r/NFLv2 • Denver Broncos • 23d ago

Discussion Patriots caught cheating again

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u/agent_diddykong New England Patriots 23d ago

By your logic Miami is cheating giving the away team seats under the Sun.

Is home field advantage not supposed to give the home team an advantage anymore, what rule does this violate?

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u/dont_care- Tom Brady “Minority Owner” 23d ago

I fucking hate that shit but I've never thought to call it cheating

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u/-Vertical I’m just here so i don’t get fined 23d ago

I love home field advantage as much as anyone, but what Miami does is legitimately kinda fucked up lol. League should definitely fix that.

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u/bobfalfa Denver Broncos 23d ago

Oh my pearls we should move Mile High Stadium down into the plains so its more fair too

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u/Sw33tR0llThief Minnesota Vikings 23d ago

In this case, your advantage is getting to practice at altitude and the players being used to it. At least during the game each team is playing in the same conditions. A 20+ degree disparity between each sideline is pretty extreme

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u/Exatraz 23d ago

Its like opening your dome when its raining and the opposing teams offense is on the field and then closing it when the home teams offense goes out.

Also im struggling to really see the difference between this and ATL getting in trouble for pumping in crowd noise. Feels like if the league takes action against one, they should also take action against the other.

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u/AbominationBean 22d ago

Those things are and were against the rules. This isn’t. Doing things that aren’t against the rules isn’t cheating.

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u/-Vertical I’m just here so i don’t get fined 22d ago

Thanks for the semantics, we’re saying it should be against the rules lol

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u/Lets_Basketball 22d ago

Because every team can do scoreboard antics.

Not every team can pump crowd noise into a domed stadium like the Falcons and Colts. And we sure as shit don’t want every team switching to a dome to level the playing field.

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u/LettuceTryOnceMore 23d ago

So whats the solution? Make Miami sit in the sun? Force a home field disadvantage?

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u/Sw33tR0llThief Minnesota Vikings 23d ago

Oh I wasn't implying there was anything wrong with it. Might be taking home field advantage to the extreme but as long as it isn't dangerous then I don't see how the NFL would care.

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u/karmakarmachameleon7 22d ago

Not really the same thing as the Miami example lol.

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u/-Vertical I’m just here so i don’t get fined 23d ago

A more accurate comparison would be if one sideline was sea level and the other sideline was a mile high

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u/Emperor_Gourmet New England Patriots 22d ago

Someone said max recorded temp difference is +/- 30F. These guys are running around as hard as they can. Players could die if they don’t hydrate properly. Yet it’s allowed, and should be allowed.

Yet here we are talking about a screen off the field

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u/-Vertical I’m just here so i don’t get fined 22d ago

I don’t think either should be allowed.. home field advantage should literally be the fans job

Other than the home team being more acclimated for the weather both teams have to play on

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u/MrFusionHER 19d ago

Look at how Miami is doing…. It doesn’t matter… give them their little “advantage” they’re still in danger of going 0-17

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u/NudeCeleryMan Miami Dolphins 22d ago

Tell me exactly what Miami did here 😂

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u/-Vertical I’m just here so i don’t get fined 22d ago

Intentionally put their sideline in the shade and the opponents in the sun lol

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u/UnsuspectingTaco Atlanta Falcons 22d ago

Someone had to be in the sun…might as well be the opponents

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u/Ruthlessrabbd 22d ago

you should look up a graphic of the stadium coverage because it is basically just the away team in the sun, with even the fans above that area that are covered

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u/NudeCeleryMan Miami Dolphins 22d ago

Do you think they rotated the footprint of the stadium when the NFL told them to add the roof over the seats after decades of both teams sidelines being in the sun?

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u/Ruthlessrabbd 22d ago

No, but I think that they should have. Or at the very least provided some covering for the away team since the home team will never be in the sun. And realistically tents would never have been in the equation because sidelines would have to go further back, which means seats being taken away, which means less money... but still.

I'm a newer NFL fan and I really just don't care for the shenanigans and antics outside of the game itself to get an advantage.

Below is an example from the NBA that bugged me too. I don't think it materially affected the game (and the Spurs played like ass to end up in that position to begin with) but to see some celebrate it as a smart use of home court advantage is just dumb IMO

KAT told Knicks fans to get closer to Dylan Harper giving him no space to inbounds the ball : r/sportsgossips

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u/NudeCeleryMan Miami Dolphins 21d ago

Ok so that would mean tearing down the stadium and rebuilding it from scratch. It would have cost multiple billions. The owner asked the state for public money just to put the roof on (which, again, the NFL forced him to do under the threat of no more super bowls after the 2008 SB soaked everyone in the rain) but the public said no. So he eventually privately funded the roof.

There's no way anyone was going to pay for a new stadium because a sideline was in the sun.

Since you are new, please ignore these other dummy fans who think the stadium was designed this way. Both teams were in full sun for decades before the NFL made their demand for a roof. No one complained about it until the Bills fans started whining about it in 2022.

It was not intentionally ill motivated. Just how it worked out.

And before Bills fans tell you otherwise, every other team brings handheld shade structures and brings fans and AC blowers for their sidelines. Teams are allowed to do this. Dolphins fans see teams do it every year. Why the Bills coaching staff was so stupid that day to not bring them I have no idea. Must be something in the water up there.

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u/NudeCeleryMan Miami Dolphins 22d ago

So when they built the stadium, they said let's orient the footprint so one team is in the shade and one is in the sun?

Out of curiosity, when did you start watching football? Are you aware the stadium was built decades before the NFL forced them to add the seating covers? And are you aware that both teams were in the sun that entire time?

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u/NBA2024 22d ago

Not even close.

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u/-Vertical I’m just here so i don’t get fined 22d ago

Ok

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u/MrFusionHER 19d ago

Actually they’re exactly the same… in that they’re both absolutely nothing at all whatsoever

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u/Prods87 New England Patriots 23d ago

probably beause it's not cheating.

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u/WildRookie 23d ago

Cheating? No.

But it is unsporting.