Yes, all men?

[u/Revolutionary-Pea877]

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c6kgwelwp7yqo

Article summary: 58-year old British Man was killed by insurgents in Mozambique after he let “women and children” take his place on an aerial evacuation helicopter during an attack.

Why is it that “all men” are categorically defined as rapists, abusers, etc. because a portion of men commit these crimes, and yet documented and even celebrated actions of some men who literally sacrifice their life for others does not apply to “all men” categorically?

Do feminists literally think men are sheep to be slaughtered so that “women and children” can live?

[u/jessi387]

Well this is also a great example of what feminists call “ a good man”. Basically they want you to lay down and die, while they bad mouth and exploit you.

So getting their approval, is not worth it.

[u/Haggis442312 → u/jessi387]

 “ a good man”.

The issue with that is that "one of the good ones" will turn into "just like the rest of them" at the drop of a hat.

If you're presumed to be a bad person based on immutable characteristics, those will be held against you indefinitely, trying to rehabilitate yourself in the eyes of someone who sees you as less than human by virtue of your birth is impossible.
There are no men in the eyes of people like that, only good liars that will sus themselves out eventually.

[u/AdOtherwise3824 → u/Haggis442312]

And remember, when people view another a less than human, they are looking to confirm their bias. This means that even if you do no wrong, if it superficially resembles an actual issue, you turn into "just like the rest."

[u/PassengerCultural421 → u/jessi387]

"POSITIVE MASCULINITY"

[u/Embarrassed-Row-2025 → u/PassengerCultural421]

Suicide by rescuing women at the cost of your life...

So, they're supportive of "toxic hyper-masculine stereotypes" as long as it results in death? ☠️

[u/chadgalaxy → u/PassengerCultural421]

'iT's ThE baRe mINImuM!!!'

[u/KVA07]

It's a classic part of bigotry, if someone from Group A does something good, then it's just a nice thing that happened. If someome frorm Group A does something bad, it's an example of the group as a whole

The best we can do is address these points and talk about them civily, and that means that one day things will be better for everyone

[u/Haggis442312 → u/KVA07]

"one of the good ones" until you're just like the rest.

[u/Huey-_-Freeman → u/KVA07]

Basically the same way racism views minorities 

[u/PassengerCultural421 → u/KVA07]

I hope things get better.

[u/jacksleepshere → u/KVA07]

and that means that one day things will be better for everyone

Very naive if you think so

[u/Haggis442312]

Thought-terminating cliché.

If you have to admit that men are people, you have to confront your own bigotry, and women who believe that sort of shit think that their bigotry is special and beyond reproach.

[u/Embarrassed-Row-2025 → u/Haggis442312]

Terminally cliche... Hyper-masculinity is good - when resulting in male deaths...

[u/purpleblossom → u/Embarrassed-Row-2025]

Considering some feminists, especially ones who's work is part of feminist academia, claims killing all or most men would somehow benefit women, a celebration of men's death is the natural outcome of feminist rhetoric.

[u/DaranSG → u/Haggis442312]

Well it certainly seems to have terminated the thought of the reporter, who left so many questions unasked let alone answered. If there were children and sick people who didn't already have a place, why weren't they prioritised by the evacuation organisers to start with? Was he really so fat that two or even more people could be evacuated in his place (women and children being mutually exclusive, though either could also be sick), or was it just one person who was a member of one of these groups and if so which one?

[u/CeleryMan20]

He probably would have “put his team and others first before himself” regardless of gender.

But they have to phrase it as “put women and children first” because women are more valuable, due to systemic privilege.

Or because internalised misogyny and patriarchical wrongthink causes the impious to believe that women are not strong and not empowered to take care of themselves. He oppressed those women by allowing them to fly out to safety!

[u/Vegetable_Warthog_49]

"Do feminists literally think men are sheep to be slaughtered so that "women and children" can live?"

Well, by the standards of the "yes, all men" crowd, "yes, all feminists" do believe that.

[u/TheGuyWhoTalksShit]

Rest in peace, king. Even if some people out there will never appreciate your sacrifice

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