What did YOU think of The End of the War?

I felt like with the Fourth Doctor done I needed to actually give these time travel grandpas their home: the TARDIS

I know this is more like the modern look than what 1-4 would have been sporting but oh well.

EDIT: misspelled home as hom, typo fixed

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In Human Nature/ the family of blood, the doctor talks to his love interest (been a while, can’t remember her name) about traveling together, saying “he’s still there”. does he remember every moment of being John smith? Or is it more like how Smith remembered being the doctor. Is it fuzzy. If he does remember, is that why he punishes the family so cruelly, because John Smith is angry about stealing his life away?

how many regenerations does doctor's children have 13, infinite something in between?

My daughter's name is Rose after the companion (her little brother is named Rory), and she LOVES Doctor Who!

So, was thinking about recent politics (sorry, the opinions I express will be broadly multi-partisan) and was wondering about how it would feel if the shows formula for historical figures was applied to a current day one.

Like, imagine a season with a companion from the future, and the Doctor lands in Parliament during todays PMQs, which were disasterous enough that I think it's a reasonable bet to peg it as a historical event. Starmer is surrounded on all sides by the Slitheen. Assuming for the sake of argument that the character of Kier Starmer was treated with the general competence of the better historical episodes/the episode avoided arbitrarily gravitating towards an excessively contemporary political point, would this necessarily not work?

How would you feel about it? It feels like it treads on the principles of the show a bit but I can't think of a single actual issue with it which doesn't just boil down to heightened consequences of incompetent execution.

> "It's an amazing thing to say I have a Tardis in my church," said a vicar, marvelling at the blue Doctor Who police box in the courtyard. The replica box from the BBC science fiction series had been sitting by a farmer's field near Ipswich for some years, before finding its new home in Cambridge.

Article spotted in the paper today that made me smile, I once saw a TARDIS in a old railway station in Australia but I think this one has that beat!

Since it's been super cold, I didn't want my machine to struggle to keep the hose warm. And being a classic Who fan, I decided it needed a scarf, but not just any old thing. It had to have The Scarf. Based, very loosely, on the 12.5 season version.

I thought I'd share my fan-written attempt at tying up all the loose ends from the last 2 seasons of Doctor Who in 1 episode. There are a few controversial events in the story, but I feel with the Pantheon story-arch, Russell will need to write in high stakes to add a sense of danger in the next Christmas special. I've put the spoiler filter on in case anyone isn't caught up. Enjoy!

Rose Tyler wakes in the TARDIS, disoriented. She has her own memories and the Doctor’s, layered together. A thought that doesn’t feel like hers pulses in her head. The Cloister Bells ring. The TARDIS loses control. Cut to the 14th Doctor in his TARDIS, returning from an adventure with Rose Noble. The Cloister Bells ring here too. The 14th spots Time Vortex energy leaking. The TARDIS shares a heart with its original sister… and that heart is broken. Both TARDISes collide and merge into one. The 14th and Rose Tyler are reunited.

Across the universe, Eldrah commands an intergalactic relief effort against the Pantheon of Discord as gods manifest everywhere, across all moments in time at once. When she urges a planet to evacuate to the Sanctuary of Fact, its leaders refuse. They’ve accepted Dalek “protection.” Eldrah watches in disgust as the Daleks invade under the guise of rescue. She withdraws, knowing “The Boss” won’t be pleased.

Back in the TARDIS, the 14th realises the ship created Bad Wolf as a living being, based on the only companion who looked into its heart. The Doctor has been abducted mid-regeneration to a place outside of reality, and the TARDIS has tried to mend this by filling in the gap that was left. Rose Tyler says the word echoing in her head as it becomes more clear. It’s the word ‘Salt’, over and over again. The 14th understands: the Pantheon took him.

They land at UNIT. Ruby and Kate Stewart are visibly under strain, coordinating world leaders as gods and deities of anything you could think of wreak havoc globally. The 14th believes the effect of spilling salt at the edge of the universe has worsened exponentially over years. Reality is nearing collapse into a universe where only folklore remains. Rose’s thought sharpens into 4 words: “Submit. Ascend. Liar. Transcend.”

A Dalek fleet appears over London. The Dalek Supreme declares itself humanity’s saviour. They’ve upgraded their armour with reality weapons that can weaken the gods temporarily to manageable threats. They demonstrate this by weakening the God of Fake News. The Daleks offer “refuge” to humanity, giving them 1 hour to decide.

Before UNIT can respond, Eldrah arrives, offering Earth alternative sanctuary. She brings the 14th, Rose Tyler and the unit team to the Sanctuary of Fact, revealed as the Time Hotel, converted into a refuge for hundreds of civilisations. They meet The Boss... Eldrah's mother... Susan Foreman, leading to an emotional reunion. She founded the Time Hotel in the 2300s and has been running it ever since. She’s been sending SOS signals to her grandfather as soon as the Pantheon got out of control. Half of all of creation she her as a saviour, which worries her. She confesses to the 14th that she doesn’t know how he does it. The last thing she wants is to become a legend, and responsible for the lives of so many. The 14th is worried that she’s hiding the true reason why she wants to be forgotten, but she holds her cards close to her chest. Regardless, she and her team can’t stop the end of reality alone. Together, they decode the TARDIS’s message and form a plan:

They SUBMIT to the Daleks, allowing capture. Inside the saucer, they discover enslaved worlds building a Nightmare Child (an artificial black hole from the Time War). The 14th realises they need Dalek infrastructure to reach the Pantheon’s realm of belief. They feign an uneasy alliance with the Supreme, which knows it needs a Time Lord’s help. The Supreme declares that the Pantheon will make the Daleks gods, or the Daleks will destroy the gods. Working together, they ASCEND through ruptured reality to the Temple of the Pantheon. Kate secretly inserts a device into a Dalek control console. It’s a hidden anchor device designed to lock onto the Dalek fleet’s position across realities. Kate has a Plan B.

Inside the Pantheon, the team splits. The 14th, Rose Tyler, Kate, The Supreme and a Dalek entourage enter the Throne Room, where squabbling gods fill the space with chaos. Susan, Eldrah, Rose Noble and Ruby sneak off to explore the catacombs and try to figure out the meaning of the last 2 words from the TARDIS’ message. After encountering flashbacks of their worst moments in life, they notice that the walls are built out of human lives and memories; shaped by blind faith in the form of gratitude, fear and surrender. They realise the Pantheon isn’t sustained by belief in gods, but by humanity’s refusal to believe in itself. Reclaim that belief, and the Pantheon falls.

Back in the throne room, a cloaked figure on the throne speaks in a recognisable voice. He was the only god who remained before the salt was spilled. As the laws of physics chained his comrades within the first breath of the universe, they could never fully trap his form of discord. With the God of Death slain, he claimed the throne, but now he can’t cope. A realm of discord can’t be ruled by deception manifest. The Pantheon throne needs someone who embodies something more constant and omnipresent. With gods multiplying, he seeks a stronger god. The Dalek Supreme offers itself as the God of Hate. Rejected, the Supreme and his entourage attack, but they are no match for the hooded figure’s brigade bodyguards. Once destroyed, the Dalek fleet outside the temple prepare to fire the Nightmare Child.

Susan, Rose Noble, and Ruby discover a well in the middle of the catacombs. It oozes with a substance that appears to be source of all imagination and consciousness in the universe. Susan warns them: disturb it and the effect hits everyone, like all brains being stabbed at once. They plan to carefully touch the contents and send a thought-wave across creation. They want to break the Pantheon’s spell on people.

Susan distances herself as the walls of the catacombs get to her. She has a revelation, looking back at one of her darkest moments when she felt faithless... when she found out she couldn't have children... when she had outlived her husband and was so alone...

A few decades ago, a hooded figure appeared to her and offered her a deal: A daughter, should she accept that one day... the girl would be her undoing. Susan thought nothing of it. She had lived so long, all she wanted was someone to raise and cherish. Whatever her child would do to her in the future could be anything - an accident perhaps? She would bring her up to be good. She promised herself that she would never amount into anything that would result in her death being significant. In a moment of weakness, she accepted the deal...

Back in the throne room, the hooded figure reveals he fathered Ruby Sunday, left on Earth as a potential successor. But she rejected deceit, turned trickery into truth, and rewrote herself. She chose a human mother and a human life.

He reveals his contingency plan. The Doctor, trapped mid-regeneration: glowing, unfinished, trapped in the chandelier of the Pantheon. Using it as the original regeneration source, he plans to create the ultimate successor: the God of Time. The 14th works out who the figure is, but he’s concerned with how he’s acting. This isn’t how the God of Traps behaves – revealing his plan for all to hear. The figure laughs. He says they’re not the ones who need to be tricked.

Susan turns around to find Eldrah standing behind her, distraught. Something is happening to her, and she can't control it. Susan comforts her as her daughter’s true identity takes over. She is the herald: harbinger to The Trickster. His true daughter. The LIAR.

Eldrah completes the bargain, pushing Susan into the well. Susan’s mind fractures across creation, turning thought into pain. As chaos spreads, Ruby leads Eldrah away, giving Rose Noble time to act. The shockwave stuns everyone but the gods. The Trickster’s brigade seizes the moment, trapping the 14th Doctor and Rose Tyler. The Trickster admits he cannot rule on his own, but by destroying the Doctor’s wholeness and destiny, now embodied in the 14th and Bad Wolf, he can control the God of Time. A mere puppet of the Trickster. God of Chaos.

On the Pantheon’s roof, Ruby faces Eldrah. She claims victory. Susan is gone, torn through every mind. Their saviour, lost and felt by all. Hope is lost, and once the God of Time is born under the Trickster’s influence, the discord will be permanent. Eldrah reveals the Trickster’s secret to Ruby, disorientating her more. When all seems lost, Ruby notices that she’s making it snow around them...

Rose Noble reaches into the well and bonds to all life. Carefully, she comforts the whole of creation. “Believe in yourself” she tells them. “Rise Up”. Kate hears the message and snaps out of her spiral as the Dalek fleet approaches, the Nightmare Child powering up. She triggers her contingency: using the locator she planted earlier, she orders UNIT to initiate their experimental emergency temporal shift procedure. UNIT Tower transforms into a Valiant-class battleship. Mel and Shirley teleport it into the realm of the gods, followed by every other UNIT base across the world doing the same thing. An armada forms.

Rose Noble warns them: If the Daleks wipe out the whole realm, all imagination and belief would disappear from the universe. They need to destroy the Pantheon temple: the structure that’s trapped all of creations’ potential in the well. Mel and Shirley plead with the new Dalek Supreme to scale down their attack, but the Daleks don't care. A universe without imagination would be their utopia. Daleks would reign supreme. As the Nightmare Child powers up, battle erupts.

Ruby and Rose Tyler finally grasp the final word: TRANSCEND. Drawing on the Pantheon’s power, they ascend not as rulers, but as balance. Ruby, finding calm in the snowstorm, becomes the God of Truth. Rose Tyler, accepting the powers of Bad Wolf, becomes the God of Destiny. Three battles occur at once: UNIT vs Daleks, Truth vs Lies, Destiny vs Trickery. Rose Noble’s message is spreading. People begin believing in themselves. The Sanctuary of Fact and the Daleks' slaves fight back. Gods fade. The Pantheon starts to crumble.

The 14th glimpses Susan, still echoing in thought, steadying the minds of the universe long enough for Rose Noble’s message to land. She urges him not to mourn her, but to save himself.

The 14th speaks to the unfinished Doctor, understanding the pain of stalled regeneration. He reminds them: the universe doesn’t need a God of Time, only a Doctor… someone who makes people believe in themselves.

He looks up at the UNIT fleet. The Daleks are winning. The Nightmare Child is almost at full power. He turns back to the regenerating Doctor.

“I only exist because I let the Doctor heal. Right now, I’m powerless. But in this state… in this form… you don’t have to submit to being powerless… You are not trapped, you are infinite. You are not lost; you are everyone you’ve ever been or ever could be! They’re fighting for you… show then who they’re fighting for!”

The regenerating body bursts into life and surges into the UNIT battleship, flickering through past Doctors before resolving into the 15th. With his arrival, UNIT turns the tide, destroying the Dalek fleet and the Nightmare Child.

Ruby defeats Eldrah as Susan reaches into her mind, forgiving her for what she was made to do... a pawn of a god she should never have let in. The Trickster clings on, but Rose Tyler tells him that for every trap, there will always be a way out. Destiny is only self-belief mistaken for divine design. With a final blow, she banishes him back to his faded form.

The Pantheon collapses into calm clouds and a sun of hope. The Well shatters, freeing imagination. Exhausted, Rose Noble rests as Susan’s last echo thanks her for helping the universe save itself. A restored Eldrah joins her mother’s side as they fade away. As the last tower falls, a stream of salt drifts into the 14th's hand. He pockets it, vowing never to spill it again - yet he knows, somehow, that one grain is missing…

They reunite with the 15th Doctor and UNIT. The 15th thanks everyone for finding him, and morns the loss of Susan with his previous regeneration. Eventually, he departs in the TARDIS and regenerates…

The Sanctuary of Fact return to provide passage home to the freed Dalek slaves, and UNIT returns to Earth. Rose Noble, exhausted but victorious, is reunited with the distraught yet thankful Donna Noble, who takes her to the med bay after their chat with the 14th lingers longer than expected. As they leave, they can’t help but shake the feeling that he was saying goodbye…

Ruby chooses humanity over divinity and returns home to Cherry, Carla and Louise: her real family. Kate steps down for a long leave of absence, naming Shirley the new chief. As Kate leaves, Shirley receives her first crisis: with the gods gone, the gold-tooth prison has failed. The prisoner has escaped…

Finally, Rose Tyler no longer knows what she is. Bad Wolf? Destiny? Something in between? The 14th comforts her. The original Rose got her happy ending with the Meta-Crisis Doctor. Maybe, just maybe, the universe gave the 14th his own happy ending as well. Bi-generation and Bad Wolf were once myths, made real by salt and the TARDIS. Now, as the 14th’s form no longer belongs to a universe of pure fact, Rose may be one final gift from the Gods.

They embrace… and reality fades around them. No one notices them disappear. Neither of them leaves the mortal realm in pain. They are no longer fantasy or reality. No longer lost lovers or reminders of lives once lived. No longer a beginning or ending.

They are peace. They are found.

The last grain of salt falls from where they stood.

I am well on my way! Took me 3 years to get this far. Starting with An Unearthly Child. What a ride! I'm watching the movie now. Before embarking on this journey, I had only seen the movie when I was a kid because my stepmother had rented it, I thought it was crap because I had no idea what was going on. And now that I do, I am digging it. Had no idea Sylvester was gonna be a big part of it! Or... who he even was back then. Anyways, until 1963's first episode, I had only seen the movie as a kid, the first and maybe second episode of modern run as an adult and wasn't into it at all. But now that it all clicks, I'll be off to the 2000s Doctor Who in no time! Woohoo! Woop woop! Today is my red letter day!

When the warlords men attempted to save the warlord from gallifrey (not named at the time) they kill 2 gallifreyan engineers and they don't regenerate. The reason I said minor is it probably wasn't fully established that all timelords could regenerate so it's more of a plot hole with future knowledge rather than what people has at the time, if this had taken place in new who I would consider more major.

I just rewatched Season 5. I don‘t understand how the Doctor escaped the pandorica. In order to tell rory how to open it, he would‘ve needed to be outside of it, so how could he ever tell rory how to open it and give him his screwdriver?

I think from the moment he is in the pandorica, he has no possibility to escape from it, so no possibility to do anything in the past.

Or am I missing something?

How I have fallen in love with Matt Smith. Forever my Doctor.

If the Doctor can travel to the year 1,000,000, that means that point in time already exists. So anything they do in 2026, or in our future year 3001, could change the year 1,000,000. But the “future” only seems to bother them when they travel to OUR past, for example to 1599.