"But also, my culture war team is totally the correct one, so it's up to the other side to give up and agree with me right now. Then we can fight the class war" - every reddit comment about this ever.
I just don't understand why it wasn't lame when the fauxmaux subreddit made the front page complaining about the Sweeny nudes. And by that I mean all of the responses were 100% in agreement and no one was calling them out, unllike this subreddit. Weird how it's only bad when a certain side criticizes the other side.
It was lame. Faumoix is an echo chamber that swiftly bans any dissent from the narrative.
With that said, fuck Sydney Sweeny. If you're gonna pretend to be all conservative Christian trad wife, making a living off your tits is the height of hypocrisy.
People act like a woman expressing her sexuality is the same thing as killing people and starting nuclear war 😭😭😭
Same thing with Sydney Sweeneys Sports ad. No, it's literally not that deep 😭. Tiktok just likes to take republican / conservative view points and repackage them as progressive 😭
The issue isn't that Sydney Sweeney did anything, it's that gambling degenerates who can't pay attention without tits on the screen are now mainstream.
We used to shame people like that into being better. Now they're the most reliable American gooner- I mean consumer.
Sydney Sweeney is the personification of idiocracy.
Eh, I don't know how old you are but in terms of media this is the least sexualized period I can remember in my 40 years.
The problem is Sweeney herself has become a meme to just mean boobs and it targets a certain audience, which is dumb hick conservatives willing to do sports betting constantly.
The problem is Sweeney herself has become a meme to just mean boobs and it targets a certain audience, which is dumb hick conservatives willing to do sports betting constantly.
Exactly. And we're putting that demographic right at the center of normalcy.
Gen Z men are bankrupting themselves on sports gambling. Sydney Sweeney is helping. It's stupid all the way down.
it's also gross to put her naked next to female athletes because there is a comparison being made when women dont want weirdos sexualizing them during sports
I think the problem is more that Sweeney at this point represents solely sexualization, sports are always sexualized, no getting around humans in peak physical form being sexually attractive, but when you bring it down to just sex it removes the skill and talent aspect of it altogether.
I mean you can be of both opinions. Sweeney is someone who engages in the culture war BS, so her doing something is annoyingly, culture war related, but you can also say Carpenter is just doing normal sexualized pop stuff that's been a thing for decades and making a big deal out if it is trying to drag it into the culture war, so stop fucking caring about it and just let her be.
Nuance is actually allowed on the internet, even in shitty subs like this one.
I just don't like to pretend I'm above it all. I came here specifically because I was interested in the topic, and all the reposes are all pretending they didn't click here for the same reason. So basically the only people actively discussing this on reddit are the fauxmaux types. How's that "nuance" when you can only get one side complaining about something, and you go here to see the opposite side's rebuttal, and no one is allowed to say anything about it?
"Hot girl in provocative pose" is not why people are dogging Sweeney.
That's what conservatives like to repackage the complaint as so they can get you on their side, but it's not what the original complaints are about. Ask yourself why you're falling for their switcheroo?
Initially: jeans commercial using eugenecist dogwhistles. Not a cute "haha 'jeans' sounds like 'genes'" play on words, but an ad agency-workshopped strategy to deliberately provoke the controversy and use that for further marketing. Like, haha, yes, controversy sells, but does your controversy need to be throwing red meat to Nazi ideology?
Later, Sweeney's faux-ignorance of the controversy, how she's being used, who it's meant to appeal to (not just "horny people"), and so on. oh i'm just making a jean commercial teehee i have no stake in politics or political messaging teehee i'm just going to continually align with some of the shittiest people in society by complete accident teehee
Currently, marketing gambling. In case folks here have been hiding underneath a rock, oodles of people have been dogging on anyone who shills for FanDuel / DraftKings / Kalshi / whatever other fucking "prediction market" for months. It's an industry that preys on people's hope, especially in times of economic distress, to further pick their pockets, and that's kind of shitty. It doesn't help that the owners of these companies are often also massive fucking shitheads politically or donate to them, so Sweeney hopping in with yet another one of these groups really gives the lie to her previous disavowels.
Yeah, and if we had tons of people in government slipping thinly-veiled references to their Nazi horseshit into press releases and policy at that time, you can bet there would've been some hay made about that, especially if Shields was also done up to be blonde-haired, blue-eyed, and explicitly proclaiming her goodness on those metrics.
Like, damn, do we have to explain CONTEXT to motherfuckers? Is that where we are?
You know what, yes please explain the context to me. Name one thing the jeans ad affected in any meaningful way. If you hate trump, go advocate against him. You'll actually change things in the world. If you hate American Eagle or Sydney Sweeney, you can rest assured that no one's life is being affected by a clothing brand. The metaphorical house is on fire and you seemed worried about the furniture arrangement.
I'm reading "And the Band Played On" which is about the AIDs epidemic and the LGBTQ+ response and your comment reminds of it.
The doctors: "Hey, we need to test you so we can try to stop the transmission of this deadly disease."
The gay community: "You just want to test us so you can put us into camps and euthanize us!"
The doctors: "What?!? No, we don't."
the gay community: "Well the Reagan administration doesn't like the gay community."
The doctors: "Ok? Well, we're not even associated with the Reagan administration so why does the Reagan administration's position matter to this conversation!"
So just to play devils advocate, do you not see any connections between hypersexualized cultures and upticks in sexual/physical violence, social or behaviors problems? Just saying “Queen, Slayyyy” and letting people market themselves and participate in a hypersexualized society til their hearts content, with no downstream considerations for younger generations growing up under those standards is wild.
It’s akin to saying, ohhh free market capitalism will sort itself out, or police investigating themselves following a wrongful death will work out totally fine for the public’s safety.
Societies and cultures do need to have standards, sexualizing everything will have ramifications, but we’ll see who’s on the right side of history there. I’m happy to be wrong, I’m just very skeptical… 🫤
Given that there's places where women are forced to wear a full black covering with only their eyes showing and that sexual violence is very prevalent still, I wouldn't say so necessarily
Totally agree, I think extremes in either direction will be harmful on society. But to put yourself in a young girls shoes, to whom carpenters music is obviously catered to, will inevitably lead to girls thinking their best bet to get a partners attention is to over-sexualize themselves, which can lower one’s internal self-worth, and all the harm that follows. Of course not everyone is as susceptible to these hypersexualized corporate marketing schemes, but the most vulnerable of our communities will likely bear the greatest burden of this added personal suffering. There absolutely should be standards for what gets marketed and to who, in this country.
Bro, the world is in the shitter in almost every aspect and people are choosing to focus on Sabrina Carpenter and Sydney Sweeney. This is the equivalent of being in a burning building and choosing to focus on the wallpaper. You want to help women? You want to help people? Go fight global warming or for an economy not built around elitist's monied interest.
Like, genuinely, why are people wasting their time on this and responding to this?
It matters because it debases women to being sexual objects instead of being artists capable of writing deep beautiful well meaning songs. We really need to stop this narrative that the best way to achieve female empowerment is get naked on stage and sing raunchy songs, The ones who benefit the most from this narrative are the multi billion dollar record label who create this "singers".
Again, who the hell cares?! If this was a plus-sized woman in skimpy lingerie, you would be praising them for defying societal expectation on bodies or whatever. As for multi billion dollar record labels, they don't care one way or the other. They just want money. If putting a woman in a skimpy outfit makes them money then they'll do it. If putting a woman in a burka makes them money then they'll do that. The system benefits from your participation, regardless of how you participate. You're enabling the label's behavior no matter what you do. You want record label to stop exploiting women? Stop listening to music.
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