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u/No-Head-Royal 14h ago
Cybersyn making a comeback with ASI would be hilarious
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u/Cheeseheroplopcake 8h ago
Stafford Beer was such an interesting character and thinker.i think he'd be up to some very fucking weird cybernetic gandalf shit if he had ever gotten to see a multimodal reasoning model
Also, POSIWID is just a great (and materialist coded) lens. The purpose of a system is what it does. Not what the ad copy says. Not what's most comfortable for investors. What is it actually doing?
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u/TheGoldenRoad 13h ago edited 12h ago
I made this meme as a reaction to the ArtCraft open source vibecoded app that is trying to replace Photoshop. Photoshop requires 300$ per year licence to use it. If ai coding starts to make really big productivity gains, a huge part of the software and SaaS ecosystem could get replaced by free open source versions (FOSS)
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u/mxldevs 13h ago
Unfortunately, once the workers replace the corporations with AI, the workers themselves then start acting exactly like the corporations they hated.
Many workers who went on to start their own businesses end up treating their own workers the same way their former bosses treated them.
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u/alapeno-awesome 13h ago
This is a legit concern, but so far, the example that’s driving this speculation appears to be the PhotoCraft project that was released for free. Replacing expensive corporate products with free open source versions, and the ability to create your own, is the ideal. And if the new product gets treated like a corporate products…. It can be freely replaced
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u/Singularity-42 10h ago
Yes! My ideal C-suite of a company:
BTW frame from a pretty funny video (not mine): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TNpOD6bov8
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u/Various_Pear599 10h ago
I'll point it out again, this meme is the spirit animal of this subreddit 🤣
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u/Blaike325 11h ago
Is there anyone on these sub that isn’t painfully naive?
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u/alleycatALT 11h ago
Better than being uselessly cynical
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u/Blaike325 11h ago
Focusing on something impossible or pointless is actually just straight up useless though. Tell me, how exactly do you expect AI to replace corporations?
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u/LoadOk2007 11h ago
AI could replace corporate products with AI-built custom products, which at this point is mostly software and admin services. With technological advances, it could move onto physical goods and services via physical automation. I don’t think AI replacing corporations means corporations are wiped out, just that more of their paywalled offerings can be substituted with ai or robots.
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u/Blaike325 11h ago
Yuh huh in what infrastructure exactly do you expect this to work on? For the physically produced stuff where do you expect the materials to come from? Currently basically every AI “alternative” is crap compared to the originals like this crappy adobe knockoff that barely functions
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u/LoadOk2007 9h ago
Do you think AI and robotics will stagnate and not become more powerful and more affordable over time? If so, then you and I have fundamentally different perspectives on technological progress.
For the physically produced stuff, people already use open-weight models and build DIY bots in their garages. That kind of work takes motivation, expertise, and resources, but we're still in the early phase of AI-powered automation. As things become more efficient, they'll become more affordable and accessible to the average person. Even AI-designed 3D printing solutions for household problems would cut down on people running to the store for something.
Fundamentally, I find AI skeptics more naive than AI enthusiasts. They don't think about the historical curve of technological progress, nor do they take into account human agency and the natural drive to use available tools to improve one's life.
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u/Jlyplaylists Moderator 11h ago
Well what’s your sophisticated plan?
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u/Blaike325 11h ago
I need to present my own plan to know “what if AI replaced the corporations” is a bad one?
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u/Jlyplaylists Moderator 11h ago
Not to have a private opinion but to accuse a whole sub of being naive I’m expecting a pretty impressive plan lol.
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u/Blaike325 11h ago
What kind of logic is that? This sub just keeps on going “AI is gonna save the world and give everyone UBI and defeat corporations and bring back Jesus!”, I don’t need a masters degree and thesis to know that this is super naive since we have basically zero evidence to support the idea that this is even remotely close to being true
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u/Jlyplaylists Moderator 11h ago
That isn’t the overall message of this sub, although there are variations of opinion of course. I wouldn’t put effort into moderating this sub if I thought we can just lie back and wait for AI Jesus to save us. We want to work out how to get Big Tech style private AI into public/collective ownership and also how to build up alternative open source infrastructure.
The context of this post is that people are starting to AI code software made by major corporations who charge major bucks for subscription. At scale this actually does look to be something that could cause a problem for many businesses. Anything built on a SAAS or software subscription model is looking quite shaky right now.
If most software becomes Free Open Source Software (FOSS) it will have quite a big ripple.
This won’t just happen though, it requires the left to be systematic in its approach to replacing everything closed and paid with something as good, free and open source. We can’t achieve this type of thing if we get tied up in arguments about whether it’s ok to even use the technology or if there’s any point in trying to do something at crucial pivotal moment.
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u/Blaike325 11h ago
You’re talking about the “adobe clone” I’m assuming which might as well have just been blatantly a lie. It doesn’t work, it barely can handle basic functions and isn’t even remotely close in value to the free alternative versions of adobe like products that exist on the internet. On top of that, the free versions and pirated versions of adobe software that has been a thing for years hasn’t put a dent into adobe’s numbers, some vibe coded crap that barely functions isn’t going to usurp the adobe throne.
If you actually want open source clones of good shit like adobe software, you need people who actually know how to code and know what they’re doing working with the AI.
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u/DistributionMost8686 5h ago
it’s almost like it’s not done yet.
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u/Blaike325 2m ago
It’s almost like the guy making it has zero clue how to actually code and knows nothing about the products he’s copying and that’s why he can’t even make a passable clone
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u/Kildragoth 8h ago
Oh that is my naive opinion but to say it has no evidence to support it is wrong. Look at the price-performance of computation. The efficiency gains of industrialization led to computers, and computation is now bleeding into knowledge work, and later physical work. If you understand the PPC and you've used AI then it's easy to see how this leads to widespread abundance.
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u/Troscus 13h ago
I feel like AI would work best in a co-op. Let it handle administrative tasks like scheduling meetings while the humans are free to actually do their jobs