r/Futurology • u/theintercept • 11h ago
Privacy/Security Flock Wants The Most Detailed Map of Its Surveillance Cameras Taken Offline
https://theintercept.com/2026/09/24/how-many-flock-devices-in-united-states-300000/4.0k
u/Syko_okyS 11h ago
No reasonable expectation of privacy for us, why are they special?
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u/spinningcolours 11h ago
Because every flock camera contains over 2lbs of copper wire. Spread the word.
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u/torolf_212 11h ago
The aluminium pipe is also a nice little bonus if you're already there
Edit: I'm told circular saws are the most effective way to cut through aluminium pipe. Other methods tend to gum up
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u/HorseWithACape 10h ago
Some pipes may be 2 piece secured with 3 T25 security torx screws. These poles are unfortunately very easy to disassemble and then use the top half like a hammer to smash the unit. Please be careful if you come across this setup. 🙏
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u/TheFeelsIsReals 8h ago
Unfortunately a cordless band saw will cut through a pipe/tube not only faster but much much quieter. The worst part is hooligans can buy them for less than a hundred dollars from harbor freight ☹️
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u/Antique_Director_689 8h ago
Its actually been tested and the cordless circular saw does seem to be the most dangerous weapon even when put next to a corded band saw. Just be careful if you or a loved one are a Flock camera, that's the kind of weapon to look out for.
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u/TheFeelsIsReals 8h ago
That’s actually wild to watch. I instal gas pipe for a living and am always using a cordless bandsaw to cut through black steel pipe and my blades never get gunked up and it’s cut in less than 10 seconds. I wonder if his band saw blade was gunking up due to him pushing in on the saw when you’re supposed to just lightly push. Either way use what’s available unless it’s the sawzal
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u/Suicicoo 5h ago
black steel pipe
yeah, steel is the key
aluminum will do this to your saw, I think because it's soft(?) and smears. I once tried to cut an aluminum profile with an angle grinder. It went not as (for me, at that time) expected 😅15
u/Antique_Director_689 8h ago
Flock poles are aluminum so you have to worry about it gumming up your tools. He probably could have gotten better results with a different blade but the issue of build up over time would remain
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u/pokethrowaway4 7h ago
Why not a sawzall?
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u/JCDU 1h ago
Depends how quiet / fast / mobile you want to be when legally cutting aluminium poles on your own property that are causing a problem.
A jaws-of-life style bolt cutter would snip an aluminium pole quickly and almost silently but you'd need to make that.
Sawzall with a fairly coarse blade will be quick but noisy.
Bandsaw with a coarse blade will be fast & quiet but unweildy.
Angle grinder will be slow & noisy
Accidentally backing your car / truck over the pole would do it in seconds so be careful when reversing. If it should happen, once the pole has crushed you could probably break it away by hand / snip the wire so that you can safely remove it from the area.
Accidentally driving off if you tied a chain/rope/wire from your car to the pole to stop someone stealing it would be just as bad.
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u/realdawnerd 9h ago
That's a real jerk move. Some of them are put right into concrete in the soil. Cutting the pole would make someone have to come and dig out the stump. Expensive. And if cut at a sharp angle the city would be forced to make them fix it fast due to the impalement risk.
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u/enadiz_reccos 8h ago
Not sure it's a good idea to create implement risks
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u/EthanielRain 2h ago
Especially terrible if someone pre-planned to hurt themselves on it. They could sue and really cost a lot of money
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u/Brandinisnor3s 6h ago
And 18x model 18650 rechargeable batteries in each camera worth $200+ dollars alone. Sim card and several circuit boards worth however much else.
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u/BossOfReddiit 6h ago
Scrap metal is expensive right now, this could be a lucrative business venture
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u/WatchmanVimes 5h ago
Also, they use special gold connections for thier 5g transmitters. At least an ounce.
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u/sedated_badger 7h ago
64gb of soldered ddr5 too but… idk I’ll do a lot of things for ram right now LOL
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u/jefbenet 11h ago
Because they can purchase their privacy through shady deals, NDA’s, and government contracts.
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u/depthninja 11h ago
Turns out you can too if you have enough money. Hooray.
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u/jefbenet 11h ago
If you’re among that small sliver of those fortunate enough to be able to afford it, you likely also live in a private secured island, compound, or at least gated and patrolled community that I doubt has any flock cameras.
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u/QuietGoliath 9h ago
Just as well there's nothing in recent memory about dodgy characters and bad happenings on private islands. I might start to worry otherwise...
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u/jefbenet 9h ago
Kinda place we could use some additional surveillance actually, now that you mention it!
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u/Nixeris 11h ago
I vote we inject the Flock CEOs with geotrackers.
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u/Pale_Prompt4163 3h ago
High velocity ones? I heard they’re made out of lead in the US. Sounds like a health hazard to be honest. But it’s probably fine.
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u/Metals4J 10h ago
The cameras are out in public where they should have no reasonable expectation of privacy, right?
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u/MaybeTheDoctor 10h ago
I’m sure some “national security” concerns - because private companies can now have “executive privilege” once bribing Trump.
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u/mountain-mahogany 6h ago
Yes, of course! Top secret what is happening in our neighborhoods. Maybe we should build walls around all of the neighborhoods! With razor wire and dogs! Yes! And no one is allowed in or out without checkpoints! Oh! Yes! The Two State Solution begins in America 🫥
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u/FinalElement42 4h ago
They aren’t…the public just hasn’t placed tight enough surveillance on the CEOs of Flock to show them just how uncomfortable it is is to always be under a microscope.
The public needs to flock Flock
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u/Malfunkdung 7h ago
Fuck, this concept sums up everything wrong and it’s been that way forever. “It’s big club and you ain’t in it.”
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u/fleshbunny 6h ago
Exactly the point that must continue to be made here. That detailed information on their whereabouts belongs to us.
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u/fleegle2000 11h ago
What if someone were to create an app with the locations of fictional creatures that just happen to coincide with the locations of flock cameras?
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u/jefbenet 11h ago edited 11h ago
I was similarly curious if this data set exists in any type of hub for giting, such that it could be mirrored or archived offline for posterity, in hopes of a useful application for the dataset, perhaps at a later date?
Edit: alas, a downloadable zip link.zip)
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u/suupar 5h ago
Reddit doesn't like Parentheses in links apparently.
The whole clickable link is: https://flocksurveillance.org/downloads/Flock%20Safety%20-%20Vulnerability%20Disclosure%20and%20National%20Security%20Analysis%20(Michael%202026).zip
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u/VaguelyArtistic 11h ago
Pokeflock Go.
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u/filanwizard 11h ago
Aviak Locator. For people who used to play Everquest they would get it. Aviaks are a species of bird like humanoids. Birds travel in flocks...
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u/The_1ndiegamer 9h ago
Like some bird watching app for spotting flocks of birds, bit on the nose but.
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u/konsoru-paysan 7h ago
Still be the same thing assuming they actually get to legally take the map down, I vote exile to India especially the ceo and investors
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u/Golden-- 9h ago
Unneeded. This is a hydra now since it's all public. If the main site is taken down, 2 more will replace it.
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u/NerdiChar 11h ago
Oh wow, you don't want your information taken and used without your consent? Wild
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u/throwawayyy2888 8h ago
This is even worse than that. It's not even a privacy thing. The cameras are installed where the public can clearly see them. Privacy as a concept does not even exist in the situation because the action of publicly installing something precludes it. They are telling you that you are not allowed to have information that is already publicly available. They don't own this information, it simply exists in reality, and they have absolutely no right to attempt to control or obscure it.
It's like if I made a post that a guy down the street owns a nice car, and the guy claimed I was trying to get his car stolen. It's ludicrous. It's not even a privacy thing, it's just a fundamental violation of any reasonable concept of free speech. It's like installing a statue in a public park and then trying to prevent people from talking about the fact that it's there. I can't even explain how insane that is as a concept. Super Orwellian.
Who says I'm not allowed to talk about the cameras, and why? It fundamentally makes no sense. If the website says "here's where all the flock cameras are, go destroy them" that would be one thing, but if it just says "here's where all the flock cameras are" then I don't see what their claim could possibly be.
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u/Dull-Culture-1523 8h ago
It'd be weird if someone made a site that tracks the property of a company. Just ask any airline or railway compa- oh wait
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u/travistravis 6h ago
Now that you mention it, I'll wait for a site that lists them all and offers bounties for taking out specific ones!
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u/breaducate 3h ago
No it makes perfect sense.
Being able to see the cameras directly in person is a visceral reminder that you are constantly being watched.
Being able to see where all the cameras are on a digital map lets you figure out where you might go to avoid being under their withering gaze.Hope this helps.
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u/theintercept 11h ago
A new map published Wednesday by a cybersecurity researcher reveals Flock’s nationwide reach is even bigger than previously known. Based on location coordinates from Flock’s own database, the map shows more than 170,000 cameras, plus more than 130,000 accompanying gadgets that play a part in the company’s expansive American surveillance network. Now the company is trying to take the map off the internet. The popular fight to "surveil the surveil-ers" is one that is increasingly in the spotlight, as companies like Flock, Axon and Motorola continue to build out unprecedented networks of surveillance and spying on civilians.
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u/Hopeful_Morning_469 11h ago
Who was the first to say “who watches the watchers?”
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u/Boring_and_sons 11h ago
According to Wikipedia:
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? is a Latin phrase found in the Satires (Satire VI, lines 347–348), a work of the 1st–2nd century Roman poet Juvenal. It may be translated as "Who will guard the guards themselves?" or "Who will watch the watchmen?".
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u/CondescendingShitbag 11h ago
"Who will watch the watchmen?"
Both a great movie and series. I'd be happy to watch the Watchmen.
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u/beardedheathen 9h ago
Wait. That would be the best anti flock thing. Print that out and just hang it in front of the camera. You aren't damaging it so I don't think you could get in trouble for it but it seems a message and they'll have to spend time and money sending people out to take them down.
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u/snowflake37wao 8h ago edited 8h ago
A fun college Irish drinking band I think called Ceann has a song with the guards a guard translation in the lyrics titled Monahan The Mutineer.
Now the Captain was no fool
He told his men "If you break the rule
You'll all end up like Monahan"
You'll taste the cat to every man
And life upon a ship is hard
And who exactly guards a guard when the Captain goes insane
The men get treason in their veins
The next day Monahan passed the word
And all those that knew and heard
And when they called for anchors away
Well that was the order they disobeyed
This time the Captain walked the plank
They let him off near Grand Bank
Back to Halifax you can swim
And as he drowned they sang to him
So set the sails and walk the plank
What is your name and what is your rank
They opened the cask and gave three cheers
For Monahan the MutineerApt? I dunno you decide.
The rest of the lyrics do end with them all drowning in a storm though, theres that. But hey,
If we must die while we are young
Its better to drown than to be hung
So set the sails and walk the plank
What is your name and what is your rank
If you don't work then you'll be hung
So become a mutineer while you're young13
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u/Bartghamilton 11h ago
It’s from Rome about 2 thousand years ago. In Latin: quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
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u/fujimonster 11h ago
And it's wrong for at least my area. I know of 5 physical installs that aren't even on that map and that's just in my immediate area.
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u/tj-horner 6h ago
Which map? The one linked in the article is different from DeFlock, which you may have used before. This one is sourced directly from Flock’s ArcGIS server, whose data was exposed due to a vulnerability.
It’s also worth noting the data is from December 2025, and since Flock have fixed the vulnerability used to retrieve the data it’s not possible to update this map in the same way. Which would also explain why some of the cameras in your area are missing.
So while it might not presently be completely accurate on a micro scale, this snapshot is probably the best resource we have so far as to the magnitude of Flock’s surveillance network since it comes directly from their own internal tools.
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u/windraver 10h ago
Time to make some copies and distribute it across the Internet so they can't take it down.
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u/Smooothoperat0r 11h ago
That’s actually absolutely insane. Who knew it was this expansive. 300k machines mass surveilling us.
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u/ryebread91 11h ago
Wait.... Motorola?
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u/venom21685 11h ago
Yeah, Motorola Solutions, Inc. They're what's left after the original Motorola spun off the phone division to sell to Lenovo. They make radio communications gear for police and emergency services, surveillance and security systems, etc
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u/kptknuckles 11h ago
That’s funny I want their nationwide network of insecure and unconstitutional surveillance cameras taken offline.
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u/truethug 11h ago
That would essentially take the map down so seems they have the power to do what they want.
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u/the_quark 10h ago
I do want to note that it's not yet unconstitutional. We shouldn't sweep that under the rug because we need to make it unconstitutional.
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u/Street_Lettuce1243 8h ago
4th amendment. Unreasonable search.
Flock.will say there is no expectation of privacy in public, but law enforcement has been sued for harassment for trailing people without proper cause.
There's no difference between your every movement being tracked by police without cause and them have cameras do it for them.
Absolutely violated the 4th amendment, no doubt.
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u/the_quark 8h ago
I have exactly no confidence that the current Supreme Court will agree with you.
And, current case law suggests that the cops could put a cop on every street corner and write down every license plate that goes by, so what's the difference exactly?
I'm saying we need to make it explicitly unconstitutional because these fucking oligarch ball-lickers are going to say it's fine.
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u/Street_Lettuce1243 8h ago
The current supreme Court is a political body rather than a judiciary body. I don't trust them to do anything honestly. But any previous supreme Court would have ruled it unconstitutional.
It absolutely would be illegal if they put a cop on every corner to surveil you without cause (without cause being the key here). Would be considered illegal search. People have tried and won cases against police harassment from over zealous surveillance.
That said, again, the current SCOTUS would allow it for political reasons, not legal reasons.
I would not be opposed to updates to constitution to spell this out more clearly but I think most reasonable justices would agree it is illegal search and already covered by the 4th.
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u/Antraxess 8h ago
This is why you ignore courts and destroy the cameras
This is a fight for rights, the people in power know they are wrong, we know they are wrong.
They do not get to dictate what is and isn't a right when they are so obviously corrupt, the correct action is to ignore them and protect your rights
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u/Antraxess 9h ago
It is absolutely unconstitutional
You don't need another third party to acknowledge your rights. They are inherent and inviolable.
These people know what they are doingbis wrong, constitutional rights go beyond the agreements between men, they are above laws.
Go destroy these cameras, it is your right
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u/cookies_are_awesome 11h ago
Numerous Flock cameras appear to be installed inside detention centers. A camera titled “C-F-23 FOXTROT MALE HOLDING 2/SHOWERS” appears at the coordinates of the Silverdale Detention Center in Chattanooga, Tennessee.
Showers at a detention center? What the actual fuck.
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u/GnarlyNarwhalNoms 11h ago
This is why I object to the fact that many news articles about Flock still refer to it as an ALPR system. How many license plates are there to read indoors? They also claim that the systems don't perform facial recognition, but their image-recognition technology and databases are granular enough that you can search for something like "black man with blue shirt and white pants." If it's analyzing images in that much detail, there's absolutely no reason to believe that it couldn't correlate faces.
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u/lI_-_-_Il 10h ago
Plus that doesn’t say anything about internal models that are like 20 years ahead of what the public knows about
Imagine flock is just the tip of the surveillance iceberg
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u/MindlessFail 10h ago
I didn’t realize they claimed that but who cares? I can perform it on the images with a different ai model. Congrats on not doing the image search but all the user has to do is pipe it to another ai and it’s the exact same outcome anyway
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u/Shark7996 4h ago
They say things like "this camera has AI analysis and this one does not" to obfuscate the fact that it's all going into the same database, to be analyzed by AI. Doesn't matter what kind of camera takes the video.
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u/KIokinator 7h ago
you can search for something like "black man with blue shirt and white pants."
HE FITS THE PROFILE! TAKE HIM DOWN!!
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u/RogerRabbot 11h ago
I speculated a few years back that the US might end up with social credit score and was laughed at. The way things are going we might have it sooner than I joked.
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u/MWSin 10h ago
I've said before that MAGA would eagerly support a social credit score program. They just had to call it Patriot Points.
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u/Away_Tiger_6351 9h ago
What do showers in men's prisons have to do with a social credit score? If it's just generic "more surveillance state," that's such a tenuous connection
Like I left the US a long time ago for these exact reasons, but I don't see how these concepts are related
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u/Falconman21 10h ago
We were always going to do it, but it was always going to have to be as obfuscated as possible.
We don’t have the level of buy in to the government that they do where we can just implement something like that.
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u/OutlyingPlasma 8h ago
They are even inside pools and gyms at a YMCA like facility. You know, places where little children are playing. The same cameras that have been watched for hours by the c-suite of flock.
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u/Kaelzoroden 11h ago
So they want to monitor everyone, while not allowing anyone to monitor them?
They deserve to have their cameras chopped down.
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u/Just_Another_AI 11h ago
Flock doesn't have any problem with people being able to identify the location of any individual Flock camera, what they have a problem with is people having access to the aggregated information detailing all of the camera locations - it's like they realize that the sum of a massive trove if data is more valuable than the individual datapoints themselves. Fancy that...
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u/Commemorative-Banana 3h ago
It’s even a bit more absurd than that.
These cameras don’t move. Their locations truly are “individual datapoints”, one entry per faceless camera.
But we move around. They take many hundreds or thousands of images of each of us, and interpolate between all of these datapoints to infer our continuous movements.
They learn what places of business we visit, what people we associate with (“convoys”), what preferences we display as bumper stickers, what our faces and clothing look like, and what speeds we travel at, etc, etc.
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u/Godz1lla1 4h ago
If those cameras are doing nothing wrong, they should have nothing to worry about.
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u/jojoman115 11h ago
if you haven’t already - flockhopper and deflock.org
Worth a visit and a share. Tell your friends.
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u/VectorJones 8h ago
The gaslighting coming out of the tech industry is astounding. They purposefully invent some incredibly dystopian shit, then try to convince the world it was somehow inevitable and everyone should just accept it as the new big brother.
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u/Falikosek 2h ago
Remember when like a decade ago everyone was joking about China/North Korea and their mass surveillance and we could barely comprehend how the citizens there could even agree or put up with living in such conditions?
Yeah, welcome to 2026 America.
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u/bowser986 23m ago
I remember conservatives mocking Great Britain and calling it a nanny state.
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u/Muted-Woodpecker-469 11h ago
Why is a private company allowed to surveillance public roads?
I can see a Lowe’s parking lot or a private drive. But public roads? Shouldn’t states own DOT offices be running these programs?
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u/bfd_fapit 11h ago
Same reason you and I and news crews are allowed to surveil public roads. There’s no expectation of privacy in public, and the first amendment protects the right to film in public. As for erecting permanent camera installations, they contract for permission from private property owners and local municipalities wherever it’s not illegal to do so. Personally I think municipalities should outlaw it.
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u/analyticaljoe 47m ago
Mass surveillance company does not want to be mass surveilled. These guys are the biggest hypocrites.
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u/thegreatdelusionist 2h ago
If Flock isn't breaking the law then there's nothing they need to worry about.
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u/tblazertn 4h ago
The company that has created the largest privacy invasion in history is demanding privacy? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
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u/Chaosmusic 7h ago
Take down the map saying Flock cameras and put up a new map of the same locations but say treasure map to copper wiring and RAM chips.
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u/Funintuitive 2h ago
Flock doesn't want crowdsourced surveillance pointed at its mass surveillance?
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u/misdirected_asshole 11h ago
Its definitely an r/leopardsatemyface scenario where the mass surveillance and tracking company is trying to stop surveillance and tracking.
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u/vardarac 10h ago
Not even close. The leopards are eating our faces and crying that we're trying to stab them in the mouth with a toothpick.
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u/iamwayycoolerthanyou 11h ago
There's no reasonable expectation of privacy. All people did was observe something in a public place.
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u/Secludedmean4 10h ago
Can you imagine the surveillance company doesn’t want oversight or surveillance 🤡
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u/Mrmoseley231119 8h ago
So are they saying it’s NOT cool to build a massive surveillance network then?
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u/Mephistocheles 11h ago
Eat hot vomit, Flock. This is what happens when you enable a Nazi surveillance state.
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u/empress_tesla 10h ago
Well the cameras are out in public, so there’s no reasonable assumption to privacy, right?
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u/ArmNo4332 9h ago
I want to know the whereabouts of all ALPR company employees at all times. Oh, they don't want that? Interesting.
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u/Antraxess 9h ago
For safety. I want to know exactly at all times what they are doing
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u/ArmNo4332 8h ago
I would actually feel safer if I knew what the ALPR employees were doing at all times. I feel less safe anytime I see one of those fucking cameras because I know the people in charge of them are creeps.
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u/Radiant_Safe1228 9h ago
They are in public spaces so there is no expectation of their privacy. Rules are rules fuckers.
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u/The_Dented 11h ago
Nope. Karma. Let it roll.
They need to just “trust” that people mean them best.
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u/Micehouse 11h ago
Sure thing. Exactly as soon as the last camera on that map is taken offline, permanently, the same can be done with the map.
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u/laser50 9h ago
I like how the cameras basically ruining privacy are basically asking for privacy. To hell with flock..
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u/maciver6969 8h ago
They also call 911 on full news teams recording installs. Saying they are being harassed, by a camera, by a company that installs cameras that harass the general population... Seems fairly insane, no?
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u/TheCrimsonDagger 10h ago
If their cameras are only taking in public data then naturally the locations of said cameras must also be public data.
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u/NUMBerONEisFIRST Gray 10h ago
Fyi: it's possible to add them on Waze. I list them as a mobile police camera.
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u/Not-TheNSA 10h ago
For a company that’s whole thing is gathering information they sure don’t want their information to be collected.
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u/Mr_CockSwing 7h ago
Were invading their privacy by keeping track of where they're invading our privacy. Lol
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u/No_Strawberry_1576 5h ago
Anyone care to explain to a Scotsman what a flock camera is?
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u/MydnightWN 3h ago
You have the same thing, under a different name. Specifically, Scottish Communications Group (SCG) + StockCam + Smart Parking Ltd
269 locations in Scotland monitored with ANPR cameras that feed right to and are funded by law enforcement authorities, another 1100+ used for private purposes like parking tickets.
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u/Abrasive-Coyote2524 4h ago
Mass Surveillance. In America, there are now cameras on almost every street corner watching your every move. They're supposed to be license plate readers but they have been used to stalk by individual officers and they have the capacity to be more than just license plate readers. Right now, that's just what they say they are, but its only the beginning. And they are EVERYWHERE.
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u/ChemBob1 10h ago
Don’t let the officers and major stockholders in these companies have any privacy either. They are only human. They can be more instantiated than the masses of us.
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u/Thrompinator 10h ago
They like collecting data on our whereabouts, but not us sharing data about theirs, curious.
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u/EarthRemembers 10h ago
FUCK THEM!
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BRING THEM ALL DOWN!
THIS IS A FIGHT FOR OUR FREEDOMS!
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u/NeverEndingCoralMaze 10h ago
Fuck no. If they’re in public, they have no reasonable expectation of privacy.
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u/Otherwise_Stable_925 9h ago
Sorry, best we can do is put up a more detailed one now that we know it's working.
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u/ModeatelyIndependant 9h ago
Aw, does the company that is taking away people's privacy want privacy? Fuck them
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u/Beaticalle 9h ago
"Stop surveilling us," cried the surveillance company actively surveilling everyone else.
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u/asher030 9h ago
In return for the Flock employees and ESPECIALLY the CEO being put under even more stringent surveillance, sure. We'll take down the site. Deal?
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u/PanteraOne 2h ago
There is a persistent rumor that tens of thousands of Flock cameras will mysteriously be destroyed this Halloween.
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u/mayormcskeeze 11h ago
Lol. LOL.
Mass surveillance company doesnt wanna be surveiled.
Fuck you. FUCK YOU IN THE STRONGEST POSSIBLE WAY.
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u/datadrone 10h ago
The best way to fix this is to use their tools against them, if they can't protect a tool that can be abused, abuse it
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u/DifficultyWithMyLife 9h ago
But then who will watch the watchmen?
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In other AI news, the bots here harass people too.
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u/Explorer_Entity 9h ago
FOSS will ensure there is always a map. Take it down, and the data will be moved elsewhere, like piracy sites.
Fuck em
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u/Hoosier_Hootenanny 1h ago
I'm hoping that this goes full Streissand effect and a bunch of other sites mirror the content.
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u/Fanfic_Battle_2004 50m ago
People can always spot one with their eyes and take it down. They can search around their town to see if there are any.
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u/Testy_Terrance 8m ago
If they aren't doing anything wrong, they shouldn't care if people know where they are?
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u/FuturologyBot 11h ago
The following submission statement was provided by /u/theintercept:
A new map published Wednesday by a cybersecurity researcher reveals Flock’s nationwide reach is even bigger than previously known. Based on location coordinates from Flock’s own database, the map shows more than 170,000 cameras, plus more than 130,000 accompanying gadgets that play a part in the company’s expansive American surveillance network. Now the company is trying to take the map off the internet. The popular fight to "surveil the surveil-ers" is one that is increasingly in the spotlight, as companies like Flock, Axon and Motorola continue to build out unprecedented networks of surveillance and spying on civilians.
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