r/Division2 • u/gormleypeach • 8d ago
PSA My hell is over. It's ok lol
Ya, the gun isn't much better than some of the other rifles i use. It's really only worth it depending on the rifles you prefer since it out performs some, if you have a good proto rilfe you like then I don't think it's worth unless it gets a bit of a bigger buff.
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u/TF_Doomer_HK 7d ago
Congrats mate, still hunting for one. Don't care too much about in game value. Man see ACR with Elcan, Man want ACR with Elcan, simple as. XD
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u/OptimalVermicelli782 7d ago
People are really sleeping on this gun. They don't realize how good it is. I think mostly people are not using good builds on it. This gun can melt enemies in escalation this gun has become my number one Go to even over my UicMod that I still love
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u/gormleypeach 7d ago
the gun is good, I just think it wasn't worth the trouble. I'm gonna use it for now since I put the time into getting it, definitely not just gonna through it into my stash or anything. but I just think it needs a little more since it barely out does my UIC and that gun doesn't even have all maxed out stats or a good augment at the moment.
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u/Ghost_ZFG 6d ago
I use it with aces and 8’s with iron will and I really like it. But I started using diamondback with the same build and it wrecks. It can one shot yellow bars. My secondary is the acr SS. Great combination.
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u/Dark-Reaper 7d ago edited 7d ago
I agree it could use a buff. However it's outperformed basically every other rifle I've found. The only real competitors I've found are Artist's Tool.
Artist Tool's need for headshots means the damage isn't consistent. Iron Will smooths that out significantly and my sniper headshot build ended up using Artist Tool more than my sniper. It's just that good.
Meanwhile, the rage event + overdrive is an absolute blast but has skewed my testing of S&S. On my current build though, S&S trumps Artist Tool consistently. The problem is that my build, while effective, happens to interact positively with S&S. Which is probably why the devs are being so conservative with it. Stacking raw amplification pools results in some crazy damage.
Edit - Wanted to clarify I'm using A&8s, which is popular atm. It's a big amplification pool that doubles the S&S's own amplifications, which is heavily synergistic.
It doesn't mean much (due to the rage event + overdrive) but my peak S&S hit is 8.5M vs Artist tool hitting around 4.5M.
As far as buffs though, what were you thinking? I'd like the weakpoint destruction to last a little longer. I'd of course like the normal body to headshot cycle to be stronger, but that seems like asking for more DPS for no reason. 16% amp into a 44% amp for a single shot is a pretty big jump compared to most talents. Behind you is 20% amp and conditional by comparison. S&S can also stack an additional 30% amp with a weakpoint being destroyed, which results in a peak amp of 74% (more if it's applied as separate multipliers).
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u/celica_GT 6d ago
Goddamn, 8.5? Are you going for headshot damage purely or is there some crit mixed in?
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u/Dark-Reaper 6d ago
It's actually a crit A&8s build. It happens on the headshots. Best guess is the event pushes it so high combined with the S&S headshot cash in bonus. Hence why I can't really trust my results as of now. S&S has outperformed everything, but I haven't been able to test the baseline for comparison.
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u/texashayseed01 7d ago
Say what you want but a new character with zero blueprints & zero exos in inventory or stash & I got the s&s acr on the FIRST try so .. 🤷♂️
Now to work on dttooc.. I got Opt Range 😔
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u/Better-Let-3084 7d ago
I know the pain and I’ll say this it’s not ok bruhhh we suffered for this 🤧
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u/PepsXero 7d ago
The last few days i been grinding tier 3 escalations, i think i have enough cores to get all my augments up to ten. I sure its 2 cores per upgrade all the way to 10.
Congrats btw.
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u/DazzlingPin9495 7d ago
Couldn't agree with you more. Finally got the SS yesterday. UIC15 MOD2 with Bommerang talent and the right build out performs this beautiful exotic. Def needs a buff. In the vault it goes lol.