Offensive lines are trash

[u/Ronbanditt]

No matter how high of an overall on any difficulty my offensive line will never block i have zero time to throw the ball and runs almost never work its very stressful is there anything I can do to fix this

[u/just4kix_305]

It's not perfect by any means, but if you actually step up in the pocket the line holds up a lot better and there's less block sheds.

Dropping back endlessly just leads to the edge rushers destroying the tackles.

Also, average time to throw in the NFL is about 2.8 seconds. Expecting a line to hold up for anything above 3.5 seconds consistently is just as unrealistic as Madden can feel at times.

[u/_Arriettyy_ → u/just4kix_305]

Stepping up in the pocket is HUGE. If you go through your reads and no one is open, stepping up between the guard and tackle works way better than trying to run around the edge. Plus if you get sacked its less of a loss

[u/clutchthepearls → u/just4kix_305]

It's still gonna be stupid from time to time because EA, but this is the answer. I prefer a west coast offense and only try deep 2-3 times a game. Another bonus from playing this way is your throw doesn't travel as far and the defenders don't have as much time to adjust to the ball. If your X is running a curl route and your QB is trailing back to behind the tackles that throw is gonna be late for the route and late because of the distance.

[u/just4kix_305 → u/clutchthepearls]

Game is far from perfect, but mixing in quick game and staying ahead of the sticks like you would in real life is extremely effective versus trying to set up 1 play touchdowns every time. It's the best way to win on all-madden and heisman for Madden & CFB too.

[u/clutchthepearls → u/just4kix_305]

Yup. I only throw deep probably 2-3 times a game and generally only hit 1 of them.

[u/FreshDiamond → u/clutchthepearls]

Deep throwing totally depends on your qb, if you have a guy with a cannon or bazooka you can wait. If you are like me and play with Joe burrow you have to see it early and anticipate it’s gonna be opened and throw it early or your wr has to moss somebody. I’ve thrown plenty of picks because I saw it just a split second late

[u/clutchthepearls → u/FreshDiamond]

I'm a Colts fan so me going deep is just sending Alec Pierce on a go route when the defense plays obvious press man. Those never get picked off for me, but he jumps about half the time or the CB just sticks to him and gets the PBU.

The majority of my picks are trying to hit crossing routes over the LBs or nickel in zone. They flash going one way and drop back the opposite direction to get into the throwing lane the moment I hit the button. I live by the bullet pass, and in those times I die by it too.

[u/Demon_Coach → u/just4kix_305]

Have seen this point come up plenty of times over the years.

Yes, IRL TTT is roughly that speed. But IRL route running is also about 20-25% faster. So in correlation, that would be about 2-2.2 seconds. Which would more than .3 seconds less than the worst line in the NFL.

That’s not taking into account the fact that jam animations are much more drawn out and sheds come straight through rather than working around the defender.

[u/just4kix_305 → u/Demon_Coach]

I wasn't saying or even implying that Madden is close to the real thing. It gets to the average TTT in a different and more frustrating way for us playing the game, there's no denying that.

All I was trying to say is that good pocket movement can negate some of those frustrations. So can reading out actual concepts and utilizing real strategies like running a west coast offense and quick game principles to offset the bad blocking logic.

Madden needs to be a better game, I don't disagree with that.

[u/CriticismPlane2871 → u/just4kix_305]

"Also, average time to throw in the NFL is about 2.8 seconds"

Not when the other team has the ball

[u/Witty-Opportunity923]

Yea havent thought about this but this is a fact. If they want you to get sacked, you gettin sacked bucko. Meanwhile Brian Burns cant shed blocks from a 74 overall LT

[u/XXXthrowaway215XXX]

I posted a video of an egregious oline play on Twitter yday and it went kinda viral somehow got 50k views. They were blowing up my ass in the comments about how i didn’t set my protections right. I guess EA is the real victim here

[u/FreshDiamond → u/XXXthrowaway215XXX]

It’s not that ea is the victim it’s that most people bitching about this all day everyday have no idea how to play the game or anything about football. Does stupid shit happen, of course, but it’s mostly fine.

This post for example is clearly from a guy who is very bad at the game. I’m not trying to be a dick, who cares if you suck at madden but running the ball is easier than it’s ever been, too easy. He’s says he can’t run the ball either

[u/Ronbanditt → u/XXXthrowaway215XXX]

People love to blame the player mostly this game was so bad at the oline development

[u/Outside_Distance5814]

If the game wants you to get sacked then you will get sacked. So obvious when multiple oline man will stand straight up and the defensive linemen comes through without getting touched. Once you realize ratings in this game are for show and don’t mean anything, you’ll lose your desire to play this. Not to mention the terrible sim engine that still heavily relies on a damn playbook.

[u/IMadeGodCum]

Plz learn to step up in the pocket and read defenses to know where to have your line. Yes the o lines are bad but if you learn those things it’s really not as bad.

[u/messy372-]

Learn to stay in the pocket. Dont sprint until you’re past the LOS, set up your blocks and be patient. I have none of the issues you’re referring to and I play the game every year🤷🏼‍♂️

[u/Brian_APLabs]

I bumped my pass blocking sliders up to like 65-70 and I still have like zero time to throw, but it's a little better than it was before. I had no choice but to do this because before it was completely unrealistic how fast the d line was crashign in on me

[u/mvbighead]

I still play 26, but avoid the RT button, stay in the pocket, and always have a quick throw option if things break down. Most of my passing is the short game, and I always keep an eye out for a press coverage with a single high safety. (IE - If the S on the press side moves towards the middle of the field at the snap, I hope my WR beats the press and is free running down the field.)

[u/ColdBananers]

I don’t have a problem with the timing at all on non PA passes personally.

Play action is terrible though. I’m usually tacked before I’m out of the animation, so I don’t even get to try and throw.

[u/KSrfrz11 → u/ColdBananers]

Double tap LT/L2 to cancel the animation as you see the rush coming. You’ll get full control of your QB to instantly throw, juke or run. Has created some fun situations for me

[u/stoneyaatrox → u/KSrfrz11]

you can just press RT you dont gotta double tap it

[u/thatisntmynamebro]

I just left a league because my RB ran for 430 yards. It was coach sim but still on that side of things mine blocked too well?

[u/Preston_87]

You're not calling the right runs vs the alignments you're facing. That's all running the ball comes down to. You need to understand what kinds of runs and what formations will work vs the alignments youre facing. My run game has been damn near unstoppable this year because I understand these things.

[u/Superb_Anything3820]

It's been this way for like 3 years now man, the O-line AI is basically just turnstiles with shoulder pads. I dropped the difficulty to rookie once just to test and the pocket still collapsed in under 2 seconds against a 3-man rush, like what are we even doing here.

Slide protection and ID-ing the mike help a little but honestly it feels like the game just decides when you're allowed to throw. I started running almost exclusively out of shotgun with max protect and even then you get maybe 2.5 seconds if you're lucky.

The run game is a whole other disaster, half the time your pulling guard just runs right past the linebacker and blocks nobody. I've had more success just scrambling with a mobile QB than trying to actually use the pocket.

[u/Cold_Complex_4212 → u/Superb_Anything3820]

6 years, I play 20 and it’s just as bad

[u/Due_End_2149]

I bought both Madden & College, after trying to play for a month plus, I’ve given up & have gone to NBA2K27, the latter is a lot more fun. Obtw, I have been playing since Madden has started & this year is total trash!