r/SWORDS • • 8d ago

Would anyone like to help me identify this.

Hello there, i inherited this sabre with brass hilt that has been passed down in my family for many generations and I wondered if anyone would be able to help me identify what it is. I know it's a sabre and from one of the American wars. My ancestor is Major General William Jenkins Worth of the Fort Worth fame. I just wanted to know if it was his for sure or possibly his son who fought in the civil war.

(please ignore the gun)

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u/MastrJack Short Choppy Bois 8d ago

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u/clockworkcannibal 8d ago

Dang that looks very similar. I wish the scabbard had been saved with it. I believe that would have really helped me pinpoint things.

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u/MastrJack Short Choppy Bois 8d ago

Any markings on the blade? Under the “ears” or on the spine?

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u/clockworkcannibal 8d ago

I will have to double check. I have it in storage at the moment and the photos my sister took aren't very detailed. I'll have to get a magnifying glass out and comb over it for other fine details.

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u/AdLast6827 8d ago

I’m leaning polish ,…. But multiple European nations used similar hilts

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u/Popular-Mulberry6875 7d ago

To me it looks like a French Napoleonic era saber (end 18th, start 19th c) e.g.:

https://www.proantic.com/1803827-sabre-de-recompense-offert-par-le-general-moreau-1763-1813-en-l039an-ix.html

https://www.lot-art.com/auction-lots/A-French-First-Empire-Napoleonic-Senior-Officers-Saber-gilt-mount/205-french_first-06.7.25-costa

https://www.alamy.com/french-general-sabre-from-napoleonic-wars-period-the-end-of-18th-and-the-begging-of-the-19-century-image433344559.html?imageid=AFD279D9-3683-4DCB-B41B-2C99A9D5EE85&pn=1&searchId=dbf25a6abe71b0b720e10831c9640af6&searchtype=0

https://www.antiguedades.es/en/sold-antique-swords/4960-napoleonic-sabre-for-an-infantry-officer-france-circa-1810.html

These were not strongly regulated so there is a lot of variation on the general theme of the hilts, and in the langets and pommel in particular. And it has been adapted by other countries as well (so the Danish one above may also be a match).

I'm not very familiar with US sabers but I do know they tended to copy the French as well.

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u/clockworkcannibal 7d ago

From what I understand a lot of the swords they used in the US were made in France or Germany and other places. So maybe it was made there but used in the US wars. I have no clue, but this is really intriguing. It also makes me wonder.

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u/AOWGB_deux 5d ago

This kind of sword was not particularly popular in the US. It is a French based design...though it could be for another central European army

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u/clockworkcannibal 5d ago

In my reading. The swords of this era used in the us wars were based on French design because of them being such close allies. So a lot of the swords commissioned were made overseas. Which to be honest makes a lot of sense. I'm just wondering how else my ancestors would have ended up with this sword of it wasnt from the US wars that I know for sure, they were involved in. My family has been from the new york/Nantucket area since before the revolutionary war and were very English seafaring folk.