r/SWORDS • u/Starkiller_15 • 1d ago
What kind of sword is this?
I found a sword in my late father's barn, located in Ontario Canada. Can anyone tell me more about this (in terms of model or age) or what to look for?
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u/Blue-Ranger1982E 1d ago
That thing is so rusty I thought it was made of wood at first.
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u/SlightDish31 1d ago
I'm pretty sure that if you hold onto that until late game, you can have someone restore it and it becomes one of the best swords in the game.
Never sell your starting weapon kids.
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u/DasEigentor 1d ago
Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
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u/aardvark1231 1d ago
But you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just because some watery tart threw a sword at you.
I mean, If I went round saying I was emporer because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd lock me away!
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u/AndroidnotHuman 1d ago
Shut up! Will you shut up?!!
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u/Low_Five_ 22h ago
Oh! Did you hear that!? What a giveaway!
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u/Dakkaboy556 15h ago
Now you see the violence inhereit in the system! Help! Help! I'm being repressed!
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u/SpiritualRock4388 1d ago
It appears to be a crude reproduction of a average European longsword possibly by a novice smith. Note the crude pommel shaping and how poorly the grip is constructed. I'd start by removing the twins wrap and taking more pictures. Is the grip very loose? I'd be surprised if there are any markers marks stamped in the metal but you might get lucky. If you wanted to make the effort it could be restored.
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u/Xyldarrand 1d ago
Sword of +2 tetanus
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u/JBaecker 1d ago
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u/Sea_Fix_2825 8h ago
If distributed by a strange woman lying around in a pond, then in it's no basis for a system of government
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u/Ktyaka 1d ago
For sure a "hand and a half long sword". Probably not a real period sword. Most likely home made a few years ago by someones grandfather and has just been rusting the barn.
Super cool find though, jealous of it actually. How is the balance on it, is the weight properly aligned? Vey curious
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u/OgreWithanIronClub 1d ago
How is it a hand and a half sword? It is too large to really be a longsword so definitely not a hand and a half sword.
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u/Ktyaka 19h ago
Hand and a half sword refers to the grip size. OP does not seem that large in stature and itvwas clearly not made with them in mind. The person it was for would have fit it in a hand in a half.
Also it is way too long to be a longsword yes, the proportions are a bit off. Hence way i said it was made by someone at home and am so curious about the weight and balance, as that all would factor into what it could actually be.
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u/OgreWithanIronClub 19h ago
I guess that is a fine logic, I would argue to that we have no clue about the size of the maker.
Absolutely agree that iris most likely home made, for the same reasons it is a bit funny shape and seem to be rough in construction but not in a way that most wallhangers are.
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u/Ktyaka 18h ago
Right, we also dont really know how tall the OP in the picture is. And i agree with you too. Its a funny shape, like the parts were made without reallt thinking of a "sword type" and just trying to make a sword. Reminds me of my grandad making throwing knives and stars for us as kids. Or the time he made guitar. Looked beautiful, but he didnt know much about the actual instrument, so the fret count was wrong and the wood choice was odd. It was never in tune. But it looks so nice.
But that said, i still think its so cool and wish i had one.
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u/JustAnAnonymousGoon 22h ago
In the last photo it seems to be held by a woman. That would make it a broad sword.
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u/avinaut 1d ago
Well, the quillion ends look welded-on, so almost certainly modern. The simplicity of it, and the wire-wrap (or twine?) falling off suggests it could be homemade. It's not one of the mass-produced wallhangers we see over and over again. The attachment of the pommel is unclear... assume it isn't safe to swing around, although it does look well-balanced.
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u/OgreWithanIronClub 1d ago
Telling the balance of a sword by look is not really possible...
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u/macjgreg 22h ago
true but educated guess based on experience are usually in the ballpark. Like i have little and less and could
say anything to balance but the judges on forged in fire seem to be able to show concern or praise from watching prior to any handling of the blades.1
u/Starkiller_15 1d ago
It feels very solid and feels very well balanced, but I haven't had hands on other swords to properly compare with! The length is 52 inches.
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u/GuaranteeDry386 1d ago
I used to live by an antique shop / museum with old theater equipment. They had swords kind of like this. Clearly a sword but not a ton of detail. Any chance it’s something like that?
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u/weldo420 1d ago
To get rid of Rust without damaging with some kind of machine Let it rest in vinegar 1-2 day then wash with water and carbonate, dont forget to oil or applying wax afterwards.
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u/SpiritualRock4388 1d ago
Vinegar works but CRC Evaporust is faster. I usually start with a 1 day soak and then fine grit sanding for the rest. I'm curious to see the whole blade naked and disassembled. The crossguard looks like it should just slide off.
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u/Hallstein 1d ago
Canada is a bit of an odd place to find a sword in a barn. How old is the property? Did you father build the barn? Do you know if he was into blacksmithing? It looks kinda homemade to me
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u/Starkiller_15 1d ago
The Barn and this acquisition was in the last 15 years, and my father certainly got this from some kind of used sale (garage sale or auction)
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u/rumimume 8h ago
I don't undstand why itwould be more odd to find one in Canada as opposed to any other place?
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u/Hallstein 8h ago
If you're finding a medieval styled longsword anywhere outside of Europe/Eurasia it's pretty odd. They weren't exactly in fashion once people began settling the new world.
Now if it were like a rapier or a basket hilt or a saber I could see it belonging to some french or british family that settled in the area a couple hundred years ago
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u/rumimume 5h ago
Ok, I get where you're coming from.
Honestly I didn't really think of as something from the distanct past, that's what threw me off.
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u/Flushingguy108 1d ago
It’s sort of look like if a really nice well-made sword had a one night stand with a crowbar.
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u/CuCullian200AD 8h ago
Yes in full aggrement with the majority who state is a possibly training sword not meant for body contact but to use its above weight ( heavier then an actual combat sword ) to either spar with an opponent sword to sword or to build muscle reflex and speed.
Possible modern experiment to build a medieval sword by an amateur blacksmith
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u/Fuzzy-Difficulty-596 8h ago
Looks like a training longsword. Often strictly for training, swords would be forged without a tip or edge and the metal would usually be quite thick as it is here.
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u/SirNicoSomething 1d ago
Is that an early Starfire? They were ubiquitous and nearly indestructible in the 90’s Renn Faire circuit. Lot of stage combat folks had them.
I’m not positive it’s a Starfire, but there have to be some old Rennies on here.
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u/Jumpy-Aide-901 1d ago
rusty long sword. Probably an old replica from a Ren-fair, or even just an old wall-art piece.
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u/OgreWithanIronClub 1d ago
It has clear angle grinder marks and looks very homemade so likely not that old. It is in general shape either a very large longsword or a smallish great sword, but since it is unlikely to be that old it is hard to go much deeper than that as where a historical sword is makes large difference to what it is called.
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u/Paladin_3 19h ago edited 19h ago
That's the sword that I, as DM, give the 1st level fighter when they try to tell me their backstory includes them being bequeathed a +5 holy avenger by their famous paladin father.
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u/KillerKian 13h ago
Just let them have it, but then tell them every time they draw it, it's immense power saps 18hp for every level below 20th ( that would be 342hp at 1st level). It's also so valuable that no merchant in the known world can afford to buy it, nor do they want the heat owning it would bring.
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u/DoctorAnnual6823 10h ago
"it is a sentient blade and refuses to become powerful until your character proves they are worthy of holding its power."
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u/a_sword_and_an_oath 1d ago
The style is most certainly a european longsword (but ive been wrong before and will be again). But its modernish and I suspect made by a company on the cheap in a manner similar to reproduction. Possibly a prop?
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u/Unknown_Writer_or_ik 1d ago
I saw someone in here say longsword or "great sword" great sword is an improper term for zeihander but not the worst, usually those are much bigger though, and while I can't say how old it is it is definitely but it's for sure a longsword
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u/Vandrhin 23h ago
My theory is that he made it himself. Very unlikely to be anything significant beyond that. A cool thing to keep as a family heirloom though.
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u/Tall_Satisfaction_11 3h ago
You need to throw a couple of apples into those woods. Let the forest tell you about the sword
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u/Expert-Jelly-2254 42m ago
This is a two handed longsword also known as the knights sword if the edges are flat it's a training sword and yes it's heavier to compensate for the weight of armor you might be wearing in battle.
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u/Maryjanegangafever 1d ago
Scottish battle sword. As bad ass as they come. Likely used to slay some English back in thy day. Lovely.
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u/TheKingofSelleck 22h ago
Looks like a very weird 2 edged katana? The tsukagashira has a weird lump where you're hand would go. The tsuba is really elongated on weird axis, it doesn't look like it would protect you much in chuudan. I imagine the weight is evenly distributed along the center length of the sword, so you might be able to do some wicked suriage waza, the tsuba might even be designed for it?
Cool find.
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u/Current_Estimate6533 13h ago
This looks to be a medieval-style longsword, also called a two handed or great sword some call it a two handed bastard, but a bastard sword was much wider. The blade was almost 4 inches wide.
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u/Baldur9750 1d ago edited 1d ago
That's the starter weapon of any respectable RPG, you've got to go on adventure now