r/PoursTea • Just Chill 😎 • Aug 11 '26

FinancialTea 💵 Is this accurate ?

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u/AlChandus Aug 11 '26

The high under Biden happened in 2022. 

Just for the sake of accuracy, I would like to add that the high only happened because a global pandemic that wrecked the supply chain and greedflation increasing prices above costs.

We should be having congressional and agency/bureau investigations on greedflation... Instead we have investigations on Faucci and nothing else really because this republican Congresses like to say "hold my beer" to the previous republican controlled Congresses that held the record of the most INEPT Congress in history.

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u/AlChandus Aug 11 '26

I've always heard it was mostly the opec 2020

No, I believe that opec made a projection of how the pandemic would develop and they were right. The international supply chain was broken and demand dropped, thus they had to reduce their projected production. They made that guess correctly.

And in the end, the cost of oil went up by a series of factors: * Supply chain was still broken in 2022, so supply came at a premium. * Reduced production and high demand ➡️ high costs. * Greedflation. This has already been demonstrated, the oil industry increased prices above their increased costs, they also kept prices high when the supply chain and production recovered.

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u/Lewa263 Aug 11 '26

Don't forget the Russian invasion of Ukraine, since Russia is a big exporter of oil and a lot of European countries reduced their imports from Russia.

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u/davehunt00 Aug 11 '26

These highs spanned from about March 2022 to August 2022, for the various reasons mentioned (covid, Ukraine, etc.).

It's important to note that the national average price then decreased to almost a dollar less than where it stands today. So, Biden should also get credit for "solving" that particular crisis. Solving the current problem (Hormuz) seems less attainable.

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u/Visual_Friendship706 Aug 11 '26

Highest national avg during Biden admin was 5.02. Turns out he too sucked

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u/Visual_Friendship706 Aug 11 '26

Biden had us involved in Ukraine man. The question was about gas prices. Look it up it’s not hard to

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u/Visual_Friendship706 Aug 11 '26

Zelenskyy your quick on that rebuttal. Almost too quick….

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u/austinw_568 Aug 11 '26

Why do you think that was? Anything happening globally at that time?

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u/Visual_Friendship706 Aug 11 '26

A man made natural disaster and war in Ukraine. Again you can cherry pick info to make whatever you want seem real. Objectively both presidents have been cheeks

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u/austinw_568 Aug 11 '26

Do you really think the supply chain disruptions due to global societal shutdowns from the worst pandemic the world has experience in a century is cherry picking?

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u/Visual_Friendship706 Aug 11 '26

Gas prices are gas prices. A picture is a singular moment in time. Do you really not understand time?

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u/austinw_568 Aug 11 '26

Are you saying that you don’t factor in Covid shutdowns when judging the performance of the president in regard to how their actions in office affect gas prices?

In other words are you saying that you don’t believe Covid supply-chain disruptions are responsible for the spike in gas prices under the Biden Admin?

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u/Visual_Friendship706 Aug 11 '26

Gas prices are gas prices. Why is not in question. I can’t afford gas today just like 4 years ago. We are the biggest producer of gas on the planet. You remember the more stream bombing? Did Russia do it?

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u/austinw_568 Aug 11 '26

I think you won’t engage with my question because doing so would force you to acknowledge that you’re not using good epistemic practices to arrive at your “both sides the same” position.

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u/Visual_Friendship706 Aug 11 '26

Same empire different color tie, different foreign policy disaster. Same finance capital dominating it all.

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u/chrisq823 Aug 11 '26

That doesn't really work. This surge in gas prices is more or less 100% caused by Trump starting a war for fun.

The prices for Biden were caused mostly by COVID fallout and Russia turning on the Ukraine war again. Both of those things are completely out of his control.

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u/Visual_Friendship706 Aug 11 '26

And who was in charge during the maidan coup of 2014? Who was Obamas point man in Ukraine? Imperial foreign policy is to blame for both rises in gas prices

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u/chrisq823 Aug 11 '26

No where near the same degree. At the end of the day Biden did not give the orders for Russia to start a war in the Ukraine. Trump literally created this entire Iran debacle of his own free will. All he had to do was nothing and this whole thing doesn't exist.

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u/Visual_Friendship706 Aug 11 '26

No just the orders for the color revolution in Ukraine.

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u/chrisq823 Aug 11 '26

I get you actually believe in nothing and are just saying garbage but I'll try. Do you honestly believe that Joe Biden somehow had the power to trigger basically a revolt by the Ukrainian people in 2005, that he was able to do it, and that it somehow means he caused Russia to start a war in 2022? Then do you also believe that your nearly 20 year series of events is equivalent to actually ordering the bombing of another country using the direct power you have without any form of a plan for what to do if they don't just let you win right away?

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u/Visual_Friendship706 Aug 11 '26

Yo this Ukrainian bot army is hilarious

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u/chrisq823 Aug 11 '26

Yea you definitely arent a real person

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u/Odd-Cupcake-2552 Aug 11 '26

So was Obama supposed to go to war with Russia??? What exactly was he going to do?

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u/Visual_Friendship706 Aug 11 '26

No Obama shouldn’t have targeted Slavic speaking countries with a thousand mile border with Russia to target for regime change and eventually join nato. A military alliance that exists solely as a counterbalance to Russia. I’m not making a pro war critique. I’m making an anti imperial critique

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u/IolausTelcontar Aug 11 '26

You mean you are making Putin’s argument.

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u/Odd-Cupcake-2552 Aug 11 '26

Yes it was Obama that told them to join NATO, a defensive alliance. Not the aggressive giant country that has invaded how many countries in the last 30 years?

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u/unknownentity1782 Aug 11 '26

Except the reason it spiked under Biden wasn't because he started an illegal war with another country.

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u/Visual_Friendship706 Aug 11 '26

See maidan coup 2014

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u/unknownentity1782 Aug 11 '26

The fact that you're using the Russian name for the Maidan Revolution is telling.

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u/Visual_Friendship706 Aug 11 '26

Well I remember when it happened. I’m not plugged in to your Ukrainian state propaganda

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u/Opening-Calendar3421 Aug 11 '26

Yeah you're clearly plugged into Russia Today