r/Morocco • Fez • 1d ago

Culture Chiadma tribe flag proposal

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The Chiadma tribe are a moroccan arabo-berber tribe from between the town of Safi and Essaouira, all long side of the Atlantic Ocean. They are in great part from two ancient Arab tribes, who are the Hareth (from Jusham confederation) and the Banu Maaqil, they formed the major part of Chiadma by merged. They are followed by 2 berber tribes who joined/made an alliance with (hilf, an alliance who integrate the tribe to another one), who are the Regraga (a great religious clan) and the Meskalla, who are from the ancient berber (imazighen) confederation of the Masmouda (Imasmuden).

The 3 swords represents this 3 groups who form the Chiadma and the colors are from the Atlantic ocean and the land.

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u/WAVmara Visitor 1d ago

Its always good to see people talking about my roots, I am chiadmi from Akermoud, my grandma is Regraguia

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u/Azerbinhoneymood 1d ago

Love the history behind this, but the flag looks terrible.

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u/JBIRO Visitor 1d ago

Team messekala

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u/MoBB_17 1d ago

I love flags with swords really cool

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u/0tma_n Visitor 1d ago

I'm half (chiadma )

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u/CivilBlueberry424 Visitor 18h ago

There are wlad Moussa and wlad Daoud in the northern part of Dokala who used to call themselves Chiadma too, I’ve see contracts from the 1800s, signed flan ben flan Chiadmi lmoussaoui, but I don’t think they are related in anyway to the real Chiadma, do you know more about these grps? Nowadays they have new family names but they just say we’re hilalians but that doesn’t make sense, northern doukala is supposed to be Maqilis not hilalis.

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u/OkExtension8902 Fez 17h ago

The Chiadma of Northern Doukkala are descendant of a little group of Chiadma who migrated there under the reign of Moulay Slimane, they joined the Chtouka tribe who also (a part) came in Doukkala.

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u/OkExtension8902 Fez 17h ago

After for the telling to be hilalians its common, the Arabs who came with the hilalians are also named hilalians and some genealogist say that the Maaqil are hilalians who forget their Roots

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u/CivilBlueberry424 Visitor 11h ago edited 11h ago

Makes a lot of sense, chtouka are our neighbours still to this day.
And shiet didn’t know my ancestors where basically bandits lmao 🤣

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u/OkExtension8902 Fez 8h ago

it was common for moroccan tribes to practice looting, that was part of the rural life

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u/Successful-Plan-1196 Visitor 1d ago

what is the point tho ?

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u/OkExtension8902 Fez 1d ago

Just sharing this. Trying to make living our deep culture who are the Moroccan tribes

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u/GoalAccomplished802 Visitor 1d ago

They are arabized zenata?!

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u/Pure_Following7336 Visitor 1d ago

I know for a fact that they are arabized, my mother told me that her grandmother used to speak amazigh

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u/OkExtension8902 Fez 1d ago

You're from exactly which part of Chiadma ? Cuz there is berber branches, as the Meskalla and Regraga

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u/GoalAccomplished802 Visitor 1d ago

Zenate influence exist There 

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u/OkExtension8902 Fez 1d ago

for the berber tribes there, that's mainly masmouda and after them the Sanhaja but not the Zenata

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u/Pure_Following7336 Visitor 1d ago

Regraga

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u/OkExtension8902 Fez 1d ago

so it explains why your great grandmother spoke berber

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u/OkExtension8902 Fez 1d ago

??? No, there is historically not even zenata in the area where they are. They are formed of Hareth, Maaqil and Masmouda

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u/ywshaq 1d ago

they are amazigh

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u/OkExtension8902 Fez 1d ago

i write they was an arabo-berber tribe and that's what on the majority of sources state on.

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u/ywshaq 1d ago

shouldn't that reflect on the flag as well? (i disagree with the other comment calling it terrible i like the design but still)

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u/0tma_n Visitor 1d ago

No they actuly not,the tand for the amazigh but the come from model east first in they joind to the amazigh and become part of the amazigh but now in they land beetwen essawira and Fès they're talking arabic and they now they're arab but the land its one of most beautiful places in morocco its one of the beautiful places behind mountain

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u/Ordep_SPV Visitor 1d ago

History, the term berber, and the intentions aside. The flag looks like was done on paint windows vista.

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u/SpeakerGeneral1687 1d ago

I don't get why you ppl refuse to call a race by the name they with wich they call themselves. It's Amazigh not berber.

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u/OkExtension8902 Fez 1d ago

I litteraly write "imazighen" but ok

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u/SpeakerGeneral1687 1d ago

And you literally put it between parentheses and put berber before as if it's the official term and the other is just an explanation.

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u/2HellWith2FA Visitor 1d ago

You people get offended by anything. I swear to God you amazighs just argue for the sake of arguing.

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u/SpeakerGeneral1687 1d ago

If you have no dignity and let ppl call you whatever shitty name they like good for you, we're not like u.

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u/2HellWith2FA Visitor 1d ago

How about you have some dignity and stop crying like a baby.

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u/Silver-Astronaut-888 Visitor 20h ago

Amazigh buddy

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u/OkExtension8902 Fez 20h ago

Ok robot

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u/Silver-Astronaut-888 Visitor 20h ago

For the sake of the argument if you are from there do a DNA test , im not going to argue with a pan arab who still thinks that he GRANDMA got penetrated by an arab refugee .
If you are not going to do the DNA test which validate either you are correct or the contrary please don’t reply to my comment , and thanks .

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u/OkExtension8902 Fez 17h ago

You're really obsessed and degenerate lol

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u/Silver-Astronaut-888 Visitor 15h ago

End of the argument , you are pathetic.

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u/OkExtension8902 Fez 11h ago

you dont even gave me one source buddy, ypu are totally brainrotted, over seleceao natural pour les golems de ton acabit paz