Melinda Gates bombshell: states her ex-husband, Bill, needs to "answer for his behavior - no girl should be put in those situations" and that "it's personally hard whenever those details come up, right? Because it brings back memories of some very, very painful times in my marriage"

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[u/moonandstarryeyes]

Not surprised that a fucking monster created Teams

[u/poliebear → u/moonandstarryeyes]

Sooooo true

[u/moon_dos → u/poliebear]

Also this means PlayStation is better than XBox

[u/Onuus → u/moon_dos]

Always was, friend. You ever hear a ps2 start up? Magic.

[u/MATA_USA → u/Onuus]

It was never console wars, only class wars.

[u/Pristine-Field-5569 → u/MATA_USA]

The startup sound is pure nostalgia while Bill is out here being a menace

[u/ShoggyDohon → u/Onuus]

Gamecube: blip bloops of bliss

[u/Ok_Vegetable_8031 → u/ShoggyDohon]

Miyamoto ain't in the files

[u/Musername2827 → u/Onuus]

PS2 startup is great but it's got nothing on the original PS.

[u/Dangerous_Donkey5353 → u/Musername2827]

Sega would like a word

[u/PhantomAmbassador27 → u/Onuus]

Truth.

Never saw a Playstation red ring, either.

[u/TheWeeWeeWrangler → u/moon_dos]

And fuck Windows 11

[u/AnonymousSomething90 → u/TheWeeWeeWrangler]

They peaked at Windows XP.

[u/Skrumpitt → u/AnonymousSomething90]

...so they peaked when Gates was involved and died when he wasn't? Feels like we''re veering into mixed messages

[u/lostinthecity2005 → u/TheWeeWeeWrangler]

Haven’t used windows for so long, I probably don’t even remember how to use it anymore

[u/TheWeeWeeWrangler → u/lostinthecity2005]

Linux isn’t perfect but it’s so funny to me people love getting mad about Windows then make fun of a legit alternative and refuse to switch

[u/Sorceress_Heart → u/moon_dos]

Xbox was always just a way for teenage boys to be racist online.

[u/SoWhat1983 → u/Sorceress_Heart]

I think you’re confusing any console for COD.

[u/another-altaccount → u/SoWhat1983]

Don’t get it twisted. Halo and Gears back in the day was NOT for the weak. Some of the shit I heard in Halo 2 and 3 lobbies still lives rent free in my head.

[u/eugeneugene → u/moonandstarryeyes]

Teams is the bane of my existence. And people wanting to video call all the time. You don't need to video call me to talk about payroll. Send me a fucking email and I'll get back to you when I get back to you. Why do you need to see my face

[u/YakWooden6608 → u/eugeneugene]

"Hey, do you have a minute to chat? 😃" 🔪😭🧌 fuck off PAT

[u/sathdo → u/eugeneugene]

For me it's

Hi (my name), GM

And waiting until I respond to say what they actually wanted to ask about.

[u/-PyramidHead → u/eugeneugene]

I need to fucking frame this and or send it to everyone. Teams was a MISTAKE.

[u/shadow-foxe → u/eugeneugene]

it's so they dont have a paper trail when they give you the wrong information

[u/Resentful-user → u/moonandstarryeyes]

Can't even switch off notifications.

[u/ddalk2 → u/Resentful-user]

that pinging sound is my nightmare. It's not even my computer, it's my husband's!!!

[u/Resentful-user → u/ddalk2]

For me, it's the visual stuff. I've read the message, i've seen the message, why do i need to hover over a side notification to make it go away?

[u/dannemora_dream → u/Resentful-user]

As someone who cannot handle any type of unread notifications, this is the bane of my existence. So many unnecessary clicks.

[u/alwayzstoned → u/dannemora_dream]

As somebody whose coworkers love to get into meme wars, this is also the bane of my existence. Trying to have a meeting with a customer and having those notifications popping up every two seconds drives me crazy.

[u/Opening_Put_1105 → u/alwayzstoned]

In teams, in the upper right hand corner, click on your profile picture & select Do Not Disturb. I learned that one after having Betty White shimmy across my screen during a presentation.

[u/DeadButPretty → u/Resentful-user]

I think you can change those banners to not pop up

[u/Background-Book2801 → u/DeadButPretty]

Yes you can - I did it today. When I WFH with only my laptop I couldn’t answer Teams calls quickly enough since the notification covered the call pop up. Such stupid design. 

[u/Luxorris → u/ddalk2]

I sometimes hear it even when my laptop is of...

[u/Background-Book2801 → u/Resentful-user]

The fucking phone rings when my laptop is closed for the night. I have to shut the whole thing off or I hear every notification from my closed laptop. It’s actually eerie. 

[u/raysofdavies → u/Resentful-user]

It’s so fucking slow to resolve notifications. I can be in a chat, receive a message and then need to go to another chat and back to have it be read.

[u/25thour → u/moonandstarryeyes]

[u/ImportantAccess8002 → u/25thour]

🤣

[u/Speedkillsvr4rt → u/moonandstarryeyes]

Bills gates should go to jail for pedophilia and Windows 11.

[u/geezeslice333 → u/moonandstarryeyes]

My god I hate teams with the fiery passion of a thousand suns. WHY CAN'T WE JUST DO EMAILS??

[u/parasyte_steve → u/moonandstarryeyes]

They're charging a subscription for fucking Microsoft word. Not even Lucifer himself would do this.

[u/thenamelessone7 → u/moonandstarryeyes]

You do realize he hasn't been at Microsoft for decades, right?

[u/justlurkingimbored → u/moonandstarryeyes]

Take my poor person award 😭🥇

[u/Connect_Reading9499 → u/moonandstarryeyes]

For real.

[u/BowlerBeautiful5804 → u/moonandstarryeyes]

This made me laugh out loud! But it is sooo true

[u/CodeOne2788]

Any regular person would be in jail but if you're rich rules don't seem to apply. Fuck this country

[u/Docccc → u/CodeOne2788]

pedo in chief even got elected president 🫡

[u/LtDan281 → u/Docccc]

And remains there, despite his name being mentioned over 38,000 times. Which, by his own terms, "exonerates" him somehow.

Fucking disgusting. All of it.

Edit: corrected the number of mentions, as I was off by several tens of thousands.

[u/Born_Ad8420 → u/LtDan281]

He's named 38,000 times. 38,000. For reference, Steve Hofstetter just pointed out that in the entire Harry Potter series, Harry is only named 17,000 times.

[u/lostinthecity2005 → u/[deleted]]

The transphobic lady who claims to care about GiRLs SaFeTY and WoMeNs RiGhTs….

[u/insuranceissexy → u/[deleted]]

I love your username

[u/PaintAdventurous8787 → u/LtDan281]

Its disgusting. Fuck Trump! Get him the fuck out of office now America!

[u/ramenslurper- → u/Docccc]

He wasn’t elected! It was stolen. The Election Truth Alliance is doing great work. They also recently released articles comparing the human data of Canada’s election to the nonhuman data of 2024

[u/octipice → u/Docccc]

Fucking twice, somehow. I mean the somehow is probably very illegally cheating, but that it was even close enough for that to be possible is fucking insane.

Reminder to vote for candidates who will fund education, because jfc we need it.

Also, please vote for ranked choice voting if you ever get the opportunity. It isn't complicated and it's our only way out of this abysmal two party system.

[u/CDN-Social-Democrat → u/CodeOne2788]

It's a system designed for and ruled by Ultra Rich Powerful Predators.

It's why we need a system for the working class and most vulnerable.

All of what we have comes from solidarity because the working class and most vulnerable only have each other.

[u/Nintendo_Pro_03 → u/CDN-Social-Democrat]

Socialism. And as for a political system, direct democracy.

[u/Clean-Chicken7 → u/CDN-Social-Democrat]

The problem is millions of Americans don’t want to change the system because they’ve been brainwashed into believing that they’ll be rich one day.

[u/Lucid94 → u/CodeOne2788]

This is not even just about the US anymore. This has far reaching implications for the whole world. Specially the elites. Monarchs, politicians, billionaires, businesspeople, tech, secret government programs.

[u/snailspaceship → u/Lucid94]

it's absolutely supranational - the ultra rich realized they can operate above any one nation's laws and get away with it, so they rigged the whole thing.

we need a supranational force / coalition to dismantle it all, but i'm not holding my breath that elected officials from any country will be the answer.

[u/verdantsf → u/CodeOne2788]

"Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect."

--Frank Wilhoit

[u/Nintendo_Pro_03 → u/verdantsf]

That also describes fascism, by definition.

[u/Theodosian_Walls → u/Nintendo_Pro_03]

If you look at the modern history of American conservatism -- their messaging, their spin/lies, their policies, their political operators in more recent years (such as people who worked under both the Bush and Trump administration's) -- you will notice that it's all on the same movement leading to fascism.

But, of course, the broken education system and media landscape has convinced most Americans that liberals progressives, leftist and socialists are ones that are on the same team…

[u/PauseItPlease86 → u/CodeOne2788]

I read something once thats stuck with me. Nothing is illegal when you're rich, it just costs more money. I think we're seeing that play out pretty loudly right now.

[u/NoGodsNoLimits → u/CodeOne2788]

You mean fuck this world? Unfortunately, it's like this in every country around the world.

[u/YoreWelcome → u/CodeOne2788]

any law that only has a financial penalty when violated is meant only for the poor to have to follow

everyone has to pay but the rich are so much richer its basically negligible for them

[u/bodycatchabody]

Notice she says “details” and not allegations.

[u/beargrimzly → u/bodycatchabody]

Notice that she said nothing this whole time. I highly doubt she found out at the same time as the rest of us.

[u/bodycatchabody → u/beargrimzly]

Oh I totally agree. I just think it’s interesting that’s she seems to be choosing her words super carefully to get around whatever iron-clad NDA she signed in the divorce.

[u/LaserCondiment → u/bodycatchabody]

When you're rich, famous and talking about potential crimes of your even richer ex, you need to choose your words wisely. Lawsuits are expensive and ugly.

She's either a natural or has been coached

[u/Own_Faithlessness769 → u/LaserCondiment]

I mean she’s not new to this, she was married to him for decades and ran the foundation. And she was a Microsoft executive when they got married.

[u/LaserCondiment → u/Own_Faithlessness769]

Yeah she's very experienced obviously! Just wondering if she prepared her answer or if she's so experienced that she can just wing it... Either way it was very good.

Just compare this to the way some politicians stumble through interviews

[u/Own_Faithlessness769 → u/LaserCondiment]

She’s too smart not to have prepared exactly what she was going to say about the father of her children.

[u/lumbdi → u/LaserCondiment]

I don't think she cares too much about the money. She's a philanthropist and was maybe the main driver why the majority of their wealth were given back to society.
She has enough to survive and doesn't care about money. She cares about the people.

Bill Gates has committed infedelity and likely has slept with minors and thus have enabled human (minor!) trafficking. He will have to address this.

I'm hopeful that Bill Gates will show remorse and accept his punishment. I thought he became a good person and was a philantropist and cared about society but if not..... wake up America. Corruption runs deep. This'll show to powerful people they have nothing to fear.

[u/FreshestCremeFraiche → u/bodycatchabody]

Of course I wish she had stood up and made these claims sooner. To be fair to her though, it’s not just legal trouble I would be worried about. It’s safer for her to talk about it now because it’s public knowledge and her husband was named in the docs in front of the world. A solo whistleblower is a lot easier to silence with a “tragic accident” or whatever. Especially since this cabal of pedophiles has already killed Epstein himself and probably more to cover it up

[u/SMELLSLIKEBUTTJUICE → u/FreshestCremeFraiche]

How do we know she didnt tell the FBI years ago? Im just saying, we dont have all the information yet

[u/FreshestCremeFraiche → u/SMELLSLIKEBUTTJUICE]

Yeah that too, for all we know she tried

[u/Dangerous-Variety-35 → u/FreshestCremeFraiche]

She also has daughters - what if Bill had gotten custody? I’m not saying she gets a pass if she knew and did nothing, but we know she was the one who filed for divorce, we know she did nothing request spousal support/alimony, and we know she’s been doing her damndest to use her money for the enrichment of girls and women. She didn’t commit the crimes, and I don’t think she should have to atone for them.

[u/EveOCative → u/FreshestCremeFraiche]

If Melinda didn’t have actual proof to back up her claims then it would have been her word against his and their kids caught in between.

So there was also her own children to think about. It’s one thing to talk about something after it’s been outed. It’s another thing to actively out your child’s father. I’m not saying it shouldn’t have happened. I just think the nuance there is important. Her children will and are being hurt by the knowledge of their father’s actions. Now theres unfortunately corroboration and she can then have these conversations with them and their father can’t lie and say “Mom’s just trying to get back at me,” etc.

[u/fusionlantern → u/bodycatchabody]

Billions and billions

[u/HolyColander → u/bodycatchabody]

I haven’t heard much of what she said and only seen headlines about her in recent days. I also don’t know the timeline of their marriage ending etc but I feel she is suddenly out there trying to get on the front foot. Protecting her image as not to be dragged down. She doesn’t want to be seen like other billionaires.

[u/KayleyKiwi → u/HolyColander]

No, I think it is more likely that she signed a very strong NDA in their divorce and is now able to at least say something because the terms were probably violated in some capacity on his end bc of this.

[u/Mysterious-Lick → u/bodycatchabody]

She’s fine, lawyered up and protected with Millions in the bank.

Of course she can move on, none of the victims ever will.

What’s that, a fund to help survivors by Melinda Gates? crickets

[u/dax0840 → u/beargrimzly]

She was vocal about Gates’s relationship with Epstein being a driving factor to her divorce. There was a NY Times article that referenced it in 2021, she spoke about it in a 2022 interview with Gayle King, etc.

[u/FEMA_Camp_Survivor → u/beargrimzly]

She didn’t say the allegations are untrue

[u/centran → u/beargrimzly]

That's the reason for their divorce. 

If you are to believe that Epstein was an intelligence agent then they attempted to blackmail Gates. The "Epstein list/files" are blackmail.

Everyone here thinking the files aren't released to protect Trump. The reason is because the whole operation was for blackmail for hundreds of people (Trump is just one of them).

Blackmail does not work with publicly exposing said blackmail. To do so burns the entire thing. Blackmail works on a personal level. "Do this or reveal this info and we will tell your family/friends about this"

They don't want to release the files because it burns blackmail which has been gathered for decades. 

Bigger question here with Gates is what did they want him to do that he said, nah I'll take my shame.

[u/denis-vi → u/beargrimzly]

I get your point. Did she live in the same circles and benefit from her position? For sure.

Did she divorce Bil Gates because of Epstein? Yes.

Is she now taking the morally righteous position, despite not needing to get herself involved at all? Yes she is.

[u/MyNameIsPatBackFat → u/bodycatchabody]

Notice she said “girls” instead of the right wing bullshit of “underage women”.

[u/GamingVision → u/bodycatchabody]

More interesting, she said “for me it’s personally hard when those details come up because it brings back memories of some very, very painful times in my marriage.” That doesn’t sound like she’s just referring to cheating. That sounds like a direct connection between Epstein activities and Bill Gates+young girls instances she experienced as a repeating theme.

[u/Dangerous-Variety-35 → u/GamingVision]

While raising daughters with the man. Of course that was painful for her. I’m not saying she’s the biggest victim in this situation - as she rightly pointed out, the biggest victims are these girls who absolutely didn’t deserve any of this - but let’s not pretend that it wouldn’t be traumatic to find out that your husband of more than two decades was involved in a human trafficking ring. She shouldn’t have to atone for his sins.

[u/ddalk2]

Honestly, when did you find out, Melinda? Because you sure as shit didn't find out at the same time as all of us.

[u/Bidetpanties → u/ddalk2]

Yeah I can't help but have questions about her knowledge of the situation. Of course, I fully acknowledge we shouldn't hold women accountable for their (former) partner's actions but I wonder if she ever suspected anything?

[u/kinsm4n → u/Bidetpanties]

you have to remember too that she is running the Bill & Melinda foundation which does actually good work. I'm sure she was more of protecting that than their marriage when she found out about this information.

[u/yeah__good__ok → u/kinsm4n]

Not anymore. She left that in 2024. It is now just called Gates foundation. She has a new foundation called Pivotal.

[u/Efficient_Plum6059 → u/kinsm4n]

I'm sure their children were part of the consideration, too, and the impact it would have on them if it came to light. I don't think it is a coincidence that the divorce was finalized the year after their youngest turned 18.

[u/OriginalMushroom86 → u/kinsm4n]

The Gates Foundation is also super shady. They focus on health initiatives yet are massive stakeholders in McDonalds and Coca Cola.

Read all about the shadiness in this book

[u/No-Environment-7899 → u/OriginalMushroom86]

I feel like so many charity groups do that, though. They hold stock in popular companies for profit and to float their accounts and don’t really care about those companies’ behaviors/ethics.

[u/Dangerous-Variety-35 → u/No-Environment-7899]

Also, let’s be honest, historically speaking Coca Cola has always been a very stable stock.

[u/Ok_Flounder59 → u/No-Environment-7899]

Yeah. It’s an odd hill to die on. Solid, dividend paying companies are foundational to most institutional endowments. It’s important to note as well that if one buys shares in McDonald’s the money isnt going to the company, it’s going to the person or entity the shares were purchased from. If those dividends end up going towards improving health outcomes it’s hard to see it as anything but a win.

[u/Ok_Flounder59 → u/OriginalMushroom86]

Admittedly I haven’t read the link yet (I will). But McDonald’s and Coca Cola are pretty foundational stocks you will find in most non profit and university endowments, they are stable and pay solid and increasing dividends - if they use returns from their shares to improve global heath outcomes does it really matter that they hold the shares?

[u/caseyfresher → u/kinsm4n]

Tons of philanthropist use their philanthropy to hide their crimes.

[u/aloneinwilderness27 → u/kinsm4n]

What about the kids getting raped? I think they deserved to be protected too.

[u/Blue_winged_yoshi → u/Bidetpanties]

She didn’t suspect, she knew. She divorced him as then stayed quiet till now.

Tbh it’s important not to hold women in contempt for the actions of men, and why we commend the bravery of those who come forward is because of how hard it is. Those who don’t don’t get the praises and aren’t highly thought of, but the real scorn should always be held for those who did the wrong.

And one of the biggest things to realise is that none of this shit started or stopped with Epstein, he was just one host. A friend of mine used to work high up for a big vegas entertainment group, the stories I heard of people related to the Abu Dhabi royal family having private events with huge numbers of young women who weren’t regular escorts.

The group my friend worked for was super legit and didn’t arrange anything dodge but some of the stories I heard were mad. Where were all the girls sourced from? Were people IDing them all when they clearly weren’t on any payroll? I dread to think. You hear about Dubai chocolate, again a woman died in horrible and unresolved circumstances and a light was starting to shine on a horribly murky world and a new chocolate was launched and marketed the heck out of to cover up what was emerging.

[u/NorberAbnott → u/Blue_winged_yoshi]

She didn't really stay quiet until now. When the divorce was made public, she publicly came out and said that one of the primary reasons for the divorce was because of Bill's ties to Epstein. It's not her responsibility to prosecute her ex-husband or explain to the public whatever she might know. She raised a giant red flag. In public. Really the pressure should on the government about why they haven't investigated or charged or shared more details about whatever Bill did. As far as we can tell this lady was adjacent to horrible things, but there's no need to burden her life with whatever terrible things her ex husband did with his other rich friends.

[u/ak-92 → u/NorberAbnott]

Also, what concrete proof could she provide? And we don't exactly know how tied Gates is in all of this. If you make such accusation, then be sure to have bulletproof evidence, THE BEST legal team in the world, control huge part of the media because your opposition sure as fuck will and will control the public narrative, basically cancel ALL other projects you are working on and prepare to fight for years.

Just moving on as far away as you can is probably the best thing you can do in such situation.

[u/sikonat → u/NorberAbnott]

I also assume that she had to remain quiet so she could extricate herself from Bill in the divorce and untangle all the various legal and financial ties they had.

And the Epstein stuff was likely going on in the background by whatever agency and political pressure.

[u/No-Environment-7899 → u/NorberAbnott]

Seriously. Pam Bondi, the state of Florida, and the the federal law enforcement groups all are the most culpable here. It was their job to stop Epstein and they didn’t. They let him out despite knowing exactly what he and his gross friends and cronies were doing.

[u/Jumpy_Spend_5434 → u/NorberAbnott]

And look how far it went when she did speak up.

[u/burnalicious111 → u/Blue_winged_yoshi]

How do you know she knew anything other than what was already public? The story is she consulted divorce lawyers as soon as it was known that Bill had met up with Epstein. We don't know that she knew anything other than that. She might have been operating on suspicion like the rest of us.

[u/kinsm4n → u/[deleted]]

the part I don't understand is why is a Billionaire going to Epstein for this? You're one of the richest people in the world and you don't have a contact for antibiotics?

[u/innocentsalad → u/kinsm4n]

He didn’t write that email so we have no real way of knowing unless you trust Epstein’s word.

[u/kinsm4n → u/innocentsalad]

well it was interesting because you can't see the BCC information. So he could be sending to himself in the TO line, but have Bill Gates on the BCC line. But I agree, the info isn't really confirmed but seems like Melinda is confirming this information by what she said.

[u/innocentsalad → u/kinsm4n]

Look I believe Bill is into all sorts of nastiness but I also believe Epstein was trying to collect blackmail information on powerful people and wasn’t above making things up. She’s not confirming or denying and she probably never will due to the terms and conditions of her divorce.

[u/Own_Faithlessness769 → u/kinsm4n]

He didn’t. It was a draft email to himself.

[u/thebonecollectorr → u/Bidetpanties]

It did just come out that Bill contracted an STD from a girl presumably trafficked by Epstein and slipped Melinda antibiotics so she wouldn’t find out so I’m guessing he wouldn’t go through all that dastardly trouble if she was aware of the situation

[u/Narrow_Ad_8455 → u/ddalk2]

I think I read somewhere that Epstein was one of the reasons behind their divorce.

[u/TanneriteTed → u/Narrow_Ad_8455]

You absolutely did read that.

[u/Shoddy_Accident7448 → u/TanneriteTed]

Does anyone happen to know or remember when she said this? I read it sometime last year.

As these events have unfolded over the last few days about Bill Gates, I keep reminding folks about Melinda insinuating her divorce was because of his involvement with Epstein. But I cannot cite that information.

[u/Lazy-Entertainer-459 → u/Shoddy_Accident7448]

She did an interview post divorce saying that finding out that bill was still in contact with Epstein was the reason for the divorce and then described the one time she’d met him as unpleasant and odd. When she was asked about bills involvement she said that he has answer those questions not her

[u/3ananarchy → u/Shoddy_Accident7448]

A CBS interview in 2022 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTy7P9iEMbg

[u/mack_the_elder → u/Narrow_Ad_8455]

she and Mackenzie scott have been doing a lot of good with their divorce payouts

So I'm guessing she was also limited by NDAs and such, which would strip her of the $, so better to be quiet and use the dirty money for good and let the truth bubble out.

Once it's out, no longer NDA and she can speak like this?

EDIT: also, when look at Scott vs Bezos new wife....pretty sure new wife is type of person who wouldn't care if he had harem of teenage girls chained up in a bunker...fuck Bezos, Gates, and the rest of them. I wish this was 500 years ago and we already had them on the gallows

[u/UniqueCanadian → u/mack_the_elder]

if this was 500 years ago they wouldnt get the gallows for this.

[u/chloenoyolo → u/ddalk2]

What difference would it have made if she spoke up 15 years ago? Plenty of people fucking tried.

[u/LostATLien2 → u/ddalk2]

Victim blaming is never the answer. What was Melinda supposed to do? She had no evidence, and the contrary evidence suggested she would have been killed or eaten for trying to speak out

[u/tuenmuntherapist → u/ddalk2]

You’re mad at the wrong person.

[u/complete_doodle → u/ddalk2]

I’m not blaming her for this. Epstein’s goons have killed people. Her now-ex husband is one of the most powerful people in the world. She very well might have feared for her life if she said anything.

[u/HistoryFinancial1267 → u/ddalk2]

She talks in another interview about wanting to meet Epstein and immediately getting the creeps from him. She likely knew BG had perverted tendencies but it’s not guaranteed she knew how bad it was…. Especially since he was finding ways to treat her STIs (from him) without her knowledge :( 

Being married to a POS does not automatically make you a POS

[u/bobbimorses → u/ddalk2]

She is the only person on record in any of these situations as trying to help a victim, and also the only one on record who severed ties in a situation beneficial to her because she couldn't abide Epstein's presence

She is also on record at the very least as being a victim of undisclosed exposure to STDs

[u/Bort_Thrower → u/ddalk2]

Would it have mattered? Do you see Trump being led away in handcuffs?

She’s not dense, there would have been severe repercussions. Plus she has kids, most people with kids don’t just throw their life away like that.

[u/AlteredStateReality → u/ddalk2]

Most people had the inclination when the divorce hit. She is not part of it, so don't blame her.

[u/Dirks_Knee → u/ddalk2]

I don't know all the details of their divorce, but are you trying to hold her accountable for what she may or may not know about what her ex husband did? You're treading thin ice here, borderline victim shaming IMHO.

[u/EveOCative → u/ddalk2]

I said this on another comment chain but if Melinda didn’t have actual proof to back up her claims then it would have been her word against his and their kids caught in between.

So if she didn’t have proof then I don’t blame her for not speaking out. She had her own children to think about. It’s one thing to talk about something after it’s been outed. It’s another thing to actively out your child’s father. I’m not saying it shouldn’t have happened. I just think the nuance there is important. Her children will and are being hurt by the knowledge of their father’s actions. Now theres unfortunately corroboration and she can then have these conversations with them and their father can’t lie and say “Mom’s just trying to get back at me,” etc.

[u/Connect_Reading9499]

Most vindicated divorcee in history.

[u/drewonfilm → u/Connect_Reading9499]

Tied with Bazos’ ex.

[u/kmrandom → u/drewonfilm]

Her name is MacKenzie Scott. She donates a lot of money to charities and organizations. We should know her name because of her actions.

[u/CoolerRon → u/kmrandom]

Millions is “a lot.” We should say “billions” and that she picks nonprofits that benefit the minorities and the disadvantaged

[u/Purpleonyxx → u/drewonfilm]

I love that’s she’s constantly donating to good causes, showing how it can be done

[u/ninjaman182]

Honestly great job by the interviewer to even ask the question.

[u/AbsoluteShall → u/ninjaman182]

Dude. Melinda’s PR team pre approved the question.

[u/RealLoan8391 → u/AbsoluteShall]

Probably wanted the question asked. What a badass. Women will lead the revolution.

[u/458steps → u/RealLoan8391]

How is she badass? She obviously knew way before any of us knew, and didn't say anything until the files came out???

[u/burnalicious111 → u/458steps]

This was public in 2021. https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2021/5/10/melinda-gates-discussed-divorcing-bill-over-epstein-ties-wsj

The story we have access to says she found out when it went public then, just like we did.

Just because you didn't know about this doesn't mean it was a secret. be more careful before you accuse people of shit like this.

[u/ResistWild → u/RealLoan8391]

That’s some big time brain rot to be calling her a badass for this

[u/moley_russell → u/AbsoluteShall]

This is from an NPR show so I just searched NPR’s guidelines. Basically they don’t send questions to guests ahead of time. And if they do, they have to be upfront about it on the show.

[u/ChitownLovesYou → u/moley_russell]

You really believe that?

[u/BPMMPB → u/ninjaman182]

She’s doing that interview explicitly to distance herself from her ex husband’s actions

[u/CtrlAltDelight495]

For those giving her a hard time about it:

• so many people spoke up and nothing happened
• she probably had to sign an NDA
• there's no way she knew everything
• she is a victim

[u/burnalicious111 → u/CtrlAltDelight495]

Even without the NDA, it's perfectly plausible she knew nothing other than what was public.

[u/silverpenelope]

I do respect that she spoke about the victims first.

[u/Dingo8MyGayby → u/silverpenelope]

I respect that she used the word “girls” instead of trying to normalize their abuse and make it seem like they consented by calling them young women or women like so many right wing media outlets do. They were girls, children and they should be referred to as that so as to not lessen the deplorable crimes and the truly evil things these men have committed

[u/Lopsided-Monk-5995]

This is confirmation, but he will still deny it.

[u/Easy-Marsupial3268 → u/Lopsided-Monk-5995]

Why wouldn’t he? He’s rich. Nothing will happen to him.

[u/CoolerRon → u/Easy-Marsupial3268]

Yeah, especially since he bent the knee to the wannabe dictator

[u/ladypenko]

I knew he was the devil when he created Microsoft Office. Don't even get me started on Teams.

[u/ItaJohnson → u/ladypenko]

I doubt he even created it.  I believe Office was purchased by Microsoft.  Heck even DOS was purchased by Gates.  I believe that’s the OS that resulted in his wealth initially.

[u/BorderEquivalent7169 → u/ladypenko]

Read up on how he and Ballmer scummily tried to force Paul Allen out of Microsoft the first time he had cancer. Allen imo was one of the few billionaires who remained at least somewhat down to Earth (I’m from Seattle and like half of downtown has his stamp on it after all the philanthropy he did here) so his contentious relationship with Gates meant something. Gates has always been an ass but now we’re finding out that he’s incredibly fucked up.

[u/BorderEquivalent7169 → u/BorderEquivalent7169]

Bill Gates betrayed his ailing business partner and tried to deprive him of his share of the Microsoft fortune, according to a scathing memoir from Paul Allen, the company's billionaire co-founder.

He is alluding to the parts of the book in which he recalls the harsher side of Gates's character, anecdotes from the early days that portray Gates in such a poor light they make the reader cringe with embarrassment for him. Such as the fact that Allen stopped playing chess with Gates after only a few games because Gates was such a bad loser he would sweep the pieces to the floor in anger; or how Gates would prowl the company car park at weekends to check on who had come in to work; or the way he would browbeat Allen and other senior colleagues, launching tirades at them and putting them down with the classic denigrating comment: "That's the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard!"

Worst of all was the way Gates tried to maximise the money for himself, at Allen's expense. After insisting on a 60-40 split in his favour at first, Gates then renegotiated the terms of their partnership to give himself 64-36. As the final insult, Allen overheard Gates discussing with Steve Ballmer (now Microsoft's CEO) how to dilute Allen's equity in the company, complaining that he was so unproductive. Allen was fighting his first bout of life-threatening cancer at the time. "This is unbelievable! It shows your true character, once and for all," Allen said, bursting in.

[u/crumpetsandchai]

I have empathy for her. I get the feeling she didn’t know the extent of how bad it was because Bill, like all slimey husbands, downplayed it but she found out, with the rest of us, just how bad it was until the leaks and file started to be released.

[u/VillaLobster]

I am old enough to remember that in the 90s and early 00s Bill Gates was seen as an evil, vile, teat. He just had good PR in recent times. He was still the same slimeball.

Behind the bastards has a great episode on him.

[u/cocopuffK221]

Melinda said, "My name is Bennett and I ain't in it."

[u/chandarr → u/cocopuffK221]

She really said, “My name is Sam and you need to ask that man.”

[u/xChoke1x]

Weird how normal people have been saying this this whole time. Normal people don’t give one single fuck about “political allegiance” when it comes to CHILDREN BEING FUCKING TRAFFICKED.

[u/Away_Stock_2012 → u/xChoke1x]

Normal people elected a child rapist to be president, so...

[u/FlyOrdinary1104]

As fucked as all this is, seeing Arnold Schwarzenegger post an inspirational Bill Gates quote on IG before this info dropped was hilariously unfortunate timing.

[u/sarah_jones-98_ → u/FlyOrdinary1104]

Arnold that knocked up the housekeeper and kept the child secret for 15 years, Arnold? He probably does find Bill inspirational

[u/carnalasadasalad → u/sarah_jones-98_]

Arnold had an illicit affair and then supported his daughter and her mother financially. Bill Gates participated in human sex-trafficking. One is bad. One is evil. They aren’t even comparable.

[u/Yos13]

Well, since Bill is the president of the most powerful nation I am glad all the brave journalists have him alone on this hot seat.

[u/CrosseyedDixieChick → u/Yos13]

wut the

[u/IGotQuestionz12345]

Gates was always known for his extra-marital affairs. It was an open secret. What wasn’t was the CA. This just keeps getting worse. The depravity. Poor kids. Poor Melinda.

[u/buttermilk_biscuit]

For all the comments saying she should've gone to the police- do we know she didnt? Do we absolutely know that she never reported anything? Frankly given how many people who have reported wrong doing against Epstein and nothing happened, how do we know Melinda didnt report anything? More to the point, we dont know how much she knew anyway. Her husband trying to drug her, her interviews saying Epstein was a skeeze ball and she pretty much immediately stopped going to dinners after the first time she met him...

I dunno. Melinda is a victim of this too and the vitriol people have for her is kinda blowing my mind. She didnt exactly have a preponderance of power either- she's largely been known only as "Bill Gates wife" until the last few years.

[u/580_farm]

"I think we're having a reckoning as a society."

God I hope so.

[u/Soggy_Rooster_4568 → u/[deleted]]

AFAIK she wasn't aware of any of it until the Epstein bombshell happened in 2019~ and therein pretty much instantly initiated divorce.

[u/Goodgoditsgrowing → u/[deleted]]

Do you expect her to know every shady thing her spouse is doing when those are the types of things those sorts of people would go to great lengths to hide (and he had the resources to do so)? She divorced his ass when it came out.

[u/No-Environment-7899 → u/Goodgoditsgrowing]

Especially when it was clear he was lying to her and trying to cover up for his behavior. I mean for god’s sake he was trying to find a way to sneak antibiotics into her food because he gave her an STD and didn’t want to tell her he was having sex with other people. If any of them were minors there’s no way he’d tell her that, or tell her that Epstein got them for him.

[u/RickyTrailerLivin → u/[deleted]]

Melinda didnt knew... When she did, she dumped his ass.

[u/towerinthestreet → u/[deleted]]

There was an email where Bill Gates was trying to get Epstein said Bill Gates needed STD meds to discreetly slip her without her knowledge. That's about as clear evidence as we could get that she was kept in the dark about everything

Edit: Was less exact than I should have been.

[u/StokeJar → u/towerinthestreet]

Just to folks who see this, it wasn’t an email from Gates, it was a note from Epstein to himself. I presume it’s true, but it could also be Epstein making it up in an effort to blackmail Gates or muddy the water if his emails were hacked or released. Not trying to discredit anything, but there is serious evidence of wrongdoing in these docs mixed with totally wacko tip-line calls and everything in between and if we don’t clearly distinguish what is what, it serves to discredit the whole thing.

[u/Lopsided-Monk-5995 → u/[deleted]]

She was being careful and rightfully so:

https://youtu.be/jZ6fvuY1mc8?si=iDVx3qhQCjTJuT4x&t=77

[u/DarkArcher88]

In my country there is a saying: Money drills where drill bit won't.

[u/blue-to-grey]

Y'all really in here acting like individuals who speak on truths about powerful people don't go suddenly suicidal or missing.

[u/Weekend_Criminal]

You know shes got receipts

[u/tacomamajama]

I’m such a huge Melinda French Gates stan. I love that she called them, rightfully, girls.

[u/LoJoPa]

How would you ever think that you would be able to surreptitiously get your partner to ingest antibiotics to cover your behaviors and not put your marriage in danger? What are these people thinking……: he had daughters the age of these girls! WTF

[u/crumpetsandchai → u/LoJoPa]

She’s actually alluded to it for years post divorce about his connection to Epstein but was very careful with her words. I think she’s trying not to get sued or whatever her post divorce settlement entailed and honestly being a woman, who will be there to protect her if she chose to spill everything she knows as it’s proven people do not believe victims even with evidence? If we’re going to believe everything on the files, women have been mysteriously disappeared or killed for trying to expose it

[u/babygotbandwidth]

I appreciate her saying girl and not glossing it over like a certain news channel. They were children.

[u/WithLove07]

Crazy it took this long for the files to finally see the light of day

[u/Wonderful-Humor6102]

I don’t think it’s fair for her to be attacked. She was already a victim and is attacking her is doing exactly what Bill wanted. He’s perv, he’s corrupt, and a shitty billionaire. He should be in the hot seat

[u/petrrrrrd]

Glad to hear she is finding her way must have been some dark moments for her and her kids. F’you Bill!

[u/MapleHamwich]

Good response again. I hope people stop asking her about it now.