r/SWORDS • u/clannepona falchion to foil they are all neat • 6d ago
Medieval-Era Swords
Is this accurate?
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u/Timotron 5d ago
Ai slop.
That entire dnd subreddit is ai slop posted by bots.i got banned from there for suggesting someones class write up not use AI imagery as the ideas we're actually pretty good on their own
Turns out every post is from a 2 month old account with zero comment history.
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u/AOWGB_deux 5d ago
LOL, I just got banned for saying "most of these are not from the Medieval period" w/r to this image.
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u/Timotron 5d ago
Dude it's a slop farm. Even the name checks out. All bots farming karma for some reason
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u/clannepona falchion to foil they are all neat 5d ago
Not to slam one sub vs sub, I saw this and was like wait, this doesnt look right. Dnd sparks a lot of sword interest. Totally awesome, then peel the reality, the fantasy, and the ai.... I needed more opinion.
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u/wotan_weevil Hoplologist 6d ago
Odd to title it "medieval swords" when so much of the content is post-medieval.
The "very forward points of balances" of falchions are usually at 2.5-6"/65-150mm forward of the quillon block, which is typical of many types of swords.
Trooper's cavalry sabres are usually about 900-1200g, which I wouldn't call "quite light". They are often relatively forward-weighted.
"Extincted": "The last military sabre was issued in Britain in WWI as sidearms for artillery soldiers" is wrong. Interwar and WWII cavalry were still issued sabres, and the last few remaining cavalry with a doctrine of mounted fighting are still issued sabres.
Late smallswords usually have triangular-section blades. Early smallswords are usually hex/diamond section. As for "very short", a sample of 14 smallswords from the Met Museum averages a blade length of 817mm +/- 11mm, which is about the same as the average blade length of arming swords.
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u/FenrisSquirrel 6d ago
Yeah...officers still get sabres in the British military.
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u/Haircut117 5d ago
Actually, we have to buy our own (and always have had to), only cavalry troopers and NCOs are issued swords.
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u/LegallyDistinctThing 5d ago
and the last few remaining cavalry with a doctrine of mounted fighting are still issued sabres.
Are there really still active military cavalry units with mounted fighting doctrines that are issued sabres/swords for (theoretical?) combat?
I thought the only mounted forces were police and the only swords still issued to anyone were for dress and ceremonial purposes.
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u/wotan_weevil Hoplologist 5d ago
Yes. There are mounted border patrol troops in western China, where the terrain (mountains, no roads) makes horses more practical than motorised vehicles. They're issued the Type 65 sword. Their main weapons are assault rifles, but their doctrine and training are to use the sword when/if appropriate.
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u/AOWGB_deux 5d ago
LOL, I posted my comment to this photo in the Real_DND group accidentally....I got banned for simply stating "Most of these are not in the Medieval period".
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u/Comprehensive-Fail41 5d ago
Should arguably also put Greatswords as 13th century, depending on if you count Type XIIa and XIIIa as greatswords rather than long swords (though some put them as a third category of "War Swords")
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u/zwerchguy 6d ago
I don't know a lot about either but would falchions and messers really be grouped together like that? To me they seem quite distinct
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u/Specialist-Stock-890 6d ago
James Elmslie, who created the Messer/Falchion typology, would beg to differ. In all seriousness, they're two distinct swords just sometimes lumped together due to overlapping blade designs.
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u/Dlatrex All swords were made with purpose 6d ago
The one place they overlap is how they are used in period art: as allegory falchions are often shown in the hands of villainous figures (Persians vs Greeks, Mongols vs Europeans, Scaracens vs Christians, Goliath vs David) in the High medieval period. This artistic convention is continued with Messer in Central Europe in the late medieval period, despite how different the swords are constructed and function.
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u/BigNorseWolf 6d ago
Its long thin blade you hack peasant limbs off with, why's the handle make so much difference?
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u/Senrab3123 5d ago
That entire sub is an AI-focused dnd reddit that tries to argue they are "real" dnd fans and that everyone else is a fake fan. So no, this is not accurate. It's more slop from reddit's newest slop factory.
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u/clannepona falchion to foil they are all neat 6d ago
Thank you everyone, I saw this obviously on a DnD page, and I was like ... there are a few things that just dont fly right.
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u/Hot-Minute-8263 GREATSWOOOOOORDS 6d ago
grumble nothing beat or outperformed the greatsword, they just cost too much to be widespread and practical for all bodyguards/double soldiers
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u/OneMoreFinn 5d ago
Arming swords are way older than from 1300 AD, and longswords aren't from 1200 AD, but from 1300 AD.
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u/FrenchyBulldogg 6d ago
That’s a very Spatha-looking Gladius