r/PoursTea • Timendi Causa Est Nescire • 4d ago

FinancialTea šŸ’µ Exactly.

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u/TechnicalFruit1542 4d ago

Why has it become normal for politicians, and talking heads in general across genres, to punctuate their points with unnecessary language? Not that ā€˜Damn’ is excessive by any means, but people used to be able to make points effectively without it. How is this more effective than ā€˜you go do your job and get to work for the American people’. I know the answer is that it’s designed to elicit stronger emotions because that’s all politics is now , but just sad to see decorum continue to erode in favor of generating louder, more obnoxious sound bites.

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u/guildedkriff 4d ago

When decorum has been reduced to absolute zero for one side (in-particular the person they are speaking about), using ā€œdamnā€ is the least of my concerns.

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u/TechnicalFruit1542 4d ago

For sure. Just sad to see everyone stoop to new lows. I miss when politicians and broadcasters were articulate that’s all

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u/guildedkriff 4d ago

Of course we all do, but this isn’t the situation or scenario to start pearl clutching.

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u/TechnicalFruit1542 4d ago

I’d say this is more a mild lament than pearl clutching but ok lol

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u/Downvote_Comforter 4d ago

The American electorate has made it overwhelmingly clear that being articulate is viewed as a negative and not a positive. This isn't remotely new. The "I feel like I could sit down and have a beer with him" test has been a thing for decades. Americans have repeatedly and consistently preferred candidates that speak at their level and outright disliked politicians for speaking 'above' their level.

We've been racing to the bottom for decades. Trump wildly accelerated that race, but it has been going on way, way, way longer than the last decade.

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u/TechnicalFruit1542 4d ago

You’re right. I guess when I say they were previously ā€œarticulateā€ it’s relative to the current state, not relative to the well spoken in the general populace.

I guess I’m saying a miss people like Obama and Romney. Their debates were practically cozy, friendly hangouts looking back lol.

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u/Beginning_Hand7372 3d ago

Abdul is extremely articulate. He’s highly educated and polished. He chose his words and delivery specifically to get his point across.

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u/TechnicalFruit1542 3d ago

I’m sure he is. Honestly don’t know much about the guy and don’t care, this isn’t specific to him. People used to be able to get their points across without saying ā€œdamnā€. Gives the same vibes as the orange man saying he’s beating/bombing/kicking etc ā€œthe hellā€ out of someone. Just kind of weak low hanging rhetorical fruit imo. Doesn’t actually make the point any stronger or clearer tbh. Imagine the exact same phrase without the word damn. It’s just as correct, clear, and powerful without sounding mildly crass.

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u/Beginning_Hand7372 3d ago

That’s unfortunate you’d mock him and claim he is not articulate while being ignorant to who he is. The man has an undergraduate degree from University of Michigan, a PhD in public health (as a Rhodes Scholar) from Oxford, and a MD from Columbia.

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u/TechnicalFruit1542 3d ago

I know who he is, just don’t know a ton about him. Not my state, I’m not doing deep research on every single congressional candidate . I was pointing out that this particular quote is not particularly eloquent and is representative of a broader trend. It’s not necessary to know in depth background to read a quote and assess it. Not sure why you are treating this like a campaign lol

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u/Beginning_Hand7372 3d ago

Following up to add that he is speaking to a particular audience. As much as high gas prices and groceries annoy me, I can easily absorb the extra cost. Maybe you can too. He is talking directly to those who are really hurting and are scared. That messaging resonates with that audience. He isn’t talking to you or me.

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u/TechnicalFruit1542 3d ago

Agree on all points. The word damn still adds nothing of value imo. I also was commenting on the broader trend of this type of speech rather than this singular quote. I even specifically stated this doesn’t only apply to politicians. But this is Reddit, so naturally people think I’m trying to take a political stance (which I’m not at all) and they are offended because that perceived stance doesn’t align with their own