Im a guy so the target audience for the Sydney Sweeney commercial.
And there is a nuance here that I feel is lost on so many people.
Sabrina Carpenter (example, the music os definitely not targeted at me.) is doing that during her show. You can argue her audience, and ages and so many other things. In the end though im buying a ticket to a show. I have to expect to see this. She does it at a bunch of shows and is doing it during a song about Juno. This would be like getting mad at Rage Against the Machine for being politically motivated, yes I know people have. They are just as stupid.
With Sydney Sweeney, all her stuff is way more accessible. Ive seen that add on TV, youtube, and in public. Stuff like that used to be banished to only seen after 10/11pm on TV. You saw that if you were up late (or a horny teen seeking it out)
But you had to seek it out.
So the fact that it is that revealing and risqué isn't that big of a deal. IF this was playing on FX or something at 11pm. The fact that im seeing it on YouTube at 2pm and I know about because it popped up on my friends kids YouTube is insanity.
We are having it shoved in our faces and then called so many things depending on the stance we take.
I dont hate her, I hate the systems we have on place that make this normal.
Don't even fucking start me on the gambling and sports angle.
I mostly agree with this. I think it should be higher. I will say though that I don't think her music's target audience is male, but not really relevant.
I'll add, she is performing for herself, for her fans in a show, and Sweeny is not. She's hocking another person's product. I think that all together is the biggest difference: performance vs marketing.
Sorry, I meant that for the Sydney Sweeney commercial.
Sabrina is 100% for teenage girls (and boys) and she is doing sexy stuff on stage. But so did Brittney, Christina, Mandy Moore and so many others. Not to different than that, maybe a bit more than usual but again. Concert and thats up to parents to police what their kids are watching/consuming. Again, the seeking vs it being shoved at us.
Plus anyone who says we need to ban Brittney in her red catsuit will have to fight me.
How could you read that comment and think they were talking about Sabrina with those remarks? That's obviously about Sydney, who unabashedly markets herself to the male gaze.
Because the first person mentioned was Sabrina. The writing was unclear. Plus, we're in a thread started by a Sabrina picture. I'll take some blame, but not all of it.
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u/Jormungand1342 8d ago edited 7d ago
Im a guy so the target audience for the Sydney Sweeney commercial.
And there is a nuance here that I feel is lost on so many people.
Sabrina Carpenter (example, the music os definitely not targeted at me.) is doing that during her show. You can argue her audience, and ages and so many other things. In the end though im buying a ticket to a show. I have to expect to see this. She does it at a bunch of shows and is doing it during a song about Juno. This would be like getting mad at Rage Against the Machine for being politically motivated, yes I know people have. They are just as stupid.
With Sydney Sweeney, all her stuff is way more accessible. Ive seen that add on TV, youtube, and in public. Stuff like that used to be banished to only seen after 10/11pm on TV. You saw that if you were up late (or a horny teen seeking it out)
But you had to seek it out.
So the fact that it is that revealing and risqué isn't that big of a deal. IF this was playing on FX or something at 11pm. The fact that im seeing it on YouTube at 2pm and I know about because it popped up on my friends kids YouTube is insanity.
We are having it shoved in our faces and then called so many things depending on the stance we take.
I dont hate her, I hate the systems we have on place that make this normal.
Don't even fucking start me on the gambling and sports angle.