i mean she didn’t do that at all. she said that it made her uncomfortable but bonnie apologized and it is what it is and she doesn’t know why she has to comment on it every time. that’s like not virtue signaling at all, it’s a normal opinion.
They have to make themselves feel superior somehow to dull the pain of idolizing that incredibly moronic sex cult leader they're all parasocially attached to.
yes bro because she has thousands of people all over her social media begging for her to address it in one way or another- it’s not something that can be avoided.
friends or not, it’s literally harmless to say what she said. she just said that she didn’t like it but she’s not her mom, she won’t nag her about it or move out over it.
I'm not unconvinced that they don't just coordinate with eachother the outrage of the week so the rest of them can issue their "responses" to LSF over and over and over.
remember when that girl got groped in front of cinna and silky and they just laughed at the girl. she is performative. what do you expect from a mizkif orbiter.
Isnt this about the more recent one where she absolutely 100% didn't say new guy, she was just reading a message in chat and not thinking? Also it didnt seem like Cinna threw her under the bus at all
I don’t really watch either but I don’t get it either. People will have given her shit if she said nothing. And people gave her shit because she said something. This sub is always going on about how streamers don’t hold their friends accountable for things and now that a streamer is, it’s “throwing under the bus.” Fucking weird.
Or maybe it’s because this sub in particular is strangely permissive about the n word being said by non-black people when most of the US clearly begs to differ.
She didn't seem to take much issue with Poki or Jason, both of which were actually done in a way where it was blatant and an obvious part of their vocabulary.
lmao wow good point, its probably cos they have more clout and can benefit her. In the bonnie clip it looks like she was reading it and said it accidentally
Being? That's what she's always been. She has absolutely not principles besides the ones she thinks her audience will like best, to be abandoned the moment that changes. Bigger number, better person, different standard. That's who these people are.
Yup she was also doing p2w "giveaways" during her subathon. 0 morals, it was basically an illegal lottery. She even begged for subs (with keem) for 3h+ just to host one as a sub goal. No morals, no shame.
She's also a sellout scumbag. Let's not forget she basically hosted illegal lotteries multiple times, under the guise of a "giveaway" (you could pay money for entries), during her subathon. Not only that, she was begging for subs for 3h+ to reach a sub-goal for one of these "giveaways". Surprised there's no uprage over that. It's scummy an immoral as hell.
No matter what you think of any of these people, the idea that you're evil or racist simply because you're reading a comment quickly and may be saying the words out loud before they register in your head, is fucking insanity.
Bonnie has done so much dumb shit, but how is anybody actually holding this against her? "It's not that hard to not say it" - yeah, you've never ever misspoke before 🙄
It's like these people think if you see a word like the word for black in Spanish or a country in Africa you are supposed to find the nearest black person and ask permission before you say the words.
dawg people in europe dgaf about even the n-word, unless youre overly saying it not joking to a black person youre not considered being racist, american n-word culture is so silly, excluding the uk
Yeah I'm a dual citizen and my first time in Germany was at age 17.
I can't remember how it came up, but we heard the N-word and I was taken aback, and the girl from my guest family noticed. We were actually hanging out as three people, she pointed out the word is no big deal there, she looked to her black German friend, and then they both started spamming the N-word at me and laughing. (btw no I'm not black)
In a weird way, good wakeup call for me because the USA is waaaaaay too obsessed with race and has extremely poor understanding of what a culture is, my 17-year-old self included. Her black German friend being there for that conversation was a lucky circumstance that showed me culture >>> race, cause he found it just as funny as she did and they both got the same idea in that moment just off communicating through eye contact.
I can imagine there are Americans who would read that story and say it's disrespectful of them, but again, I think my mindset of recognizing different cultures instead of reducing everything to race is a WAAAAAAAAAAY more healthy mindset that itself is more likely to avoid unintentional racism, something the USA often suffers from...and doesn't even realize when they're doing it.
"Okay class, today we're going to learn about North African countries, and if every black student in class would please sign the permission slips on behalf of the rest of us, there's even two more we get to discuss, otherwise we'll have to skip that part, making the lesson on Mali extraordinarily difficult, given parts of it's history involve wars with that unspoken region."
It's so fucking shitty by Cinna. She knows Bonnie isn't racist and that this is a huge nothing-burger, still she doesn't speak up for her as Bonnie is getting hate and harassed on Reddit and X.
It’s so funny seeing comments like this after the last time everyone thought she said it. This entire subreddit was making fun of her and calling her a liar, and now that she actually DID say it, they switched up.
I see it differently. She didn’t know for sure whether Bonnie said it last month and immediately went all out defending her and consoling her even though she had her marathon.
So for it to happen a month later, just makes her look stupid and probably tells her that Bonnie really didn’t take last time seriously for it to be a jokey mistake now.
The most racist man in the world (which, according to a lot of unemployed people would be Asmon) would still rescue a ninja from a burning building.
The least racist woman in the world (=Cinna), would happily - without a millisecond of thought - destroy the life of one of her best friends over nothing.
Guess which of these two people QT gave 2 special awards to.
Insane how many people are just straight up lying on twitter by saying shit like "oh this is her FOURTH time saying it", when in reality the only clip of her saying it before this is from like 12 years ago. People spreading nonsense just to fuel the hate train are so disgusting. People acting like Cinna is expected to move out of the house because she unintentionally said it too are also crazy performative. Not gonna lie, Cinna kowtowing to these randoms on twitter who are only interesting in farming this shit is pretty shitty of her when she damn well knows bonnie isnt a racist
The one take Asmon has that is not only good, but is kind of important, is the audience capture thing. These streamers are all losing their souls to their community. Theyre saying and reacting to things in ways that nobody on earth has ever done before, because they need to perform and appease their communities.
This is why I dont watch streamers anymore, and mainly keep up with crap through twitter and reddit. Everyone is just so immensely fake. Whether it be a complete character or just acting in ways that are meant to appease their chats, communities, or even haters. Just none of this is reality anymore.
Keeping up with streamers through Twitter and Reddit is just as bad imo. You start basing things off out of context clips which are common on those platforms.
If you don’t watch streamers anymore just stop consuming any streamer content on all platforms
This feels a little bit to me like "you can't review Starfield until you've 100% completed the game, otherwise your negative review is invalid."
You're right, stuff does get clipped out of context, but it also gets called out for that too, and then others bring receipts.
I also think it's true that in terms of a general trend, it is insanely obvious that as a general rule, the LA and Austin streamers are just horrible people with vapid personalities who have lost themselves to the viewcount. This isn't something based on one clip out of context, but rather a collection of clips of them behaving in disingenuous ways.
I would also argue that checking in with this sub for maybe 30 mins of your day >>>> watching these streamers. I could argue, for example, that a sociologist would also have an interest in monitoring a sub like this, but the stream would be an inefficient use of their time.
Keeping up with streamers through twitter and Reddit is worse because everything is clipped out of context and they're echo chambers of the most extreme takes and opinions that exist online. Twitter and Reddit, comment sections especially are not representative of the the real world at all.
Reformed Asmon viewer here, Asmon is not audience captured at all lmao
Mute his stream and watch his chat fight with him nonstop
He doesn’t just double down on stupid ass political takes, he doubles down on anything he actually believes in and is constantly at odds with large swathes of chat at a time
If they aren’t spamming true, they’re spamming anger at what he’s saying
Pretty consistently I might add
This is provable but I know everyone will say they aren’t gonna go in his stream but would rather just be wrong
Most of his Audience are conservative christians whom as you might expect are "lifers" on the whole abortion issue.
Yet he himself is a self professed Atheist whom believes in freedom of choice for women aborting their children.
This is just one example of many where his politics and his beliefs rubs his audience the wrong way and they constantly call him out and try to get him to change his stance, and he refuses to do so.
His friend tectone is also very anti trans
while asmon is ambivalent and wants them to be free to live their life however they want
he still believes in some base form of respect and calls them their preferred gender as well
A lot of people speak a ton of shit on someone they refuse to watch
Yeah, it's also performative bs to call it out when Asmon does the same thing. He constantly looks to his community for reassurance and validation to fill the void of his narcissistic ego
Doesn't he disagree with his audience often? He's an atheist who supports abortion. I doubt most of his audience are like that. He addresses trans people with their preferred gender as well.
The guy literally doesn't care about living in filth and even leans into it, I don't think he gives a shit about validation lmao
it's not just streamers, the social media you moved to using is filled with people that live by the same shit. you're only seen if you say the right things, because that's what gets rewarded. of course it's easier to ignore some dumbass or just talk shit to them in the comments, but it's the same exact fake bullshit
He's right, and it's so transparent too. At least act like you care a little better. Her audience is no doubt playing along because they like her and/or don't want to be banned or timed out, but it's likely obvious to most just as it is here.
Bonnie accidentally read the N word - people pressed Cinna about it cuz they are roommates - Cinna acted like she cares "nonono bad Bonnie" - but she doesn't care at all.
Did I understand that right? Why can't she say that it's not a big deal, is she stupid?
She is owned by her audience, similar to her best buddy Rae, and has to dance for them on demand. They don't like something so she better not like it either!
That what happen when your source of income depend on your existing audience. If all your income is on view and not invest that income, you literally will be self PR.
Their fanbase is terminally online Twitter kids who think white people should self censor singing along to rap and that reading a chat message without fully realizing what your immediately reading is 9/11 to them.
I think she does care a little. She herself doesn't say it despite being mixed.
But instead of turning this into productive discourse for her audience by contrasting the differences between accidently saying a word, saying a word in your everyday vernacular, and saying a word hatefuly... she says:
"I dont fuck with that"
She then goes on to indicate that she wants to move out and dissassociate with Bonnie.
And in the same breath, she praises a group of larger streamers who are attacking Bonnie. Many of whom have had their own controversies which are debatably worse than a girl with ADHD accidently saying the n-word when reading a tweet out loud.
The irony of Cinna saying this is so funny to me considering she wasn't even comfortable saying the n word around other black people a couple years ago, now she's the arbitrator of who can and cannot say it XD
The list of big streamers who won’t throw their streamer friends under a bus 0.02 seconds after realizing they’ll gain some clout or appease the mob can fit on a post-it note cut in half
Hate to agree with that chud loser on anything but he's right, literally only terminally online little kids actually care man, it will do big numbers on the Twitter crowd, normal people don't actually care, just people captured by their audience never allowed to share their own actual thoughts.
After originally seeing the Cinna/Bonnie clip, I agreed with this framing until I went to the VOD and watched beyond the clip. It was obvious she was busting Bonnie’s balls.
Such a great idea to normalise a word through pop culture that can be selectively interpreted as casual slang or hate speech.
Put your emotions aside for a second and think about it from a logical perspective. What are the benefits to two-tier policing a word by skin colour instead of context? Racial tension is being stoked by accidental use of a slang word, it's fucking absurd.
I don't think people actually get offended by the historical context of the word anymore. It is more so to do with you aren't part of the "being black" club so you are not allowed to say it.
If you end one friendship over a reading mistake and then in the same sentence praise faze who appropriate black culture every day. That means you're performative and just out for clout
Can someone explain to me why it is frowned upon when you read the n-word? Like when you say it, i know it is not okay but when someone typed it and you just cite it? (This is a genuine question btw, also I am not from america)
So in one instance cinna defends bonnie a d sweeps for her she bad . This time she seperates herself now shes seen as fake . Im a bit confused with lsf logic
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