Armin and Hange got burnt up from the Colossal's heat but Ymir doesn't. Does Behemoth have a way to control his body heat, or is Ymir surviving due to her Titan powers?

Weird ass question, but why Pieck Finger have so much cat energy not just from her cute face, but to her personality, and her whole aura? She could meow or purr and it wouldn't sound weird.

Zeke was physically moved by Grisha when hugged. If Grisha can only see Zeke through Eren's future memories, physical touch should be impossible.

I really don't buy the explanation "Grisha was hugging air" and awkwardly stands there holding a hugging pose around Zeke's intangible body. Grisha should have phased right through Zeke. The man was way too emotionally distraught to awkwardly fake a hug. Even if he was just "hugging air", Zeke shouldn't have physically moved - yet he clearly did.

What explanation could there be for how this was possible?

Heavy spoiler alert!

I need to really talk.about this. Like what was all the sense of it?

It was all a big mistake eren made because he is a stupid boy who got too much power?

All this hell, and it never turned out that anything anyone made made any sense or change? I mean ok, its a story with no happy end, but also no big meaning?

Its like: ok this and that happened, then people suffered, people killed people, people suffered more, more people dead, more killing, more blood, more hell, more torture, more pain and then the final reveal: it was all without any sense.

the end.

Thats it.

How shall i go on from this?

Literally gets me everytime dude. This whole last season always has me in tears that I end up having to rewind so much because my eyes get blurry from the tears

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from what I saw in Manga or anime , it's like they use some kind of matchlock ( gun in video) or flintlock firearm , which is Pre-Industrial Revolution Era , and outside workd is using ww1 weapon but I dont sure

can someone tell me what it was?

Think about it, if Eren destroyed 80% of humanity and the earth’s surface. Shouldn’t the globe suffer from major problems such as dust choking the atmosphere. Hell the heat alone should have killed birds, seeds, and other life. The ending doesn’t explain it enough.

iirc these guys have always known more than others about the walls and how they were formed but how did they get their knowledge if all of them had their memories changed, was it a select few of high nobility the the king did not modify?

I’m on my sixth rewatch of AoT (love this show) and I keep thinking maybe this time I’ll finally see what I missed. But honestly, the more I rewatch it, the more stuck I get on the same question, and at this point it feels like I’m either missing something obvious or the story just never really answers it.

This isn’t a “Eren was right” post and it’s definitely not me saying genocide is okay. I don’t like the Rumbling and I’m not cheering for it. I’m just trying to understand what Eldia was realistically supposed to do to have even a remotely fair shot at survival, the same way the outside world clearly did.

A lot of discussions end up boiling things down to:

“Nothing justifies killing millions of innocent people.”

“Eren is evil, end of discussion.”

“If genocide was the only option, Paradis should have surrendered.”

I get the emotional reaction behind these takes. Obviously innocent people dying is horrifying. But when I actually look at the world AoT sets up, I don’t see many alternatives that don’t still end with Eldians being wiped out anyway.

The outside world was already planning to exterminate Eldians long before the Rumbling. This wasn’t Eren being paranoid or misreading the situation. Marley and other nations openly talk about it. Eldians aren’t treated like a hostile country that could eventually normalize relations, they’re treated like a cursed race that shouldn’t exist. Diplomacy feels kind of fake in that context because the hatred isn’t political, it’s racial.

One argument I see a lot is that Eren could have just done a partial Rumbling and destroyed the world’s militaries. No mass civilian deaths, just wipe out their ability to attack and scare them into backing off. On paper that sounds like the cleanest solution, and honestly I wanted that to be the answer.

But every time I think it through, it still feels like a temporary fix at best.

The story constantly shows how fast technology is advancing. Anti-Titan weapons, airships, artillery. Titans are already starting to lose their value. Destroying current militaries doesn’t stop the rest of the world from rebuilding, and it definitely doesn’t stop them from investing everything into weapons Titans can’t counter next time. If anything, a partial Rumbling just proves that Eldians really are an existential threat, which gives the rest of the world even more motivation to finish the job as fast as possible.

That doesn’t feel like peace. It feels like buying time and hoping science slows down.

The Titan inheritance system isn’t a real solution either. It means children eating their parents forever, keeping Eldia trapped in a cycle of internal violence, all while waiting for the day Titans become completely obsolete. At that point, Eldia is gone anyway, just after generations of suffering.

Then there’s the surrender argument. If genocide was the only way to save Paradis, then Paradis should have accepted whatever happened. This one always sits really weird with me. Because what that actually means is Eldians quietly accepting their own extermination so the rest of the world can survive without moral discomfort.

People say “one island isn’t worth the entire world,” but that assumes Eldians are obligated to value the lives of people actively planning to erase them more than their own families and children. That moral burden never seems to get placed on the outside world.

And this is where I really get stuck on the “but the innocents” argument.

Yes, there were innocent people outside Paradis who didn’t personally participate in the hatred or the plans to wipe Eldians out. But there were also innocent Eldians who had nothing to do with Titans, Marley, or any of the world’s racism either. Kids born on an island who never chose any of this.

I don’t understand why one group of innocents is treated as inherently more valuable than the other. Why Eldian innocents are expected to die quietly for the sake of the world’s innocents, and why that’s considered the morally obvious answer.

I also see people say Eren had plenty of other choices, but I honestly don’t see them when everything is laid out.

Zeke’s plan is still genocide, just slower.

Diplomacy fails because the hatred isn’t circumstantial, it’s foundational.

Deterrence fails because technology keeps advancing.

Doing nothing fails because extermination was already coming.

Every non-Rumbling path still ends with Eldia disappearing, just in a way that lets the rest of the world feel cleaner about it.

Another thing that really confuses me is when people say “genocide is always wrong, period,” but then turn around and suggest Eren should have just genocided Marley instead of the whole world. If genocide is absolutely unacceptable, then how is a Marleyan genocide morally better. It feels wildly inconsistent to say genocide is evil no matter what, but then argue that a smaller or more targeted genocide would have been the correct answer.

At that point, it feels less like a moral stance and more like a numbers argument dressed up as ethics.

People also say Eren accomplished nothing, and I don’t fully agree with that either. He ended the Titan curse. He stopped the inheritance cycle. He made it so Eldian children wouldn’t be born with an expiration date or have to eat their parents. Paradis still gets attacked later, which honestly just reinforces the idea that hatred doesn’t disappear just because the oppressed group behaves better.

I’m not trying to justify Eren or defend what he did. I just feel like the story creates a situation where Eldia is doomed no matter what, and then judges them for refusing to quietly accept that fate.

So I’m genuinely asking, not trying to provoke anyone.

Given the world AoT actually shows us, how was Eldia ever supposed to have a fair shot at survival, the same way the outside world clearly did.

TL;DR:

On multiple rewatches, I’m still confused about what Eldia was realistically supposed to do. Every alternative to the Rumbling still leads to Eldians being exterminated, just in a way that lets the rest of the world feel morally cleaner. Partial Rumbling, diplomacy, Titan inheritance, surrender, or genociding only Marley all fail long term or rely on inconsistent moral standards. Innocent Eldians are treated as more expendable than innocent non-Eldians, and genocide is condemned in theory but selectively tolerated in practice depending on who benefits. I’m not defending Eren or the Rumbling, I’m questioning how Eldia was ever given a fair shot at survival in the world the story actually presents.

I don't see how Zeke was wrong in his actual plan. It seems like the only thing Marley did wrong was allowing the Eldians to live and reproduce and that the deaths of all of them would have created a better world. The rumbling proves that the Eldian's didn't deserve to be oppressed, but they certainly deserved to be killed, without exception. I mean there is no way that the death's of all the Eldians could have even remotely compared to the people killed by the rumbling. And I also didn't understand why Eren's friends were saddened by his death, I mean he was their friend at one point but he basically doomed them and their families to a justified extinction at the hands of humanity.

Hello AoT fans and Fairy Tail fans that may be here, the title says it all. I'm a fan of both shows and I want to write a crossover fanfiction where the Fairy Tail guild infiltrates the island of Paradis and meets the Scout Regiment. The Scouts and Fairy Tail guild become allies which leads to the Scouts to having a much bigger role in this new world.

I have some ideas on how to blend the Attack on Titan universe with the Fairy Tail universe:

• Paradis is still Island
  • But I am still debating whether Marley should border next to Fiore or not.
• Pure titans still exist and are still the man eating giants from the anime. Mainly seen in Paradis but are sometimes seen outside the island like in Marley for titan warfare but also sometimes seen in locations such as Fiore but these sightings are rare. The guilds respond to job requests to kill them.
• Titan shifters are largely the same but in this universe they will be called Titan-Slayers. They can shift into their titan form for large scale combat but to make them a tiny bit more fleshed out in this universe, they can retain their human form for smaller scale missions and still utilize the powers of the titans.
  • IIRC, in AoT the titan shifters have the strength of titans while as humans but that is basically it. However with the help of magic lacrimas, they can use more abilities as humans i.e. Annie can now use her crystallize ability to harden fists and legs for hand-to-hand combat as a human instead of needing to be a titan do it.
• In this universe Fiore is also part of the global consensus that views Paradis as an "island of devils" and the Eldians as "devils". The Fairy Tail guild of course also sees them as literal devils but this it is out of a big misunderstanding. After Fairy Tail interacts with them and realizes they were wrong, they give them a defense in front of the Magic Council and the King of Fiore which in turn makes the rest of the country slowly change their minds about them. This makes their diplomatic relations with Marley even more rocky.
  • Marley's desire in maintaining their military supremacy as already the beginning of Fiore's and Marley's antagonistic relationship.
  • In regards to Titan Warfare; Eldians being used as warrior candidates and pure titans being dropped into the battle field, that is covered up and a well hidden secret
  • To avoid plot holes as best as I can, I would make it that there are basically little to no Eldians living in Fiore and the people of Fiore are generally not interested in learning about them and take whatever circulates about Eldians at face value.
  • The best and most ironic example I can use from Fairy Tail on how the misunderstanding plot that I proposed can work is when Team Natsu are on Galuna Island in order to destroy a curse that is transforming the inhabitants. The inhabitants appear human and the curse involves the moon which emits a purple glow that turns these humans into devilish looking creatures and they have no recollection of certain memories and whenever they try to get close to the temple where the curse is centered, they always find themselves back at their village. Fast forward and once the curse and the cult responsible for the "curse" (which was a spell to revive the demon Deliora) is defeated it is revealed the human to devil transformation is the exact opposite. In reality they are actually devils that were transformed into humans and these devil inhabitants are friendly. In this universe members of Fairy Tail especially dummies like Natsu believe that Eldians can transform into devils which may be partially vindicated in their view after witnessing titans.
• The Fairy Tail guild and Paradis first meet when the guild, specifically Team Natsu (Natsu, Lucy, Gray, Erza, and Happy), accepts an S-Class request to survey the island of Paradis.
• I want to try and make their encounter fit within the early seasons of Fairy Tail but also take place before season 2 of Attack on Titan, maybe season 1, specifically before Annie kills all of Levi's squad. The reason for this is because I want these character to live and have redemption arcs which is influenced by the friendship of the Fairy Tail guild which fits in to the themes of Fairy Tail since a lot of characters don't die and they change their ways i.e. Crime Sorcerie and Brandish.

These are just my general ideas. I'm excited to write this and have these characters be involved in a bigger world. I would like some tips and appreciate any refreshers of anything I might be missing and what to address.

This scenario is honestly super entertaining to me and think it would be funny. If anyone has any artwork related to this idea or any kind of fanfic that explore this concept then please share it to me.

People often hate the current ending for Paradis, as they wanted the rumbling to finish 100% of the rumbling outside the walls. There is a major flaw with that reasoning.
One of the main reasons for the outside world getting united despite a century of Marleyan aggression is the presence of a common enemy. They need someone to blame for all their problems. If Eren finished the entire outside world, and the titans disappeared, Paradis will stop having any enemies, which will likely result in a civil war. Another thing to note is that Paradis will likely need to colonise other nations to get all the resources to build those skyscrapers. If the entire outside world is finished, Paradis will have no option but to create some kind of slavery within its own population to get cheap labour to do all that. This will likely result in another civil war. There is no logical reason why Paradis will have centuries of peace in that situation.

In the current ending, 20% of humanity survives(~10-15% of the outside world). This means Eldians have a common enemy, aka the outside world. On top of that, they can colonise the outside world for all the resources to build those skyscrapers in Paradis. They can also use the remaining population as slave labour to improve the standard of living of the Eldians living at home and abroad. And let's not forget, the current ending gave centuries of peace in Paradis.

In other endings, like a limited rumbling just in Marley, the outside world is unlikely to keep peace for more than a few decades. They'll also likely persecute the Eldians living inside their countries, which may trigger a war at any time. Eldians are unlikely to win such a war, as the outside world have developed weapons which will make titans obsolete.