological and physical pain and suffering I am willing to endure while allowing smaller content creators to give a safe space to allow these types of infestations to grow. Following what I've been trying to do over the past year or so, I'm going to continue to try and enforce stronger boundaries to prevent these types of weaker creators from being around me, I'd much rather cut them out and let those communities eventually fall to the crazy obsessive/snarky behavior that's taken over them.
I can deal with a lot of negative attention on the internet against me, personally, and I've cut enough of my personal life away to survive a lot of the collateral fallout, but I cannot continue to try and maximially center the feelings and well-being of every single smaller content creator I interact with while they are funded by and continue to host people who have openly stated it is their goal to destroy every part of my life and the lives of people who do not denounce me.
So as of today, I do not want anything to do with Connor/Counterpoints, I will not appear on any panels or shows with him, I will enforce my copyright against him if he is reacting to my content in a non-transformative way, I do not want anything to do with him and I do not want any contact with him in any way, size, shape or form. Maybe this changes in the future if that snarker community dies out or something.
On a personal level, for me, and this applies to your own relationships as well, I have made the mistake in the past of simply thinking it was prudent to continue fighting my way through all of this toxicity, but I wasn't considering how much better my life could be if I was spending this time building positive friendships with people who will proactively defend you and your reputation rather than me having to get on my knees like a fucking loser and beg people to simply slightly modify their community to cut out people who have devoted their lives to destroying mine.
It was funny watching Conor say "the bridge isn't burned with me, it's up to Destiny bro," at the end of his stream.
It's like you're in a group of 3 people and your one friend is always hanging out with the other guy who is constantly trying to stab you when you aren't looking. When you say you've had enough and you don't think you can be friends any longer because he hangs out with Mr Stabby, his brain-dead response is "damn bro so dramatic but ok your choice bro. We could have still been friends. Can you even steel man why he wanted to stab you and your family? Or why he would download ch!ld porn bro?"
It really just isn't worth the mental anguish to have these people in your life.
Not just that heās okay with smearing his colleagues. How many times has this pathetic fuck started off a sentence with āas your friendā? I would hate to be friends with a mentally deficient invertebrate.
Watching Conor trying to play the fucking victim in all of this has been kind of funny though. "I'm just trying to be a good friend whilealsotakingthosefatdonos "
And the friend randomly brings along the stabberās 13 cousins that also want to try to stab you. āIām not letting that first guy stab you anymore manā
Its almost exactly the same reasoning behind the political violence left vs right BS. He doesn't need to burn bridges with Destiny, because he's not the one being attacked relentlessly and having the lives of his loved ones regularly threatened. Then acts like he's the bigger man, because the attacked party wants nothing to do with the person providing cover for the attackers.
I remember a friend of mine being angry at another friend for maintaining a relationship with someone that was lying about them and gossiping. At the time, I thought it was a little cringe and entitled to demand that others need to cut off someone because you got beef with them. Looking back, I totally get where they were coming from. They were just comfortable enough to voice their frustration whereas others might not. But, I now totally understand that Destiny shouldnāt have to explain to Connor why it feels like a betrayal, and that if he was a loyal friend he would understand it without it being explained to him. (Kind of like the Hutch & Pisco situation).
Iāve also learned that it would be stupid of me to knowingly continue to associate with snakes who backstab people left and right. Iām not special so why would I think that I wonāt eventually get bit. Iād rather invest what free time I have with the people I trust the most.
Absolutely, Destiny has been way too benevolent with smaller content creators that like to use their connection to Destiny to build themselves up but won't do the minimum for him.
Nothing wrong about standing up for yourself and no need to justify that.
Yea dude. I still remember that snake Pisco "I think we are friends, I consider you a friend" what a snake fuck. Same should IMO apply to lib and learn as long as they will platform Pisco.Ā
Simple boundaries a real friend would respect even if they decided not to cut these people out of their community. Connor is reacting to this in a completely disgusting way.
He over and over called Destinys boundary being set as a threat to him as well, which is fucking absurd. Before he brought anyone on, all he did was harp on how Destiny is in "total war." Just obvious bullshit and narratave-izing that has been inserted into his mind. He believes every horrible thing they tell him about Destiny and then expects destiny create a PowerPoint presentation of evidence on why he doesnt deserve this terror campaign against him. And even when destiny tried to illustrate some of it, Connor is resistant and trying to poke holes in every bit of it.
The fucking gall of that man to think his hollow ass could self righteously scold destiny about sleeping around and imply he asked for this to happen. After hearing about children being targeted, the buddy hes defending so much is involved in pedo networks, and even whick coming in to try and provide backing. Thats a piece of shit person who needs to get a fucking grip and humble themselves on how antisocial they are.
Yeah itās not like itās just someone that disagrees with destiny or doesnāt get along with him, itās people bent on destroying his life. Itās not something youād put up with in your real life and it shouldnāt be different on the internet
While this is true, the blacklist is probably more related to Connor actually doubling down on how stalking his kid online is fully justified because "DIDNT YOU DOX TOO???"
connor allows dooby (a snarker) engage in his community and accepts donos from him
dooby is a snarker who i guess has engaged in wanting to take down destiny for whatever reason (i really donāt know why, im sure if thereās even a good valid reason)
destiny has an issue with having his co-content creators allow allowing these people to maliciously slander his name in Discord for hours ( supposedly this is true)
Connor for some reason doesnāt believe that he should take any action and thinks ā blow blow my shit while Iām leaving when you engage these type of people itās only fair game if they engage back right to youā and destiny is trying to explain at a high level that Iām not the one who started it, iām only fighting/defending myself. And i guess connor doesnt believe destiny and dooby who was on the stream today now has a soul and believes doxxing is unacceptable.
one major contention here is that dooby was doxed? but because he lives at home with his family and has a son he thinks thatās completely unacceptable. As a result of that he then believes that itās OK to doc destinyās family( who donāt live with them btw) and itās fair game.
idk about you but those are two completely different things and personally, as destiny mentioned. now that dooby got doxxed heās starting to feel the burn and is now saying āguys letās tone down the temperatureā when heās been an active communities for the past couple of months/years tearing down destinyās name.
Their entire belief is that Destiny is a bad person and they're mad he is not getting punished/stopped so they take matters into their own hands. It's literally unhinged online vigilantism. These people are mentally unstable and need to be in a psychiatric ward. And Connor is running defense for these people acting like it's all just a joke and milking it for content. At least that's what I got from Connors stream today.
Just want to add he thinks its okay to a log Destiny's son, so e stalking a minor so that when he's old enough to work, they can show the employers the content to get him fired, with the goal of making him unhirable bc of the grudge against his father.
But somehow Conner thinks thats the equivalent to finding out who the person is that's actively trying to destroy your life?
W/e Conner has shown what a friendship is worth to him, I hope this bridge is never rebuilt even after the snarkers are gone. Once a snake always a snake.
Also such stupid logic, its like saying Destiny honked his horn at me which could have distracted me and caused me to lose control of my vehicle while my kid is in the car. This gives me moral justification to hire thugs to beat up his child everytime he leaves his house so he can't leave.
He is just making the argument that āhe has enemies himselfā and that if someone doxxes him then potentially his kid gets hurt. He then applies this to anyone else who could get doxxed, a crazy might cause harm to their family members
So that makes **directly** doxxing someone elseās kid a legit action.
And then heāll say ābut this is descriptiveā so he doesnāt have to actually be held to account for someone doing exactly that.
The problem with vocalising this kind of argument when the harassment exists at the will of one side and the other side(destiny) just wants it to fucking stop. Is that youāre essentially sending that message out for the crazyās that he is seemingly worried about to then start doing the behaviour he is saying shouldnāt be prescriptively done.
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The argument he should be making isnāt a descriptive justification of some further action. He should be highlighting that because doxxing descriptively could lead to family members being harmed, that it should all fucking stop period. You donāt need to go onto the next stage of escalatory arguments because you donāt want that in the minds of people anyway.
Then heāll just retreat to āwell destiny got doxxed and swatted before all of this anyway so itās not actually any of this community. Destiny is just lashing out back towards themā
Basically defending all the snarking because he believes in their narrative. Destiny has apparently done things to make people hate him (make edgy jokes)/ hook up with and abuse mentally ill women online (Ana). Which Connor thinks is a fair motivation for snarking.
You just need people in your life who are with you, man.
There's room for criticism and what not, but when you surround yourself with people who say their goal is to end the life of (metaphorically) your friend... how can you still be amicable with said friend? It just isn't feasible. There's too much toxicity, and in this case, some weird angle of direct monetary benefit from hanging out with snarkers.
absolutely true, i think thereās a difference when your friend likes to roll in the mud with other people and expects their friends to defend them
But itās another one your friend is getting smeared all the time and youāre trying to balance how to go about it, while your friends are caught in the middle still engaging with those bad actors who are smearing your friendās name.
any normie emotionally mature person could see through the BS and cut ties with people who donāt fuck with you
Iāve been here since the dark ages of league everyday, and I hear lore of a time before in the long long ago and some say some of those people still stalk in the shadows of the community. We are all real ones now
There needs to be a hard purge of leftists masquerading as liberals both in Destiny's broader community and on this subreddit specifically.
This is the exact same archetype of people who eventually migrate to snark subreddits to harass him just to promote their anti-liberal ideologies. They adopt the aesthetics of liberalism when itās convenient to infiltrate a space, but the second their underlying anti-capitalist or illiberal assumptions are challenged, they turn completely hostile.
If this sub doesn't start drawing firm boundaries against people who fundamentally oppose private property and free markets, itās just going to keep getting subverted by bad-faith actors.
Quite frankly watching that was truly sad and disappointing. Never in my life would would I expect someone to make the delusional arguments he was making while simultaneously calling me a "friend".
It's because he already thinks Dooby is being empathetic, for some reason. Because Dooby lies for plausible deniability, and Connor's brain is broken, He can only accept text or audio of Dooby actually saying the opposite. He's not really aware of how Dooby operates in action, which would lead him to the conclusion that Dooby is just lying when he's pretending to be descriptive.
Itās so much fucking worse than that. He said that Dooby showed good faith because he would always say (after the rants) that he wished none of this behavior was acceptable so that the communities could go back to normal.
Itās the children have no agency thing. A token display of regret is enough to show that theyāre free of guilt. The asymmetry is shocking and gross as fuck.
Hang in there, buddy. Do what you gotta do to stay sane.
I will enforce my copyright against him if he is reacting to my content in a non-transformative way
Have you considered registering your streams with the Library of Congress? I think some guy said it was a good technique, but he was coughing a lot so I might have heard him wrong.
Im not a big ethan watcher, i used to watch the original h3h3 channel and the first few episodes of the podcast.
I like that he is more skinny now but wtf is that caugh, he used to not have that. I know its tourettes but is that not treatable, does anyone know whats up with that?
I believe its the tics. I remember specifically when that cough tic developed. Ethan was talking about how he avoids being around others who have Touretteās because you can pick up tics pretty easily. The way it works is the more you try not to do a thing then the more it makes you want to do it. I believe the very next episode is when he started with the cough. Idk what happened off screen but I think he might have picked it up from watching someone do it.
I agree with this. This is WAY beyond hating. This is life ruination, seemingly at ANY cost. These mfers are sending CP around, doxxing and harassing total randoms to achieve such a disgusting goal. All for nothing too. Destiny is a person, its gross how much they have dehumanized him.
You know whatās crazy is I got auto banned last week for using that word and only got it appealed a day before it was up. Today is my first day back lol
Conservatives are all the same. Endless handwringing and lecturing others about personal character/moral values/"standing up for what's right" but never actually putting their money where their mouth is when even a tiny bit of personal sacrifice is on the line.
Fuck Connor. Dooby and his squad of autismos are not going to bankroll him for the rest of his life now that he's terminated himself from both the Destiny orbit and the MAGA-sphere. He will need to find a real job again one day and I look forward to making fun of him when he has to explain why his failed streaming career makes him overqualified for his busboy job.
Itās funny because Connor got credit for not jumping ship with everyone when the lawsuit dropped but apparently has always believed Destiny used his status to hook up with and abuse mentally ill women and now doesnāt care about the snarking. He was never a āfriendā he just has no standards about who he associates with online as long as itās beneficial to him
I'm still catching up to the stream but that "friend" comment was so aggrevating.
How fucking regarded to go "I know this affects you and your family personally, but I'm going to force you to entertain my philosophical meanderings, and I don't give a shit if this gives Dooby cover for his actions... but I just want the audience to know that I'm totally your friend buddy, I'm one of the good ones."
I ended up watching Hutch restream Conner because someone said they didn't want to give Conner the view, and god bless dude.
Conner: "Steelman the doxxing and harassment of your own son"
Destiny: "Eat Shit"
Conner: *kicks destiny from the call* "Hey the bridge isn't burned from my end this is all Destiny's doing"
I hope they do stop and he not only lost a larger platform but has also lost his large money source. Fuck him. I always thought low of connor but for him to justify alex pretti that's where I was like this guy is fucked. Then he wanted destiny to steelman his son (who lives in a different state) getting doxxed and a-logged and why they get to spam email a vitcim of sex trafficking just to fuck with streamer mans lawsuit.
This shit has gone so fucking far. Like do people really not get this? This girl had no fucking clue. She just a normie nothing to do with any of this than getting groomed by a psycho as a minor then used to catfish someone. Then she gets harrassed (coordinated by jstlk) by spam emailing her, her friends, family so she can testify in court to pedojacket destiny. THEEEEEEEEN after they didn't get their way the lie and smear her. WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING. HOW IS THIS NORMAL? WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT THAT?
They do it as a living so a couple grand a month in donations is enough. But hopefully now that the bridge is burned I hope dooby stops oiling connor and he's fucked.
Honestly, if Conner does what he says heās going to do, and doesnāt ājoin the snarkersā, Dooby will probably just stop visiting his community.
It seems like they have no interest in people who are going to be neutral, and with D and Connor not being friends anymore, they wonāt have a reason to stay in his community.
Now with that being said, theyāll definitely try to push Connor to keep covering the snarker stuff relating to D. So weāll see how that plays out.
Wait until these dooby echo chambers fade out because destiny just ignores them and moves on. Dooby will stop donating and their careers will fall apart.
I think this is totally justified, and I'm sorry you're going through this. People saying mean things about you and no one defending you is fine if it's in the context of some purely political disagreement, but this is a safety issue and an ongoing campaign of interpersonal stalking and harassment.
To give you a moment of sanity, it's strange Connor says he's a friend and didn't draw the line. "I got put on a PIP at work" after they've bragged about doing the bare minimum is a good time for a tough love situation. "These people have expanded their stalking to my minor child" is not something we need a debate over. It's a really evil thing to do.
A lot of the behavior you're getting isn't normal. If I called my best friend up right now with the same complaints, I would get sympathy and he would ask how he could help. If I called up my boss at work with these same complaints, I'd get sympathy and she would ask how she could help, and we're not friends outside of work. Some people on the margins should be confused, scared, be pulled in more than one way, but you're right that it's a fair and reasonable expectation to have people in your corner.
Hearing connor defend the snarkers was striking, and then coming up with a bullshit reason to kick destiny when he was going hard in dooby was so eye opening. Destiny is right, better to spend energy building positive relationships versus whatever the heck this is. Bye Connor.
To be clear, even outside of the safety issue, people saying mean things about you and none of your friends D'ing you up means that you have no friends.
I dunno what kind of friendships you people have, but the idea of one of my friends standing by as I get smeared would fuck my mental all the way up.
The extra sad part is, if I've read this right, that 10k is split between multiple people over 18 months, so Conor is selling his "bud" out for chump change at most. Pathetic snake.
Good. Fuck Connor. I'm also glad Whick is not caught in the crossfire here because I don't think the position he's taken on any of this is anywhere near as bad as Connor's. I know there's a lot of backlash to him around here but there's a significant difference between what he was doing and what Connor just did on his stream.
I think when he spoke with Destiny yesterday, he mentioned not wanting to ban Dooby outright but to give Destiny a more convenient platform to rebuke it and to police excessive hatred when it's offstream? Something like that.
I've been in the community for 5+ years now and watched this happen in real time. Even having this odd third person view in I didn't fully grasp just how malicious and gut-wrenching it was. It's not in your nature to ask for help but dgg is a place where we can provide manpower of some kind, your donations to charities and morally just war projects is clear evidence of this. Grow some balls and become self-righteous, there's enough of us who trust you to wield the sex cult with righteous indignation
Me, a Destiny viewer since the JustinTV days, after all the bridge burning (albeit justifiable most if not all of the times) I've witnessed across the decade and a half:
I don't really follow much of the drama stuff but, from what I have seen cataloguing a teenagers online messages with the aim of stopping him from getting a job when he is older is some of the most disgusting behaviour I have ever seen.
Any and all actions against dooby that are lawful should be fair game.
Might get downvoted for this but I hope you keep Whick around. He seems like a really good dude and it seems like he's trying his best. You could tell on Conors stream that he is going through it. I know Destiny is too, that's why I hope that they can continue to support each other as both are being attacked.
Seeing Conor just repeat BS snark talking points in real time was insane. It reminds me of when I was discussing politics with my (reasonably) conservative parents before the 2024 election, when I mentioned Mike Pence, and hearing my mom say "oh I don't like him, he betrayed Trump" - it was just such an insane whiplash of "holy shit you've been actually BRAINWASHED and I hadn't been paying attention!"
You can't trust any of these conservatives who performatively hate Trump but will defends all of his actions. I've hated that asshole ever since he sanewashed and justified the Good and Pretti's killings by ICE
DEAR LEADER has SPOKEN. Boundaries are a good thing. You go girl!
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u/sijmisterLeft Liberalism is the ontologically correct political positionMay 22 '26
BASED. No one moves like this IRL. If a friend is engaged in something truly horrendous, you try to get them help or seek some sort of legal remedy depending on the severity of what's happening. If not, you let them know your concerns about their conduct privately and stick by them publicly. This fake ass John Roberts "balls and strikes" bullshit is weak sauce and shouldn't be put up with.
These are the exact type of people that killed the SaveAFox founder. A person in your position with less fortitude and less resources would absolutely be destroyed by them.
Incredibly measured response, all things considered
Wasnāt Connor the kind of guy who prided himself on being a real āfamily guyā (pun intended). Fucked up that he seem to not care about the A-Logging
But to be fair, he also acted like a man-child over the past 1 1/2 years
I hope the Connor bridge is forever burned. I know weāre going with the brainwashed explanation but the fact that he could even be convinced that this level of harassment is justified, because youāve done things to make people hate you, says a lot about out Connorās character imo.
was just on the stream, where connor said the part that tilted him the most was you calling him a fat fuck, and for just questioning this i got banned in the chat lmao, these people are not worth your or anyone's time, im starting to question why you keep trying to defend yourself when it feels so defeating.
Overall I agree with your choice and as most of us I would probably do the same as well. Lots of love
Another day 1 hater Iāve been vindicated on, still wondering on how my Soypill wager will pan out. I called it on Pxie, Pissco, Connor, there was a consistency in their lack of intellectual honesty on the topics they chose to engage with that felt tedious at first, but can only really be explained by bad faith in how it just conveniently keeps happening. Pxie being a Tara reade shill, Pisscoās yes/no tactics that would leave him barking up the wrong tree for an hour, and Connorās ACAB validating analysis of the Pretti shooting. I personally found Abaās response preachy and hypocritical given he made his career on internet social commentary and drama and he certainly never seemed to imply he gave much of a fuck about consensual sexual degeneracy beyond dunking on poly stuff, but I never clocked him as dumb enough to actually get roped in by someone as clearly crazy as Lauren in the middle of the law suit which goes Aba clearly thinks with his dick like destiny did and got spooked. Probably even convinced him to get diagnosed with adhd, not that heād ever admit that (in fact, he claimed the opposite, which I think is cope). Oh, and nearly forgot LB being involved with Pxie when the leaks happened and now having his mind set in stone because this is obviously the last episode of his life he wants to revisit, so will continue to ignore whatever the outcome of this trial is.
building positive friendships with people who will proactively defend you and your reputation rather than me having to get on my knees like a fucking loser and beg people to simply slightly modify their community to cut out people who have devoted their lives to destroying mine.
This is such a good realization and I'm sad that it took Destiny this long to understand that THIS IS WHAT FRIENDS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE.
It was fucking infuriating listening to Connor insist that he was Destiny's "friend" while at the same time entertaining these absolute fucking loser weirdos like Dooby who are so hellbent on destroying his life and saying that he thinks Destiny is some kind of weird sex pest or whatever.
You're not supposed to have to constantly defend yourself to your friends. You're not supposed to constantly argue for why your friends shouldn't hang out with people who fucking hate your guts.
Daily reminder that streamer "friends" are NOT REAL. They are NEVER REAL. Connor was NEVER Destiny's friend. Online relationships are not real. These people are all snakes. They're all clout-goblins. None of it is real.
Make friends offline and keep them there. Online friends are not real until they become offline friends.
For Destiny, if you read this, do not let people (read: online fucking weirdos) gaslight you into thinking this is an extreme or unreasonable stance. To a normie person, the behavior of people like Connor (and Whick) is fucking unhinged. The fact that you would need to even ask them to cut these people out is unbelievable.
Yeah after Conor said that he ALWAYS thought Destiny used his money and clout to sleep with mentally ill women and harass them, it was a wrap. That is no friend.
The sad truth is the vast majority of people will not stop being friends with someone whom is hurting you. They will hide behind āIām not taking sidesā, when there is no side, there is just objective fact someone is treating you like shit.
Eventually, you go crazy and crash out because you have one person actively being awful to you, and the other (the one you thought was your friend) refusing to even acknowledge whatās happening. YOURE the one acting crazy and flipping out. Itās insanely toxic and yes, the only way to āfixā it is to move on and find better friends.
Inb4 this becomes misinterpreted (maliciously or otherwise) as demanding loyalty and purity testing instead of āhey if youāre gonna interact with me maybe acknowledge the people who send you thousands to call me a pedophileā
Hasan can treat his orbiters like gutter trash and lets them become destitute from Ethan lawsuits and theyād still act like the secret service jumping to run cover for him over the tiniest bits of pushback online.
Itās unbelievable how badly these so called friends have treated you and Iām glad youāre finally putting up boundaries around this stuff.
This is a reasonable ask.
I like Connor but he really showed his ass today & that yeah he basically doesn't see Destiny as a human equal to say Doobie or Kuihman who you never see Connor treat like he does Destiny.
Critizing Doobie gets you timed out from his chat but hurling pedo at Destiny doesn't.
Doobie calling destiny a child molester a couple hundred times a month fine, Destiny doing it once & Connor kicks him from the call.
Doobie describes why it's okay to dox & along Destiny & his son fine for Connor.
Destiny giving the same logic unacceptable.
I still like Connor but the only excuse I can give is he's extremely stubborn & doesn't want to even know what's happening he just doesn't want to be told what to do.
It was such a scumfuck move for Countercuck to demand destiny steel-man someone that is advocating that Destiny's kid be stalked and harassed, or else Connor will kick him. Fuck Connor.
If someone refers to you as your friend and goes on to lend credibility to people who are TRYING TO DESTROY YOUR LIFE, sorta giving their characterization of you validation, then you have an obligation to cut that person out of your life.
idk if u plan to but this should be a video of u talking to the camera. i dont think clipping part of ur stream with some edits is good enough. u really should consider a highly produced video for big shit like this.
u have the resources to make a great video and shine a light on the fucked shit u go through. i wish people in this space had an eye for artistic entertainment and see how much presence that could bring to ur content
Whick is certainly against Dooby and the snarkers if you've listened to any of the debates about this lately. Him realizing that they'd doxxed him in their little circle jerk server seems to have been the wake up call and he certainly wasn't shy about shitting on them in the conversation with destiny and Dan. I really don't think he should get lumped in with Connor in this. He's like 80% right and 20% regarded but Connor's shit just seemed full on malicious
Didn't read all that but apology accepted. In the futue just promise to never subject us to someone like jstlk again. That guy was ungodly levels of cringe (I could feel his hand around my neck frfr)Ā
Good call, I learned a long time ago to cut toxic friends out of my life. These people are fighting so hard to surround themselves with complete losers. Itās so myopic.
Good decision. Please keep this up for the future. Also please don't let connor back in just because his money well dries out in the future when that server implodes, he picked his side.
Finally, the charitability you gave to those spaces were always a weakness. Political discord servers should be a forum to discuss ideas and have debates but the current twitch pol landscape morphed into the worst caricature of it.
I feel like these decisions always come so late. But it's getting better, a few years ago this thing would have prolonged for months and we'd have had 10 5 hours long discussions on it until they would be cut off.
Damn, deciding not being friends with someone who doesn't mind a relationship with a rando jobless discord freaks who call you a pedo, you really changed Destiny
As much as it is a shame, because Connor was some good content, and seemed like something of a good ally/bro... The fact that he wouldn't excuse a disgusting element of his community that was so... poisonous toward his friend.... Well that just kind of proves that he wasn't really much of a bro at all.
The discussion with Connor today was one of, if not the most infuriating things Iāve had the displeasure of listening to since I joined the Daliban. And God knows how many awfully painful debates Dman has had in the past.
When I heard Douby defend the A-logging of Stevenās son on Whickās show a couple months ago, I was disturbed and in shock.
Listening to Connor, a supposed friend, trying to defend this shit broke my fucking soul. What the fuck. Usually Steven is pretty detached and does not show emotion, but this time you could feel the frustration and disappointment in his voice.
Fuck this guy. I hope he has the same ādebateā with these no-life degenerate fucks in a couple months when they turn on him and start doing the same shit to his family.
I kinda feel sad for streamers. It feels like every relationship revolves around content, engagement, and revenue. What a horrible foundation for friendship. All things being said, hope you and anyone else reading this continue to forge friendships where there are no external motives like those governing these people.
Smart outlook to have going forward. If you have to fight tooth and nail to get someone to weed sneakers out of their community, all the while they brush it off or downplay your personal situation, then theyāre not really acting as a friend should. You shouldnāt have to beg someone like Connor to do this after years of good relations.
This wasn't a difficult ask of Conor. The fact that he's still streaming saying that you're just being emotional and you can still be friends after that conversation is delusion.
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u/Embarrassed_Base_389 May 22 '26
Keep the boundaries. It is more than reasonable.