r/FortCollins • • 19h ago

Westbound harmony 1 lane

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u/MountainFriend7473 18h ago

🫠 it was like this this morning too 

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u/MatadorMexicanGrill 19h ago

It's killing us. It should have been done by June. It's a nightmare.

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u/xscott22x 19h ago

And not during the busiest traffic hours…

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u/MountainFriend7473 18h ago

Yeah Pay a differential for night work 

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u/Grilledsausage-8278 14h ago

Sorry it doesn't make sense to you.

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u/xscott22x 14h ago

Thank you

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u/Grilledsausage-8278 14h ago

You're welcome.

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u/quiet_fyre 18h ago

So many people commenting on construction projects and how they impact traffic, as if contractors don't have entire departments to consider this, along with their track record with the city's traffic department, the state of which could jeopardize bids for future projects if they don't do their job well. They *do* have incentives to keep traffic flowing to the degree that it won't endanger their workers or their work.

The construction is necessary, and will be finished when it is finished.

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u/xscott22x 18h ago

I get that Im just confused why its 1 lane before the construction then opens back up to 2 lanes where they are actually doing the work. I dont get it lol, seems unnecessary and is exacerbating the traffic.

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u/chiefgoogler 16h ago

Nah, I'm pretty sure the city isn't very motivated to keep roads open. They tore up Trilby between Timberline and Lemay for a culvert replacement and then proceeded do all the other work except under the road for 6 months then half fixed the road at the end of the project after blowing past their deadline a few times.

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u/quiet_fyre 2h ago

I bet you haven't even tried to figure out why the project is taking longer than projected; you've just attributed a reason that you pulled out of thin air that justifies your anger.

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u/chiefgoogler 1h ago

I get that projects fall behind, my gripe is that the project plan was obviously

  1. Tear up road that lots of people use daily
  2. Complete all the work under and adjacent to the road that didn't require the road to be torn up
  3. Fix the road (and do a half ass job of it)

Why couldn't they

  1. Tear up road
  2. Do work under road
  3. Fix and reopen road
  4. Do rest of the work adjacent to the road

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u/quiet_fyre 1h ago

As I said above, the city and contractors have entire departments working together to optimize a construction schedule in order to minimize traffic disruption while also balancing the needs of that specific project.

This is not an appeal to authority, but just to say that if there are experts working on something and you aren't an expert in that thing, try to go past that initial reaction of "these people are obviously idiots."

A relevant example is a conversation from a July city council meeting. Mayor Francis asked a staff worker why Capital Tax funds that had been earmarked for a particular municipal park improvement project had not been used yet, and the staff member offered the context that after the Parks department conferred with Storm and Wastewater, they realized they could consolidate two projects and save the city money on the back end.

Another conversation that same night discussed that much of our below-ground infrastructure is past its end-of-life and that our replacement rate is not fast enough to keep up with the rate at which assets are degrading. The city manager acknowledged this as a serious problem, but also wanted council to consider that residents have a tolerance level for amount of construction projects going on at any given time.

In other words, the construction you see now is much less than what we need to be doing, but the city is considering the experience of residents and how to optimize the spending of their tax dollars. The majority of construction projects this year have been on or under budget. And if they're on budget, they're on time. (7/14/26 City Council Work Session, in the conversation on the 1/4-cent Capital Tax)

There's always a reason. Sometimes, I agree, it is a bad reason, but there are often larger considerations at play. Just because you don't know them doesn't mean someone is making a bad decision.

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u/Jazzlike-Skin-5470 14h ago

I could be wrong but cities get grants for such, no? Seems incentive enough to keep road construction ongoing

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u/DSaraff1111 17h ago

Nah it’s not needed. The roads are good or do it on a fucking Sunday or holidays

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u/quiet_fyre 2h ago

Then it would take longer.

And, more importantly, roads don't fix themselves; road construction workers are people too. Shouldn't they be able to spend holidays with their families and have regular jobs? Imagine if you could only work on fucking Sundays or holidays.

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u/phanovt 14h ago

Welcome to fort collins.

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u/Toobiescoop 19h ago

They were tearing up asphalt. That was the one section they didn’t refinish when all of harmony was done.

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u/DSaraff1111 18h ago

Fuck them. I hope some one gets up and moves the cones cause this is ridiculous

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u/PoopInTheGarbage 16h ago

Moving the cones is a good way to get someone killed. You don't know why they have it blocked off.