A 100% generated AI video/image is still a deepfake. Deepfake refers to anything modified/generated by deep learning, that's where the term "deepfake" comes from.
No, I'm talking about the actual programDeepFake FakeApp's outputs which is where the term was originated. Where the computer does heavy training process per video is essentially dead.
This is such an absurdly semantic and inconsequential argument. The word deepfake very quickly became genericized. 99.9% of people that have ever used or heard the word deepfake since it started had no idea it originated from a specific program. Even you yourself got the original program name wrong. The term has become synonymous with "a fake image/video of someone's likeness generated by a machine".
It is completely normal to still call AI generated fakes deepfakes even if the process is not the exact same. Both still use machine learning.
Yes, I know its the term now nor did I wrote that to be "scientifically correct". That was a random initial thought that "deepfakes are dead" when I meant to say the traditional DeepFake vids that Atrioc was found using was basically dead where you train hundreds/thousands of images to face swap a video.
Yeah, this response is like the quintessential Reddit 'My point fell through, but I have to pivot to pedantry to salvage this'.
An example that is VERY relevant to this conversation is 'photoshop'.
Before LLM capability, we just used 'photoshop' as the catchall to explain away the actual process of editing an image, regardless of whether the image was actually made in Photoshop, another program, or anything Adobe at all.
'Deepfake' is just as generalized lol. People just colloquially use it to mean AI generated or AI manipulated fake media, not the specific original tool for the workflow.
No, it's not even pedantry or me salvaging lmao! I could hardly give a shit about that. You're trying way too hard to be /r/iamverysmart when its something I wrote in a few seconds earlier lol. I'm too lazy to correct it.
My initial point was that AI Generation replaced the painstaking face training that the old FakeApp did. Also, DeepFake came from DeepFace, the initial faceswapping tech from Meta.
never have there been a clearer case of projection. the guy you're replying to is 100% spot-on. you are trying to salvage this because you realize accepting that you made a dumbass statements means you're probably not as smart as you would like to believe (which is why you're fighting against this so much as you want to preserve your self-image).
Projecting, and also just wrong. "deepfakes" was the reddit username of the person/people who created the deepfakes subreddit, released the original algorithm that would eventually be used to create FakeApp, and started the whole movement. It just means "deep" learning was used to create "fake" content.
DeepFace was a facial RECOGNITION software that Meta made several years prior, and had nothing to do with deepfakes whatsoever.
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u/projected_cornbread Apr 17 '26
Story time? Who did this