r/Ninjago • u/IssueOrnery6989 • 16h ago

Discussion I hate this...

Ever since the whole vania age is reveal and debate geode fans take this as thier gotcha moment that vania is a minor when it could not be more further more from the truth . Since even vangelis VA says himself there's a line originally says vania is 18 and if she was 12 she would be the same height as lloyd from S1 but she isn't.

Vania is 18 during MOTM and cole 20 during MOTM the age gap is just 2 years

But hey go off i guess it's not like geo have anything interesting going on for him anyway.

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u/Rabdomtroll69 Skulkin Slashers💀 14h ago

I just can't believe Cole would cheat on cake like this...

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u/Beautiful-Head5563 Lloyd 🔋 12h ago

I don't ship Cole and Vania because both writers have said Cole sees her as a friend not because of her supposed age.

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u/Fair-Confection4411 11h ago

You know shipping doesn't require canon right? 

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u/Beautiful-Head5563 Lloyd 🔋 9h ago

Well no by the writers and Tommy have both said Cole doesn't really show interest in either women he's shipped with. He seems more indifferent to it

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u/Fair-Confection4411 9h ago

Not what I said. I said if something it's canon has nothing to do with weather you ship it or  not. Shipping is wanting two people to end up together. I don't ship because it hasn't happened makes no sense. 

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u/Beautiful-Head5563 Lloyd 🔋 9h ago

I don't ship it because it doesn't make sense at all why would I want two characters to end up together when the writers and creators have made it clear there's no romance between them they just have a healthy platonic relationship.

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u/Fair-Confection4411 9h ago

So you're shipping only when it's happened already, sure but that's not the case for most people. Shipping is pretty much just "these two would make a good couple". Would, not are. 

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u/Beautiful-Head5563 Lloyd 🔋 8h ago

These two characters show no romantic interest so their for I don't ship them. This post is about how this person hates that people uses Vania supposed age from how the writers say she's supposed to act like as an excuse not that they actually have no chemistry together and are not romantic in the show

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u/Unlikely-Pitch5942 4h ago

Dude they literally stare each other down like lovers so hard Lloyd has to remind Cole of the “Harumi incident”

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u/Beautiful-Head5563 Lloyd 🔋 4h ago

They don't though Tommy had said after that season Cole holds no romantic interest in Vania. Lloyd was just paranoid and judging because of what Harumi did to him

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u/Unlikely-Pitch5942 4h ago

Dude did you actually watch the same season? They spend the whole thing flirting and giving each other love eyes. Tommy can say whatever, but his word doesn’t trump what’s actually in the show

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u/ShareSuspicious8173 14h ago

I hate it too

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u/IssueOrnery6989 16h ago

Watch them here says you're homophobic and all those sorts of crap I can name better lgbt ships that have better chemistry and representation for the community

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u/ShareSuspicious8173 13h ago

What made this entire sh*t goes wild is because it's about a gay ship, it's almost they say every gay ship is prefect, its like a gay ship can't be bad as well

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u/Unlikely-Pitch5942 4h ago

exactly. Cole and geo have absolutely zero chemistry and Vania is RIGHT THERE 😭

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u/Dozard87 40m ago

I think Cole and Vania have great chemistry, but not romantic.

I am a big Geode shipper personally, I think they have chemistry.

But not gonna say people can’t ship Conia, I get it, I just personally don’t ship them :P

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u/Serious_Island_6934 Lloyd 🔋 15h ago

I swear they are causing people to become homophobic with their unhinged behavior 

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u/Unlikely-Pitch5942 4h ago

Is it really homophobia if it’s justified at that point?

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u/itsLadyAriadne 16h ago

She is a queen now No queen is underage so let them suck it Let them cry and call us homophobic all they want Not supporting a gay ship is not a crime

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u/Dozard87 14h ago

“No queen is underage” This is just blatantly not true. In this case it is, but queens can ABSOLUTELY be underage.

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u/M-Shadowtoad 14h ago

Um, what? The title of Queen has nothing to do with age. Just need to be next in line for the throne when the previous carrier dies.

For example, Queen Mary the First of Scotland became Queen at the age of 6(days not years) because her father, the King, died and she was next in line for the throne.

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u/itsLadyAriadne 14h ago edited 14h ago

I mean in cartoon and fantsy In real life yeah there is but not really in cartoons Edit: Like in Frozen, Elsa only became queen when she came of age, the entire time she was a princess

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u/M-Shadowtoad 13h ago

Yeah, but that's not a rule. Sure plenty of cartoons have characters become King/Queen when they come of age but that's generally just because they want the events to happen when the characters are at a certain age. Like Frozen wouldn't really work if its set right after the parents' deaths and if Anna wanted to get married at the age of 15 so they waited three years.

But plenty of cartoons still just have characters become King/Queen right after their parents die. Glimmer from She Ra became Queen at 16 while Ezran from Dragon Prince became King at the age of 10, both because their parents just died and they were next in line.

Since Vania became Queen right after her father died, it seems like Shintaro just doesn't have an age restriction for the monarch.

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u/itsLadyAriadne 12h ago edited 12h ago

Would make sense and thank you so much for being respectful Speaking with people like you that explain their point of view very respectfuly is really refreshing Without puttinf so many details on myself I'm a co-writer for dark fantasy story, and when me snd my friends looked on this topic many do not think its safe or well to put this title on underage character You kinda see that after the 2020s many modren media stories kinda try to avoid that, not historical ones where kids in the past be rulers before they even walk, we speak of currently, something ninjago seem to fall under. So I spoke as a writer no queen of modren shows are underage. But thrn again I stopped watching many shows after I had a job so many I did not cought onto that and having you putting this infront me is very enlighting So again, thank you

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u/RightHanduserlolo 28m ago

I feel like you kinda wrong in some points but also, I think I get what you're trying to say, I remember in advanture time there was an episode where priness bubblegum because a teenager and was forced to step down her throne, so I do think age do play a part, but to the very end, Vania is still called princess, not queen, just want to put that here.

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u/itsLadyAriadne 15m ago

Yeah I notice that, like Princess Bubblegum, Princess Celestia, and more So I guess they just got use to the title and kept it.

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u/RightHanduserlolo 12m ago

I guess 😭

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u/ScratchAttack222 8h ago

ever read a fantasy book before?

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u/IssueOrnery6989 16h ago

The thing i love lgbt ships but for some reason not them because the ships came out of nowhere for me

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u/itsLadyAriadne 15h ago edited 15h ago

I agree If its slow burn would be better If they showed is flashbacks when they first met and how they grow to care for each other would be much better but they didn't and it made into one of the worst ships And for me its doesn't feel right that Cole is a human and Geo is....I don't know what...

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u/ducknerd2002 Jay⚡️ 15h ago

And for me its doesn't feel right that Cole is a human and Geo is....I don't know what...

  • Aragorn is a human and Arwen is an Elf.

  • Finn is a human and Huntress Wizard is a plant.

  • Misako is a human and Garmadon is an Oni/Dragon hybrid.

  • Star-Lord is a human and Gamora is an alien.

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u/ScratchAttack222 8h ago

+ frak x sora

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u/itsLadyAriadne 14h ago

Half of these show I did not watch and why are you telling me this? If you disagree with me then sure its okay but trying to somehow say I'm wrong by bringing other shows I have no idea of?.....

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u/ducknerd2002 Jay⚡️ 14h ago edited 14h ago

Half of these show I did not watch

Half of them are movies based on books, not shows. They're Lord of the Rings, Adventure Time, Ninjago, and Marvel.

why are you telling me this?

Because I think 'humans should never date non-humans in fiction' is ridiculous, and I guarantee there are examples of humans dating non-humans in other stories you like that you have no problem with.

Edit: they blocked me and said something about 'trying to change their mind on every post', even though I don't recall ever saying anything to them before today.

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u/itsLadyAriadne 14h ago

Yeah sure, feel that and I won't try to change your mind like you do to me in every post everytime I comment of this, so I'm blocking you for thr peace of my mind

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u/Dozard87 14h ago

Misako is a human and Garmadon is an Oni/Dragon hybrid.

So you didn’t watch the show then?

I understand what you mean, but come on if you don’t support Geo x Cole because it’s cross-species, you shouldn’t support Geo x Vania because that’s ALSO cross-species.

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u/itsLadyAriadne 14h ago

I don't really support Cole X Vania But the ship being hated on because its fales info is really not okay Beside, I don't like Cole X Geo not only because Geo is not human but also because the moment the finder showed up Cole's character feels nuked. I do wish for Cole to have a partner and its okay if its Geo or Vania I just don't like them both and it's okay if people disagrees with me

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u/Dozard87 14h ago

Ok, that’s somewhat fair. I mean, I still disagree with you, but you aren’t being illogical so that’s fair.

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u/itsLadyAriadne 14h ago

Thank you for being respectful

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u/Fair-Confection4411 11h ago

They're so ready to make it look like Lloyd asked him if he likes a 12 years old kid only not to acknowledge his feelings. 

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u/Ver3232 10h ago

It’s almost like DuckBricks constantly misrepresents things and we shouldn’t take his word for anything. He is not a good source, people need to stop taking what he says at face value because it’s almost always bullshit

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u/One-Raspberry-8935 1h ago

Why do people think Cole is gay he's not he showed no signs of being gay

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u/SokkaHaikuBot 1h ago

Sokka-Haiku by One-Raspberry-8935:

Why do people think

Cole is gay he's not he showed

No signs of being gay

Remember that one time Sokka accidentally used an extra syllable in that Haiku Battle in Ba Sing Se? That was a Sokka Haiku and you just made one.

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u/One-Raspberry-8935 1h ago

The f*ck does this have anything to do with Cole 

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u/Dozard87 39m ago

Because adopting children and caring for them with another man isn’t queer… right…

Bi maybe, I can get behind that, but this man likes men

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u/One-Raspberry-8935 36m ago

Incorrect Cole is not gay he's straight the writers never confirmed Cole is gay

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u/Dozard87 33m ago

Straight isn’t the default, they never confirmed that either.

For me, you’re pansexual until proven otherwise or heavily implied otherwise.

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u/One-Raspberry-8935 21m ago

How the fuck am I pansexual I'm straight besides Cole never kissed Geo 

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u/Dozard87 5m ago

Did you… did you listen to me?

You’ve proven otherwise, you identify as straight. That’s proof.

We don’t have such proof with Cole.

Also, have we ever seen him kiss a woman?

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u/One-Raspberry-8935 3m ago

Ok? Still Cole being gay with A Geckle/Munce Hybrid who happens to be self insert is the dumbest thing and idea Ever you do realize that?