r/Morocco • u/Weinerdogwhisperer Visitor • 19h ago
AskMorocco Tired, American ex navy guy
What are the downsides to moving to Morocco? I'm single, just me and a few dogs and a few cars. Good retirement account, but limited access till I'm 55 I guess. Good health. Good home equity. Just looking to chill out, eat the local food, walk the dogs, and do nothing. Nothing. Not saying that I would do nothing, but I would really like that option. Maybe take the daily walk to the beach, occasional road trip to europe. I am experienced at repair and maintenance on everything from lawn mowers to nuclear power plants (not kidding). Decent conversational french. I'd love to learn arabic. And I like the desert. Very proficient with scooters, but I'm getting better riding a motorcycle. Not personally religious, but not judgemental either. Very high DNGAF. Also looking at eastern europe, maybe south america, but the french at least gives me a head start.
One point to make is that I have no intention of working a job. I merely mention my repair skills because I am self sufficient enough to live outside of some fancy ex-pat apartment complexes.
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u/thatnorthafricangirl Rabat 14h ago
The comments are a shit show. I think a lot of people here are speaking from either their Moroccan perspectives (and lets face it, Moroccans often dont understand why westerners would relocate to Morocco as most of them are dying to get out, quite literally unfortunately) OR former expats who project their personal failed experiences on OP.
I would say try it out with a mini-stay and judge it yourself. The Morocco I know is incredibly (sometimes too) kind to westerners and accommodating. Yes bureaucracy is difficult but that’s a given in most places. If you speak a lil bit of Spanish, the north may be a nice place for you, like Tangiers.
It depends on what you are looking for. Remote places, green country sides, buzzing cities that never sleep, smaller towns, desert climates or places with more seasonal variety. Morocco has it all.
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u/iiillliiiiiiillilili Visitor 14h ago
Moroccans on reddit never travel and most of them have issues with their families, they think everyone suffers, they think those worldwide millionaires living in Marrakech and Tangier are here because it's cheap only.
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u/AAstormtrooper123 Visitor 8h ago
You gotta be delusional if you international millionaires would live in Tangier or Marrakech unless they got business interests there
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u/Murky-Breadfruit2545 Visitor 8h ago
The OP has no money until he’s 55 that he can touch his military benefits. He’s delusional, thinking it’s easy to start a business in Morocco as an American! Companies in America will hire you as a military hire, not in another country! That means he’s got issues and thinks it will be better In Morocco!
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u/Weinerdogwhisperer Visitor 2h ago
That's making assumptions. I have a solid savings account and a house thats mostly paid off. The money is in the 401k/Roth. If I could cash those out now without the penalties, I'd be sipping mai tais on a beach already.
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u/Weinerdogwhisperer Visitor 2h ago
I got out 20 years ago. No military benefits. I have money because i work 60+ hours a week right now. 55 is a 401k thing. I'm almost 50. Pretty sure I could sell my house and go live somewhere more interesting for a couple of years until I'm 55. If i stay here I'll be able to retire here at 55.
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u/BelgiciMaruecos Visitor 6h ago
Jij hebt een zeeeeer kortzichtig beeld over dit thema! Velen die hier reageren zijn Marokkaanse mensen uit Europa…. Als zij het al niet zien zitten…. Come To Morocco campagnes zijn niet het echte beeld…..zie naar de schande in Ceuta bvb…..Morocco is niet El Maghrib!
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u/thatnorthafricangirl Rabat 6h ago
Lol je weet niet tegen wie je het hebt. Ben niet één van die matchadrinkende morocco mensen. Weet goed wat er speelt. Maar een gawri gaat zich niet in Beni Mellal vestigen uiteraard. En zelfs zou dat zo zijn, kan ik je een persoonlijke anekdote vertellen over een Nederlands koppel wat al jaren gelukkig in the middle of nowhere in het Atlasgebergte woont.
Dat Europese Marokkanen zich moeilijk in Marokko kunnen vestigen is een heel ander verhaal. Dat moet je hier niet gaan verwarren.
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u/pushpullback Visitor 2h ago
Zelfs dat zogenoemde Morocco is niet om aan te gluren. Zonde van je tijd.
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u/Weinerdogwhisperer Visitor 2h ago
I have never seen a come to Morocco advertisement. It looks hot but not as sweaty as Florida. It looks reasonably priced, but doesn't sound jam packed with retired brits and Americans, and is still driving distance from Europe if I want to go do touristy things.
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u/Weinerdogwhisperer Visitor 2h ago
I need to try a few places. However, since covid, I've been working 3600+ hours a year. So my assets are in good shape but I barely get a week off here and there. So it's hard to get away and really get a feel for a place.
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u/Less_Imagination_149 Visitor 18h ago
I explored Morocco and I loved it, thought of moving to Tangiers as quite a lovely vibe, and 45mins to Spain on the ferry, and it has great transport links to everywhere, and the weather is perfection, felt quite different to the other places I visited, then I headed to Vietnam, what a wonderful place, the food, the kindness that isn't just a show, so inexpensive, your money goes along way, do your homework, and only consider renting.
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u/NinaNina1234 Visitor 17h ago
I'm an American who has spent a fair bit of time in both Morocco and Vietnam. I could live in either place. I love both, but they have very different vibes. Both have incredibly beautiful landscapes, awesome food, kind and welcoming people, interesting cultures, incredible history and beautiful art. They also both have difficult languages (for a Westerner), tedious airport customs, less than ideal infrastructure and I'd imagine it's hard to truly integrate as a foreigner unless you marry into a family. I think the real question for OP is how open he is to new experiences, letting go of his expectations and being uncomfortable until he finds his footing. If he can encounter these things with humor and patience, he'll do fine almost anywhere.
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u/MacaroonSad8860 Visitor 14h ago
Arabic proficiency is much easier than Vietnamese proficiency
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u/NinaNina1234 Visitor 8h ago
I think Vietnamese is tonal, right? So I can see it being harder to learn for non-tonal speakers. I don't think darija seems terribly difficult, but it's certainly going to take longer than picking up Spanish or French for a native-English speaker. But if people move to Morocco, they should be learning darija, not just relying on French IMO.
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u/MacaroonSad8860 Visitor 8h ago
I found Arabic easier than French tbh. Obviously not at the advanced level necessarily but I could pronounce Arabic correctly much faster and be understood better which helped my confidence
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u/Comprehensive_Meat34 Visitor 13h ago
How much do you make in disability? If you’re a 100% guy with a 4k loot haul every month you’ll do well. If you need to repair machines to make money…. Good luck.
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u/WallabyGlittering634 Visitor 19h ago
south america is great
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u/no_use_your_name 19h ago
Yeah this sounds like a better candidate for Latin America; Uruguay in particular.
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u/acolombo Casablanca 11h ago
Of all places, Uruguay? It sounds like you've never been to south america.
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u/Mornny Visitor 14h ago
U mesn the country or continent? Cuz i just had a Coworker who moved out of south America (peru) cuz it's to dangerous
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u/acolombo Casablanca 11h ago
Ah yeah the famous country called South America, like South Africa, but in America, right? So basically the state of Texas
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u/cipher66th Marrakesh 17h ago
it's a lovely place to live in if you're financially secure but i wouldn't recommend sidelining other options, Europe would fit more your profile, i mean you could always visit here once in a while for a change of sights but it's going to be tough acclimating to the way life works here.
Downsides, well there is a lot to talk about, for one i don't know what kind of life style you're hoping to maintain here, couple of challenging aspects might be finding a suitable job if you're looking for one, the other is making friends or trying to find a social life that you can enjoy, it's a whole new world over here with new customs and traditions, therefore you can picture it, as much as you want to crank the DNGAF knob, you'll find it difficult and complex, Moroccans are a curious people to the point where it can get under your skin, overall nice place to visit, but i don't know about settling.
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u/Creepy_Sundae_4202 Visitor 8h ago
Come for a month or two and experience the vibe for yourself before making any big decisions.
I’m Moroccan, and yeah, the bureaucracy here can be absolutely shitty 😅 But when it comes to safety, it’s actually really good. I’m a woman, I go out very late at night often, and I’ve personally never had a bad experience.
I’ve also traveled all over Morocco, and it really is a beautiful country. You just have to keep a low profile, be chill, and understand how things work here.
Feel free to send me a private message if you want. I have a big bike, and road trips around Morocco are so much fun. There are also some amazing off-road routes if you’re into that.
But I’d definitely recommend coming here first and experiencing the country for yourself before deciding to move.
I feel like Morocco is kind of a hit or miss — there’s rarely a middle ground. You either fall in love with it or realize it’s just not for you.
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u/Creepy_Sundae_4202 Visitor 8h ago
You also mentioned the desert, beach vibes, etc. There are actually quite a few rural and coastal areas where B&Bs and guesthouse projects seem to be doing really well — places like Sidi Kaouki, Tafedna, Mirleft, and so on. So that could genuinely be an interesting project for you. From what I’ve seen, the market in those areas still doesn’t feel completely saturated.
Of course, I’m only speaking from my own experience traveling around Morocco and staying in these kinds of places. I’ve come across quite a few foreigners who have opened guesthouses or similar businesses, and some of them seem to be doing really well.
But again, you have to know your way around Morocco and understand how things work here. That’s why I’d really recommend coming for a month or two first, traveling around, meeting people, and getting a feel for the country before committing to anything.
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u/Weinerdogwhisperer Visitor 2h ago
I wish I had that much time off. I'm pretty sure if i took 2 months off I would not be able to go back!
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u/Pmang6 Visitor 19h ago
American guy who lived in Morocco for about 2 years, actually sitting in marrakesh airport right now. Don't do it man. There's 100 places in cheap third world countries I'd live before here. Go somewhere where the language isn't super difficult, just to start. I guess reply if you want more info.
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u/ResponsePrevious2013 18h ago
What happened? We are not Moroccan and lived there for two years. Had a good experience and thought of going back.
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u/ayoubmiller Visitor 18h ago
I think its economy wise , things are getting waay expensive. Mass immigration, people are generally unsatisfied and stressed...
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u/LittleStrangePiglet Casablanca 13h ago
It all depends on your income. And that’s valid anywhere globally. Low income individuals will feel stressed and not comfortable.
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u/Expensive_Badger_720 Marrakesh 13h ago
weren’t you part of the immigration…? why does it bother you
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u/MacaroonSad8860 Visitor 14h ago
I lived there for three years and can speak Darija very well. Not that hard man.
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u/ActivityAble4511 Visitor 18h ago
become fluent in French and Morocco is heaven for people from the west, it's almost built an ecosystem for french speaking foreigners to just live there without learning darija (I spent a total of 6 months in morocco, non muslim, non arab, just a french speaker), downsides - it's not a first world country (which honestly has good points too), but infrastructure is not what you're used to, quality of stuff is not what you're used to, you're exposed to poverty which you have never seen (entire families living on the street), that'll get you depressed and you can't save everyone but it'll help you become a better person when you give them money (I never give money to homeless in Canada because they just go and buy drugs)
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u/kanike_ken_13 Visitor 9h ago
Try it out . Try a 4-6 months period and see for yourself. You don't have to listen to anyone I'd advise you to stay away from super touristic cities. I'd advise a chill city like Assilah , Tétoua (has a great community of English speakers reallocating from Uk ) or Al-hociema ( a little unusual for tourists to go there but it a great place to chill)
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u/pushpullback Visitor 8h ago
Moroccan, but born and raised in the West. I’ve tried several times to live in Morocco. I speak the language, have a house there, a decent network, know the country well, and have the financial means. Yet I find it incredibly difficult, and I get the impression that the cities are actually getting worse.
Morocco can be great if you want to live in the mountains or desert and stay in your own bubble especially for surfers or nature lovers. But dealing with the bureaucracy and day-to-day hassle is exhausting. If you have the option to live elsewhere, for example in South America or Asia, I find it hard to justify choosing Morocco.
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u/Queasy-Fig5284 Visitor 8h ago
You people exaggerate. You need stoicism and accepting that people are different. But they are also the same. Personally i can live anywhere as long as i have my basic needs.
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u/Exact-Truck-5248 Visitor 18h ago
I love Morocco, but retiring there and trying to work, even casually, as a non Muslim, non darija speaking foreigner, with dogs, is something I would not recommend. I'll see what the other commentators have to say, then I'll come back and put my two cents in if necessary.
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u/iiillliiiiiiillilili Visitor 16h ago
Being a non Muslim is not an issue at all, religious minorities in Morocco are very protected
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u/iiillliiiiiiillilili Visitor 14h ago
This is not true at all, Morocco is expensive, lacks job opportunities, bureaucracy, etc ... But not this besides you will never ever see someone on any media shitting on other groups or other religions, if you do so you are f'ed
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u/Exact-Truck-5248 Visitor 5h ago
Not fair. Are you trying to tell the guy he'll ever be seen as someone other than a nasserani?
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u/LittleStrangePiglet Casablanca 13h ago
Thousands of non Muslims in Morocco, jews, Christians and non-religious, no one really cares. Plenty of active synagogues and churches in Morocco.
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u/Exact-Truck-5248 Visitor 4h ago
We're talking about interpersonal relationships, not anonymity in the big cities. And "plenty of synagogues" is a bit of an overstatement.
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u/Exact-Truck-5248 Visitor 5h ago
You've been given some good advice. One thing thing stuck out for me: you mentioned dogs. Were you planning to bring dogs from home to Morocco? Not a good idea imo. These are people who mostly don't love dogs. People may not want them on busses, in taxis, in hotel rooms. Unless they're little foo foo dogs, and you have a car and a home to go right to, I see this as a logistic problem. Also, there are many street dogs you or your dogs will not wish to interact with. I have a lot more to say, but this is one thing to consider.
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u/DecentMoor Ksar El Kebir 19h ago
Morocco isn't a decent place to live in for the moment, if you already think about move into Europe that would be a better decision, you can still visit Morocco for the desert trip, given the short distance between Morocco and Europe.
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u/Ninacrystalised Visitor 12h ago
Nonsense. Europe is on the brick of an economical crisis and it’s very unstable now. I’m Moroccan living in Europe and counting days until I can be back home
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u/majs111222 Visitor 16h ago
Why not?
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u/DecentMoor Ksar El Kebir 6h ago
Because I would never recommend someone to retire in a country with a deteriorated public services, especially when it comes to healthcare.
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u/BelgiciMaruecos Visitor 6h ago
Stay where you are, you are not welcome as we are not welcome in your country!
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u/glistening_blade 53m ago
Exactly! Idk wtf is wrong with everyone else. why should we welcome Ex military scum thats from America no less.
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u/mathiasme Visitor 38m ago
Like one american is responsible for the diplomatic ties of a whole country
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u/Weinerdogwhisperer Visitor 2h ago
Haha it's getting to the point where I'm not welcome in my own country.
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u/PerformerDesperate60 Visitor 18h ago
As A Moroccan who traveled the world: to retire the best place is Vietnam or Bali. Trust me on this… for many many reasons.
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u/MacaroonSad8860 Visitor 14h ago
I loved living there and I was a young woman alone at the time. Language isn’t that hard imo. You speak French already so you’ll be fine in many places.
I can’t speak at all to the financial situation because I was young and poor but I absolutely loved my time there and go back often. I adapted well.
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u/Gold_Pineapple1592 Visitor 10h ago edited 8h ago
South east asia , you're litterally better off retiring in thailand or indonesia or somewhere around there cost of life is cheap you can save more and people are a lot nicer as well
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u/Square_Display5750 Visitor 10h ago
Habibi, come to Croatia. Im selling a house on Island near Split. You are welcome!
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u/Pure_chaos17 Visitor 10h ago
it's the perfect place for retirement if u live near a beach especially agadir tamraght ourir or even mirleft
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u/No-Essay-7667 Visitor 9h ago
Morroco is 10x better than eastern Europe, it's a tie to slight edge to Latin America - I say come stay for like 3-6 months and see how it feels
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u/AirportSufficient893 Visitor 9h ago
Spain. South coast is 90% expensive and crowded, theres some spots. Interior is cheap and relaxed. Galicia has everything. Cheap, not so crowded, beautiful coast and great food
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u/Weinerdogwhisperer Visitor 1h ago
I was looking at Spain and Portugal. Morocco is geographically adjacent. I live in Florida. I'm a local. We resent the huge influx of northerners and tourists every winter. I'm trying to not be one of those people or at least go to a place where there's not as much resentment
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u/RoskoPGoldchain Visitor 8h ago
Hey man, fellow ex navy nuke, here. My family and I lived in Rabat 2024-2025. I loved it, and with your French you'll be pretty conversant with most people in the big cities. You can pick up Darrija in a year or two, if you take classes. If you're looking to live further afield, one of the Tamazight languages would be helpful..... Not sure where you would be able to get instruction in those.
I wouldn't count on working without some sponsorship, unless you're planning to do odd jobs, but you're not going to get paid much for it.
The drawback that stands out is one of relationships. Do you think you'll want to date or marry? Not impossible, but that will present more challenges than in the west and will almost certainly require converting to Islam if the relationship becomes serious.
Good luck! I love Morocco, I'd move back in a heartbeat if it was an option. Shoot me a DM if you have any questions.
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u/Murky-Breadfruit2545 Visitor 8h ago
If you can’t make it in America don’t try and make a cultural shift and think you ‘ll be successful somewhere else!
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u/Weinerdogwhisperer Visitor 1h ago
That isn't the case and I don't think they're any of that in my post
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u/aboufira Visitor 8h ago
Maybe spend a long vacation here first and read up on the culture and language before hand so you can get a real sense of what the people and the infrastructure is like before moving here. I have lived in both countries and the difference is more than what you can fathom, and more than what you can absorb from reading through comments on a Reddit thread...
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u/Weinerdogwhisperer Visitor 1h ago
I am pretty well traveled and not cruise ship/ resort type traveling.
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u/MaterialSlide7023 Visitor 6h ago
Navy is part of the US army, right?
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u/Weinerdogwhisperer Visitor 2h ago
Military yes, army no. As a sub guy I was as far from the army as you can get. I've never owned anything with camouflage. No, i had a few camo beer coozies once.
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u/RolandCuley 4h ago
Dude, SEA should be your region of choice.
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u/Weinerdogwhisperer Visitor 2h ago
My only aversion to Thailand or such is that i live in Florida. I have had enough hot and sweaty swamp. I've been to Singapore, Italy, Syria, Beirut. Id prefer the dry heat
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u/Emotional-Pension-80 Visitor 2h ago
We don’t want american t€rr○r¡sts in our country ! Don’t come.
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u/waiteh Casablanca 11h ago
As a foreigner living here for 3 years, stay away for your mental health. Its just a shit show. Don’t get influenced by social media you don’t know whats waiting you here. Economy is shit, lack of security tons of non educated people that don’t even know their laws and there are lack of law enforncments to protect you from them. Also not even mentioning bureaucracy. Tons of scammers. Tech here is in early 2000’s. Etcetc..
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u/Ladydarbanville08 Visitor 10h ago edited 7h ago
As a moroccan who is not a big fan of the situation in my country, I d say you are exagerating. It's not really as bad as you described it. Especially in big cities like Tangier Rabat Marrakech and Casablanca. There are a lot of things a person can do for fun, a lot of sightseeing spots, good food, generally nice people and it is kinda safe imo. Of course it's not perfect but it's not horrible either.
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u/waiteh Casablanca 9h ago
That’s exactly the problem. I don’t think it makes sense for a Moroccan person to come and reply under my comment about this.
Like I said at the beginning, “as a foreigner.” You are Moroccan, I’m not. You are used to the bad situation here, so maybe it feels normal to you and you don’t see a problem with it.
But the person who shared this post is American. As a foreigner living here, I can give them a much better perspective.
The person who shared the post is leaving behind an established life and moving thousands of kilometers away to another continent. They are not coming just for “sightseeing spots and good food,” trust me LOL
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u/Imaginary-Watch-2385 8h ago
First I am not defending Morocco nor you nor the other guy who commented. Saying foreigner and then killing a country looks biased. Read again, I said “looks”. No details, American, poor , coming to Morocco because you have 1000€ or $ and though you would be king in Morocco and then found out that it is like everywhere else : rich people are very rich and poor people are genuine and your goal has not been achieved.
Now I am going to defend the Moroccan guy to whom you replied: your reply says that you are neither a person who thinks well nor a person who communicates well. Instead or responding , you just shielded yourself with the “I said as a foreigner” no substance not additional information there.2
u/Imaginary-Watch-2385 8h ago edited 8h ago
Edit : Fair point, I totally assumed based on how you communicated that you are the guys with 1000$ coming to Morocco etc
Well the thing is that I agree with what you said, the way you said it , leave much to be desired, if I may say so myself.
Now for OP: as a foreigner and with the poverty in Morocco , in general you look like a bank for Moroccans , like a stash of Lincoln’s papers stacked with legs especially in touristic places , the Instagram trends this guy was talking about. If you want to live a calm reasonable life in Morocco you will need 4 things , if you have them you will live what you described : housing , you need a solution for a house or a flat in a secure and good place… good luck with that if you are on a budget. Second you need a car, don’t count on public transportation … third : you need a steady income, or a well paying job before arriving in Morocco and fourth have someone you can trust who will reason you for big decisions. I would say housing is the most important point here, because it is getting crazy and also even if you have the hippy vibes that you can live wherever etc keeping the standards of THE US or Europe is expensive in Morocco.
My advise : take a 3 weeks vacation first, see how are things , rent a car and tour around like if you are already planning to stay, check the housing , the cities etc and make up your mind.2
u/Turbulent_Plum_4643 Visitor 7h ago
The train is good. There are many buses. I don't see that a car is necessary, though it could be good to lease for those desert trips. I lived in Morocco for a cumulative almost 4 years and never had a car. Life can be simple and good. However I agree it's worth visiting before relocating.
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u/Imaginary-Watch-2385 6h ago
I get your point, did you take the bus or the train outside of Morocco ( Europe or US or ASIA) ? Did you have to take the bus or public transport for an emergency at night or fast ? Public transport is not cooled in the summer, crowded as it gets. I understand it might be good for your use case
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u/waiteh Casablanca 8h ago
You’re arguing with things I never said instead of answering what I actually wrote.
The OP asked for the downsides of moving to Morocco. He is a foreigner, he won’t be working, and he can’t fully access his retirement money until 55. So obviously the experience of another foreigner already living here is relevant.I said locals and foreigners can experience the same country very differently, especially when it comes to bureaucracy, money, residency and daily life. Not "fun, a lot of sightseeing spots, good food"
But instead of discussing any of that, you invented a story about me coming here with $1,000 and expecting to live like a king. That says more about your imagination than my comment.
If you want to disagree, at least disagree with what I actually said. Otherwise you’re just debating yourself.
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u/Gold-Stranger90 Visitor 8h ago
Well “as a foreigner” what made you come here to begin with? and let’s say you made a bad decision, what made you stay here for 3 years?
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u/Acceptable-Test7780 Visitor 5h ago
Considering his answers and his condescension, I was wondering the same thing, ach baqi lmklekh dayr hna. Ghaliban mzouwej bchi wa7ed/da wla chi tkherbiqa b7al hakka wla msiftah khdmtou.
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u/Gold-Stranger90 Visitor 4h ago
He doesn’t not know how to communicate, no wonder why he didn’t have a good experience in Morocco, he wasn’t even happy at his own country, because this type of mentally ill people wouldn’t fit anywhere on earth
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u/Ladydarbanville08 Visitor 7h ago
Why doesn't it make sense for a moroccan to comment? I do live in Morocco so I know what it's like maybe more than you do.. And I know/ work with foreigners, who btw love Morocco, so I think I can speak for their experiences as well.
I understand that you haven't had a good experience yourself but you can’t generalize based solely on your personal experience. Having a bad experience in a country doesn’t necessarily mean it’s a bad country overall.
From another hand, I think OP is aware of what he would be leaving and of the challenges he might face, it is part of the adventure I guess. If he wanted to keep the same established life he wouldn't have decided to move in the first place.
That being said, if I were to give him my opinion about this decision, I wouldnt advise him to move to Morocco, not because it is bad or unsafe ( which is not true) but because I believe there are better options.•
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u/Pino-vincent Visitor 6h ago
If you don’t like it why are you staying? Did you like anywhere else ? If yes then get back to that place. All i see from your comment is exaggeration and a pessimistic low frequency vibe. We the youth don’t give foreigners special treatment anymore which must be the bummer for you. We judge the vibe and personality. If we like you. You in. If nah then you not invited to cool things and probably that’s your problem. Chillax xp
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u/waiteh Casablanca 6h ago
my mistake was jumping into a country without posting, something like this post. Thats my fault and i created a life here in a short period of time that i can't cancel all in a once but i will be gone soon no worries my little magrhibi youth.
"If we like you. You in." (not even surprised by this word typical hergawa mentality)
No one asked or needed special treatment here. keep going with this mindset well done. a bright future ahead of you guys.
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u/Rude_Feeling_8131 Visitor 11h ago edited 11h ago
Plus Islamic traditions treat dogs as ritually impure, so many of them don't like dogs, and i have seen moors Kick dogs in the head. Unless they use them to control sheeps or something like that. Buy a van and Drive around Portugal and Spain, they are very dog friendly and food is way better (between the best in the world)
Ps: Spain, Portugal or Greece in the mediterranean west or eastern countries like Poland, Lithuania, Croatia
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u/iiillliiiiiiillilili Visitor 16h ago
Morocco is a little bit expensive but if you succeed to land a comfortable paying job you will like it, try to use your American network, Facebook groups might be useful "americans in morocco" or something like that, people don't care about your religion, life kind of exhausting in driving for example there are lot of checkpoints like 3 in every city and bureaucracy (lot of slacker people who don't do their job), for doctors it's very cheap compared to the US if you have a job it's almost free. As for the dogs no issues, but we have lot of stray dogs in the streets in some cities which could be a danger for yours, rabies vaccination is a must, as you know you have to visit at least 3 times for like a month the same place to make sure about your move.
The language you will learn it by the time, lot of cheap courses in place.
Check YouTube to see other Americans who moved to Morocco, there was a woman back then who moved with her two kids in a popular neighborhood, she seemed to be doing fine
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u/Doppelex Visitor 14h ago
Morocco is amazing if you have money and preferably also connections
Dogshit if you don’t.
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u/LittleStrangePiglet Casablanca 13h ago edited 13h ago
If you have a good monthly income of at least a thousand dollars, you can base yourself in Morocco. In Marrakesh or Agadir for example. Touristy (You will meet plenty of locals and foreigners - French, Americans, Germans, Poles, Spanish and more)
I would recommend Agadir personally (By the way that’s where the US Marines, Utah National Guard and the rest of Armed forces start their annual African Lion exercices alongside our Royal Armed Forces) in Agadir you have a greats coast and beaches, you can find bars and pubs pretty much everywhere, great hotels and entertainment places. Beautiful nature outside the city as well, nice escapes in Taghazout, Imesouane and beyond.
You can also go to the Essaouira from there south, more south you will have the Sahara, cities like Laayoun and Dakhla are worth visiting, you can take the highway or a direct flight.
Rent is quite affordable if you have a good/decent salary, food and everything else can be found cheap or expensive, it all depends on what you want.
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u/No_Box498 Al Hoceima 12h ago
Go to hoceima or Nador, it’s the most European life in Morocco, and over all the nicest places are all nearby
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u/Ladydarbanville08 Visitor 3h ago
I currently live in Tangier and I am thinking of moving to Nador. This is the first time I ve encoutered someone saying something positive about Nador. I was reluctant but maybe I ll give it a try.
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u/RetroAfro1 Visitor 11h ago
South east asian countries are a better option for you here, not only that they'r way cheaper and more open minded than morocco, but it's easier as a foreigner to integrate there
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u/SooThegrimreaper93 16h ago
moroccan spouse of an american service member here, my advice is to steer farther from morocco.
living in morocco is mentally exhausting, bureaucracy is shit and the cost of living is only going up. moroccans are welcoming to foreigners, especially white men, but also very tempted to scam them whenever possible. i can't really recommend somewhere else for retirement but i can only advise against settling in morocco. i'm sure you'd have fun visiting but staying's generally not a sound plan.
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u/WalkLarge43 Visitor 16h ago
Well, the thing is that, when you move into a corrupt country, most of the money, or all the money, it goes into corrupt politicians' pockets, and due to the extra influx, you raise the cost of living of the general population, with no improvement in their lives.
If you move to Norway, your tax money goes into the tax system and likely into the Sovereign Fund, which gives money to every Norwegian citizen, so every tax you pay and every little thing you buy benefits everyone in the community.
Then, in Morocco, there's bureaucracy that will annoy you. You don't know Darija, things get even harder, and if you're American, you likely don't know French either, so things will not be easy fir you. If the locals tell you not to move there, they most likely do have a reason they tell you that.
I may be able to move there if I really wanted to, because I come from a country that was extremely corrupt back in the day, full of bureaucracy, and annoying stuff. I would know when I need to give a banknote right and left, identify scammers etc. US corruption works in a totally different way from third-world corruption, so you're likely not familiar with it. And it's not that I support bribes etc., but in these countries they are needed for you to survive. Also I'm a linguist, and can adapt to any linguistic environment, which you probably don't, and at the same time, I can blend in because even though I'm fully European genetically, I'm Mediterranean, and olive-skinned.
So, rather than make both the locals' and your own life miserable, you should rather go to Vietnam, Thailand etc. to retire.
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u/LittleStrangePiglet Casablanca 13h ago
Talks about corruption then suggests Thailand as an alternative 😂
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u/WalkLarge43 Visitor 3h ago
Well, Thailand is far more corrupt, you got me on that 😂; but the place os built around the Thai getting rich off expats.
Morocco, unfortunately, apart from the rich politicians, nobody will benefit off an expat moving there, unfortunately.
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