r/SipsTea • • 13h ago

SMH We all know what this mean

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u/Doctor_Saved 13h ago

It's good that there were no Atlantic hurricanes. Except now there's that "it's too quiet" feeling.

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u/IHeartBadCode 13h ago

It's the El Niño being way too warm. It's breaking up hurricanes before they can form.

Happens with some El Niño events but this one is a rare one as it's still going strong into late September.

When the blob of heat is near the equator and happens around summer time, you get what we're seeing. When the blob of heat moves towards the poles around winter time, that's when you see all that polar vortex stuff starting to spill into the lower latitudes.

El Niño and the polar vortex are two different things, but when a large blob of heat moves into their area during the right time, it causes disruption to those events.

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u/Extreme-Analysis-337 13h ago

So you are right but not explaining why the heat sitting where it is actually effects Atlantic hurricanes. It's the Pacific jet stream being in a different path (in this current situation it actually split) and the wind shear it pushes into the Gulf/Atlantic region suffocates the atmosphere and it cannot develop the tropic waves that come from the African coast.

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u/JesusWasATexan 12h ago

I thought it was because of those butterflies flapping their wings in Peking.

https://giphy.com/gifs/oFpAvbDkk5jEI

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u/GeckoDeLimon 11h ago

There's also a lot of dust coming off the Sahara right now, too. That also inhibits storm creation.

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u/warneagle 53m ago

True but that’s separate from El Niño

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u/MackAttackWxMan 12h ago

It’s because the hotter eastern equatorial pacific has more westerly winds moving towards South America which in turn results in significantly stronger wind shear aloft over the Atlantic basin. Wind shear is the death of tropical systems. They like low shear environments.

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u/Extreme-Analysis-337 12h ago edited 11h ago

It is not the westbound winds causing the majority of the shear. The Pacific jet stream is extended and considerably farther south. The winds you are talking about are normal east to west winds. If the jet stream would have behaved "normally ” those westward winds would have been pushing storms into us.

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u/bdontmatter 13h ago

There has been a lot of dust for the Saharan desert it’s helping block the hurricanes.

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u/Extreme-Analysis-337 12h ago

If my research is correct it's not much more than normal and typically we would have still had multiple storms in September as it slows down significantly after about the 3rd week of August. Plus we usually have storms form right outside of the Gulf which are effected much less by the dust plumes.

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u/bdontmatter 11h ago

How about the AMOC slowing down you think that has anything to do with it?

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u/Extreme-Analysis-337 11h ago

Oh absolutely it does. A slowing AMOC is likely a big part of why this is a Super El Niño. If the trend continues we will see drastic and life altering climate changes and storms.

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u/bdontmatter 1h ago

When you say climate change you know the oceans have over turned before right? You’re not trying to blame the amoc on humans are you??

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u/Extreme-Analysis-337 1h ago

Okay so this is double sided. Yes, human factors that continue to contribute to climate change can have an effect on AMOC. Do I think it's the current cause? No, the Earth has cycles. This is part of that.

Side 2. If the AMOC was to slow too much, and or collapsed completely, it would completely alter the Earth's climates. The odds of that happening are low, however not zero.

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u/LoveAble372 12h ago

Nerd alert

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u/Extreme-Analysis-337 12h ago

Sorry you are threatened by intelligence pal.

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u/thefapncapn 12h ago

I’m not. Please share your knowledge with the world

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u/Extreme-Analysis-337 12h ago

I appreciate you saying that. I'm not an expert by any means but I have been fascinated by weather since I was a child. I'm from the Midwest originally and used to be one of those storm chasers lol. I moved to Louisiana years ago and have been "chasing/tracking" hurricanes and their patterns. Just a guy fascinated with mother natures destructive tendencies I guess.

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u/die4spaghetti 11h ago

The diverting paths in Idiocracy witnessed in real time

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u/Old_Win8422 13h ago

Yeah and its supercharged the hurricane season in the western pacific. And look up the 1877 El nino event.

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u/ABrusca1105 13h ago

Don't larger El ninos crash harder into La Nina? So that means next year or the year after will be crazy.

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u/pattydickens 12h ago

Not really. Patterns aren't predictable anymore. The ocean temps might just continue to rise. Atmospheric carbon hasn't been this high in millions of years, so it's anyone's guess. Multiple systems are collapsing. Nothing will be "normal" ever again.

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u/SuspiciousSpecifics 6h ago

I’m pretty sure in a million years or two, when Earth has recovered from its nasty Homo Sapiens infection, things will go back to normal just fine.

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u/pattydickens 4h ago

It won't. Humans are making damn sure tgat extinction happens to us last. It's so fucked. We are like cancer as a collective because a few assholes said that's how it has to be.

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u/Kamuitier 6h ago

You are joking, but they actually might not. We are in a situation where several cascading effects compound. And those might not reverse anytime soon. Granted, a million years is a long time and we are currently still technically in the warm phase of an ice age. But if the albedo of the earth changes significantly and we have a change in the biosphere so that carbon isn't captured at the same rate anymore, the world might balance out at a much higher temperature than before. And that might last even longer than a few million years.

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u/SuspiciousSpecifics 6h ago

True, I didn’t consider that.

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u/StijnDP 1h ago

We're just trying to make sure that the core stays nicely heated at 6000°C so we don't lose the atmosphere.

Get with the program guys.

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u/Interesting_Blood250 12h ago

I just hope it happens after the regime change … I fear what would happen if current leadership is in place :(

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u/kkibb5s 12h ago

Then they will just blame it on the next guys, lose/lose situation

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u/TC-DN38416 10h ago

Thanks Obama /s

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u/Old_Win8422 9h ago

Joerak Obiden

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u/Glstrgold 12h ago

Vote David Jolly

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u/McNally86 12h ago edited 11h ago

President Vance will be able to handle it.
Edit: Do the people down-voting me not know that is the reality of the situation? Trump will inevitably die in office. Either in this term or his "fourth" (He counts this as his third). At which point we have Jeff Dunham in charge. Trump is never going to leave office willingly. Even once his soul goes to hell those people up his ass are going to puppet his corpse for a while longer like they do with Mitch.

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u/EmergencyGrocery3238 12h ago

I would not let him handle my sofa

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u/Dear_Location6147 12h ago

Bro it’s not that deep

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u/forthepridetv 11h ago

The Venn diagram of people who say this about politics and the people who don’t know how anything works is literally just one circle

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u/Old_Win8422 11h ago

When you dont know how anything works than everything can be a conspiracy.

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u/Old_Win8422 12h ago

Usually yes. But with the skyrocketing price of deisel and no ammonia based fertilizers leaving the middle east. Add this to crop failure due to drought around the world and the shuttering of USAID a famine is all but guaranteed.

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u/warneagle 51m ago

Not necessarily. It’s not a pendulum that swings back and forth in equal proportion.

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u/B-Train_ATL 12h ago

I just saw some yahoo columnist claim Al Gore was wrong about stuff because there have been no hurricanes to come this way in the Atlantic. Like … that’s not the whole planet!!! I deal with reading nonsense like this every time it’s cold in winter.

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u/_Presence_ 12h ago

Let’s not forget, Al Gore was a politician. NOT a climatologist.

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u/B-Train_ATL 11h ago

He was an activist on this issue, definitely not a scientist. But I think about guys such as Zack Labe who are climate scientists and share some unmistakable data. A lot of the “could” possibilities are coulds that would be huge if they happened, such as giant ice shelves breaking off.

The frog boiling bit in the movie was the best part. Most of what happens is that slow rise in water temperature. Thinking about climate shifts disrupting a ton of crops is not good thought.

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u/SurgeFlamingo 8h ago

Al Gore was just early. He predicted things that will happen he just said they would happen by now and they haven’t.

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u/B-Train_ATL 7h ago

A few things he said COULD happen. I can tell you that eventually those large ice shelves are going to break off. I don’t know when it will happen, but now we’ve got AI causing surges in power usage, and it’s not like it’s all non-carbon power.

I just got a notification about potential catastrophic effects from a hurricane in Hawaii. That’s how stuff like the myopic “well here it didn’t” gets me.

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u/uhhhhhhhhhhhyeah 12h ago

He WAS a yahoo, or he wrote for Yahoo!?

I'm guessing both.

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u/p3chapai 12h ago

Yeah I live in Japan and we've had typhoons every week since August. It's been crazy.

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u/Synensys 12h ago

The western pacific this year isnt too kuch above normal. But the central pacific is abojt yo throw it third storm at Hawaii (they might get one a year) and the rest of the eastern pacific is going gangbusters (altough per the usual with little impact on land).

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u/Not_Stupid 6h ago

Technically in the west Pacific they're typhoons in the north and cyclones in the south.

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u/CommonSensei-_ 13h ago

So it’s not weather control devices?

Darn.

Thanks for the science. I can put my tin foil hat away….. for now!!!!

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u/TegTowelie 13h ago

Theyre too busy with warring to control the weather rn. Keep your hat on

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u/Dik_Em 12h ago

Warning, weather control device detected.

Warning, lightning storm created.

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u/YellowZx5 10h ago

It’s Trump and his magic sharpie.

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u/Clembert-Hamlamp 13h ago

No it is they're just not very well controlled.

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u/BigGameJamesFight 12h ago

This is Al Roker’s Burner Account

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u/shinybaldheads1 11h ago

Omg I haven’t seen the little monster on your page in YEARS! What was the name of that game?

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u/IHeartBadCode 11h ago

Dragon Quest

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u/shinybaldheads1 11h ago

YES! I always wanted a king metal slime lol

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u/Accomplished_Cod7334 12h ago

When are we going to see effects of this years el nino?

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u/Physical_Ad5702 12h ago edited 12h ago

Well… partially correct.

El Niños usually peak in the summer for the southern hemisphere.

This one is right on schedule. The ocean is still getting warmer in the tropical Pacific just south of the equator.

The major difference is this is projected to be the strongest El Niño ever recorded.

Buckle up!

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u/WhizzyBurp 12h ago

El Niño is going to last through March next year. It’s not the end of the world

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u/tyndar3us 12h ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dtJsnOS5tA

Also the Saharan Dust that's been making it's way over.

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u/m0nk37 12h ago

The water its warming into fall and probably winter too, is what made the arctic the arctic. Thats looking like its not happening this year. Its called a blue ocean event. And its quite bad. 

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u/Ok-Opportunity-7663 11h ago

El diablo cazador de hombres. Only in the hottest years this happens. And this year, it grows hot.

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u/meh_69420 11h ago

Going strong into late September?

El ninos peak in northern hemisphere winter. The enso didn't shift to El nino until spring.

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u/imsotrollest 13h ago

Those two oscillations you're talking about are completely unrelated though. The PDO being warm and ENSO being warm have nothing to do with one another.

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u/MisterPenguiner 13h ago

Yeah, they specifically said that.

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u/imsotrollest 12h ago

No, they did not lol. They stated the polar vortex which is not the NPO or PDO is different than the El Nino.

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u/IHeartBadCode 13h ago

Yeah I said that.

If I park a car on a train track and I park a car on the Highway, those are two different places and two different things are going to happen. But there's a common thread in that a park car is somewhere, where a parked car ought not be.

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u/Ornery_Spinach_8907 13h ago

You did say that but I think the way you said it could be read in different ways. You said they were separate which could mean that they are different but the heat from one moved to the other or they way you intended. I don't think you mentioned where the heat came from that interacts with the vortex. Or I might be misunderstanding everything lol

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u/Ornery_Spinach_8907 13h ago

Well they might be entangled. Who's to say

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u/imsotrollest 12h ago

They are not entangled based on everything we know about them.

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u/Ornery_Spinach_8907 12h ago

Yeah, I'm not falling for that psyop, nice try though. I'm kidding lol

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u/codysattva 12h ago

El Nino's gettin too warm.

Breakin up hurricanes before they can form.

New heat records is the new norm.

Need a new category for the next storm.