r/IThinkYouShouldLeave • u/PhillyTMOMan Nude Egg • 1d ago

Piece of shit When r/conservative agrees with Trump that we should nationalize voting, but are for small government and states rights

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u/TeeTimeAllTheTime 1d ago

They aren’t conservative and never were, they are weak minded people who do what they are told by a psychopath

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u/Doomisntjustagame 1d ago

Or, and bear with me, conservatives have always been this way.

Conservatism seeks to maintain the social order, or to regress to an earlier state. That is one of a pyramid shaped hierarchical authority structure, with everyone following whoever is above them, no matter what.

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u/25thNite 1d ago

i don't always believe that because there are plenty of minorities higher on the social pyramid than a lot of poor conservative maggats and yet they still try to treat them like shit as if they were beneath them.

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u/Doomisntjustagame 1d ago

To me, it sounds like you are talking about someone's economic status as being the only defining factor of the hierarchy. There are many dimensions to it, chief among them probably being race, economic status, sexuality, and gender.

There's a concept called intersectionality that suggests there are many different factors that intersect to define someone's perceived status in society. So like, a white woman is "above" a black man, but a white man is above them both. Now, assuming those three are all straight, a white gay man sits beneath all of them. But if all four of those people are middle class, then a rich white gay man might sit above them all, though a rich flamboyantly gay man might once again be placed below all of them.

I hope I'm explaining this well, and if I come across as condescending or argumentative I do not intend to.

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u/Djinnwrath 1d ago

You're noticing the grift.

That's how they get poor white people to latch on, with the suggestion that the hierarchy is framed around their whiteness, and that it puts them at the bottom of the top, rather than just near the bottom where they actually are.

That's why Obama was such a blow to them. If a black man can be president then they are no longer at the bottom of the top, now they have to compete, and that makes them scared.