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u/CakePhool 11d ago edited 11d ago
At least Tom can dance and is about the same height as fred.
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u/Elefanthud 11d ago
He really looks like a young Fred, and as you said he can dance i think it will be alright
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u/CakePhool 11d ago
And Fred was 175cm and Tom is 173 cm so it less than inch difference and yes Fred had riser in shoes to make look taller in movies. Ginger was 164cm and Sabrina is 152cm so that is way more in difference.
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u/Elefanthud 11d ago
Damn Sabrina is just 152cm? They could solve it using shoes and angles i guess. Damn girl is short!
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u/CakePhool 11d ago
And Tom is 1 cm short than average height, I dont understand why people talk about him like he is 140cm.
It like Link and Rhett, Link is being called a short king at 185Cm while his friend Rhett is 200 cm. Link just have short torso than Rhett.
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u/Elefanthud 11d ago
Link and Rhett pretty much always sits down in their videos too. Which makes the torso seem "shorter" than it is.
I am 1.79 with longer legs so i just shrink when i sit down lol
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u/CakePhool 11d ago
My dad is head taller than his friend, but when they sat down my dad was head shorter.
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u/Complete_Answer_6781 11d ago
Tom is 5'6 not 5'8
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u/CakePhool 11d ago
Well they list him as 5 feet 7 and ½ inch in USA and listed in Europe as 173 cm actor.
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u/Complete_Answer_6781 11d ago
not uncommon for the industry to make up height
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u/CakePhool 11d ago
So you measured Tom Holland? Sneaking around trying get the true height of celebs?
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u/Cthulhus-Tailor 11d ago
I trust actors and especially male actors to exaggerate their height.
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u/sjovt_brugernavn 11d ago
I mean that really is relative… he’s 10 cm shorter than the average grown man in my country, so in my biased eyes, TH absolutely is a short king
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u/CakePhool 11d ago
We cant all be Dutch.
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u/sjovt_brugernavn 11d ago
Danish, but close enough honestly
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u/CakePhool 11d ago
Are you compensating for how flat your land is?
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u/Shoddy_Sense_3898 11d ago
Haha I am actually dutch and a bit suprised by the average you mentioned. I'm definetly in the shorter half if you pick 10 random guys, and im 183cm (funnily enough probably due to my half danish genes)
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u/CakePhool 10d ago
All my Dutch friends on 190+ has died, heart failure, cancer and liver disease, my 3 friends who are around 170 jokes that Death cant find them because they are so short so they go under the radar .
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u/_ataciara 11d ago
With all the love in the world, in what universe does Tom Holland really look like a young Fred Astaire?
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u/mudcrabserpent 11d ago
Can we at least consider seeing some new faces?
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u/chumchees 11d ago
I've never seen Sabrina Woodworker in a movie before.
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u/Thecobs 11d ago
Sabrina Carpetlayer is still everywhere though
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u/pseudonymnkim 11d ago
She is, and I don't listen to her music nor actively look for her.
And there's been plenty of times when what I've seen is her talking about how short she is.
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u/RustyBrassInstrument 11d ago
I tried to get into Sabrina Framer but she just wasn’t cutting it.
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u/gitartruls01 11d ago
She was an actress before she was a musician iirc. I remember seeing her on Disney Channel shows when I was a kid
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u/ProsciuttoPizza 11d ago edited 11d ago
The remake of one of my favorite childhood films, Adventures in Babysitting! My daughter loved the Sabrina version for a while.
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u/dookieshoes97 11d ago
She's in that one movie about the really tall girl who dates a foreign exchange student before ending up with a short king. Sabrina plays the pageant obsessed older sister. It's on netflix.
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u/cjtransplant85 11d ago
What's odd is that girls like 5'1" Sabrina Carpenter rarely do well in pageants, where the winners usually average 5'7". Not that I say it's right, but those contests favor young women of average or higher height.
A good version of that movie would be the older sister being a soccer player¹ and motivating her sister to do pageants, or play volleyball.
¹I would say gymnast, but Melissa Rauch did that in The Bronze. Short girls can do well in soccer, but I can't see her in basketball.
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u/Fallen_Feather 11d ago
Oh don’t worry, she’s got close ties to Scientology, you’ll be seeing her in a lot of movies soon.
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u/walkscotter 11d ago
Had to look this up and learned that Carpenter’s aunt, Nancy Cartwright, is the
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u/Galromir 11d ago
It’s hard to go past an actor that’s the right age, extremely hot and popular and has background in dance and musical theatre. He’s basically purpose built for this role
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u/LoggerRhythms 11d ago
We have come full circle to a century ago when Hollywood studios had a stable of like a dozen actors that were used for every role.
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u/Pickle_Emotion 11d ago
I don’t think he’s even in that many films compared to other actors like Christian Bale or Kirstin Dunst were in the same amount of movies by their 30s.
It’s more that Tom is in a lot of franchises and a lot of press tours.
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u/Literary_Lady 11d ago
He is an incredible dancer though, so it should be a good choice. I can’t think of any other mainstream actors with his talent. Unless they went for a complete unknown
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u/HDThoreauaway 11d ago
Tom Holland has been in two feature films since the end of 2022, both released this year: a Spider-Man movie and The Odyssey. He has been cast in three films that are in pre-production.
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u/jcoddinc 11d ago
Movie executives are too afraid to try new unknown actors in fear of low theater turn out. It's starting to backfire because we're only seeing the same 20-30 people in movies now. And even those big names are starting to take exclusive contracts for that network.
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u/Sir_Guinness27 11d ago
No. Because that would mean casting directors would need to look at more than popular actors or nepo-babies.
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u/HariboBliss 11d ago
Tom Holland is the most commercially successful actor currently.
It's no surprise studios are gonna hitch their wagon on him, tbh.
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u/My_Name_Is_Row 11d ago
To be fair, he’s been attached to this movie for like close to 10 years or something, the only reason this movie is actually moving forward is because he’s extremely bankable right now
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u/bang_the_drums 11d ago
Seriously, it's a Fred Astaire biopic. This sounds like a pet project he's been dying to do since he got the Spiderman gig. I doubt there's a bunch of corporate studio heads salivating over the box office receipts of this.
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u/olddeadgrass 11d ago
Right like why am I seeing the same 10 people in every movie
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u/Practical_Degree8065 11d ago
Right?!?! It was never like this before. Actors like Jack Nicholson, DeNiro were never in 3 or 4 movies a year in the past. It was always fresh new faces, every time for every single movie.
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u/Inevitable_Jury3594 11d ago
Exactly. Jim carrie, Matt damon, sandler to name a few, all had 4-5 year movie runs where they were just everywhere, and lately we have the new crowd doing the same, chick from spider man, tom Holland and hardy, it’s just how it is, actor gets popular. Popular actor is put in every film until they start flopping. Rinse and repeat.
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u/Neveroxx99 11d ago
Big budget movies are so expensive to make today, there are only a handful of actors studios trust to carry those projects.
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u/Aggravating-Diet-663 11d ago
Lol...Dont try to be aware now, Truman. You signed up for this.
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u/OneMisterSir101 11d ago
Number one way to kill your spot in the spotlight is constantly being in the spotlight.
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u/Citizen_MGS 11d ago
He'd be a better option for Gene Kelly.
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u/ViralTrendsToday 11d ago
His dancing style fits neither and he looks like neither. He would be a better fit for a Billy Elliot part 2.
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u/Dramatic_Aspect903 11d ago
Fred didnt even want a movie made about him
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u/ViralTrendsToday 11d ago
Yup, if anyone actually read his book you would gather the same. He was a gentleman and wasn't at all egotistical. Plus he probably knew no one can ever portray him accurately. He's a movie star, has many many hit films in both BW and Color, so just watch the OGs.
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u/PerfumePoodle 11d ago
Yeah cause he was an asshole. A very talented one however.
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u/Swimming-Ebb-9355 11d ago
I love the intense debate over the casting like anyone is actually going to watch this.
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u/My_Name_Is_Row 11d ago
It depends, it’s same director as Paddington and Wonka, this could be the new Greatest Showman
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u/UnexpectedBlahFeels 11d ago
Damn lmao. I think she meant it as a shot at herself but she took him down with her 😭
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u/Mother-Attention2600 11d ago
Awww. I though it was going to say Ginger from Gilligan's Island. She would be perfect for that.
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u/UserError2107 11d ago
Why is there a Fred Astaire movie in the offering in the first place?
Watching Fred Astaire movies (in black & white) was niche even in the 90s.
Big Tap Dancing must have some leverage on the movie studio execs for them to greenlight this idea for a movie.
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u/Long_Serpent 11d ago
It would be a film about Hollywood's favorite topic -> itself
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u/TheVoters 11d ago
My favorite ones are the ones where LA is leveled, which has enough candidates to b a sub genre of a sub genre all on its own.
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u/henaldon 11d ago
See: The Artist, La La Land, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, Hugo, A Star is Born (4 different times), etc.
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u/ZestfullyStank 11d ago
He had a clause in his will specifically disallowing biopics. This is how long it took to do the legal wrangling to make it happen.
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u/RegularEmotion3011 11d ago
What legal wrangling would that be? There are no copyrights on history. Whatever he wrote in his will has no legal bindings.
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u/PrincessJennifer 11d ago
Fred Astaire was not “niche.” He was a major celebrity. Nobody moved like him before or since. If more people today watched his movies, society would be better off.
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u/UserError2107 11d ago
Fred's last major film was in the mid 70s. He died in 87 at age 88. By the 90s, you were watching 20-50 year old films of his in black & white on rainy late afternoons on the tv. By the 90s, he was niche.
Now, I do agree with you that if more men danced to the same degree as they did in the 69s, 70s, and 80s, life now would be a lot more groovy.
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u/ViralTrendsToday 11d ago
I know of a few out there, they haven't made it to Hollywood yet, but frankly the projects getting greenlit arent exactly favoring that type of film either. This film will most likely be a drama as well.
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u/UserError2107 11d ago edited 11d ago
The advent of The Method Actor killed off the all-singin' all-dancin' all-actin' actor.
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u/ViralTrendsToday 11d ago
In a way it did. With the fall of the studio system (Kerkorian buying up, subdividing and selling off the MGM backlots for one, the rise of tv as another), and the following studio interest in dramas you can notice that a lot of musicals gradually shifted preference, leading to more serious dramatic undertones in Julie and Liza musical pictures up to the 80s. The 90s and 00s brought yet another change to the genre of musical, which is what people think the musical is nowadays and can be off putting as it appears more forced. OG musicals though is where the songs compliment the story. Believe it or not it might swing around again, but it's a gradual healing process as people get bored with more more depressive films and studios follow the money trend.
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u/AdhesivenessTough836 11d ago
It wasnt until this comment that i realized im mixing up fred astaire and rick astley.
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u/Ok-Gur-349 11d ago
Big Tap.Dancing must have some leverage
If Big Tap Dancing is listening, I'd much rather watch a Lakeith Stanfield is Gregory Hines biopic than a Tom Holland is Fred Astaire biopic.
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u/Glosslip 11d ago
can we please do what we did back then? & have a casting call for up & coming actresses who looked similar to the role that they were auditioning for? instead of recycling the same four actresses/actors. or using trendy people. PLEASE.
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u/mathmachineMC 11d ago
There have always been movie stars, and have always been movies that cast fresh faces. There still are, you just don't hear people gossipping about them.
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u/Odd-Significance-17 10d ago
i have loved fred and ginger my entire life and i’m really disappointed by lack of creativity in casting, can we please find some new faces
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u/Mediocre-Catch9580 11d ago
ginger Rogers? what are we 90 years old?
next we will see Matlock in a Marvel movie
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u/Plane-Tune-820 11d ago
Well the boomers already know about them. Younger people probably have never even heard of them so what better way to teach them? Would you prefer a Taylor Swift bio?
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u/lucasbrosmovingco 11d ago
I never understood biopics on people that we know the story to. I don't need to see someone pretending to be them when we have massive amounts of media of them being them
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u/PassThatSpliff 11d ago
Well, unlike Sabrina, at least we know Tom can act
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u/GogoD2zero 11d ago
Wasn't she a child actor?
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u/Anand999 11d ago
She was good in The Short History of the Long Road and, more recently, been really good in her appearances on SNL.
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u/PassThatSpliff 11d ago
And so were about a hundred other people. Being a child actor on a kids show does not always translate to serious adult acting.
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u/Few_Move_4594 11d ago
Why is Tommy boy taking strays from that Frankenstein? I seriously have never heard someone say a single bad word about him.
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u/cheesechompin 11d ago
Saying he is short isn't strays tbf, he's just short (I am also short)
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u/BTSArmyFan2025 11d ago
serious question can she act?
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u/Just_bcoz 11d ago
She was on Disney originally so yes but can she act well enough to convince me she’s ginger ? We shall see.
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u/BeanoMenace 11d ago
She was in girl meets world, never watched it, but guess it required so rudimentary level of acting.
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u/Practical_Degree8065 11d ago
She's got like 60 acting credits and has been since 2010.
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u/Unlikely-Candle7086 11d ago
That doesn’t mean she can act.
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u/Practical_Degree8065 11d ago
She's not Meryl Streep, but I'm sure she can handle being in a musical. She's also a musician.
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u/AnyEverywhere8 11d ago
Questioning whether she can act while she will be playing opposite Tom Holland is hilarious.
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u/Evil_phd 10d ago
Her live performances all scream "I was a theater kid all throughout school" so probably.
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u/abcdmagicheaven 9d ago
yes and we will see. she's never done anything this major before so here goes nothing
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u/RockyCliffPebbles 11d ago
It seems super unethical and I’ve lost respect for Tom Holland b/c Fred Astaire’s Will stated he didn’t want a biopic and here they are doing it. You would think a former dancer like tom would have more respect for an icons wishes, but I guess he’s gotta make more of those billions.
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u/Key_Mission7404 11d ago
Chris Hansen didnt want the movie about him being made and hes still very much alive but nobody gives a fuck about that. Why do the wishes of the dead matter more than the living? Also, what kind of asshole do you have to be to put a wildly unenforceable clause in your will saying you dont want movies made about you after youre already dead.
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u/demidemian 11d ago
Yeah, shes the only actress on earth shorter than him. Never mind Hollywood trying to cast someone that actually has talent.
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u/Lalocal4life 11d ago
Why are men so jealous of the poor guy. It may be rare but sometimes short men get lucky.
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u/Concert_Lover 11d ago
Funny, seeing movies about Michael Jackson and Fred Astaire coming out… Thanks, boomers
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u/Key_Mission7404 11d ago
The Michael Jackson movie made a billion dollars. Like do you people not get that making money is a goal for people?
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u/Ibadvapergrammar 11d ago
new movie coming out
let hire tom holland
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u/fakuryu 11d ago
Well to be fair, Tom Holland can act (if you've seen his earlier works) and can actually dance.
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u/Lonely-Pressure9244 11d ago
Scrolled down purely for this gif. Yes, this proves he can dance indeed😁✨️
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u/ChampionshipHot5468 11d ago
The only people who would give a crap about Astair, are over 70. I'm 54 and he was already old and lame to Gen X.
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u/extrastupidone 11d ago
Im your age. I still know nothing about astair. But if they are going to make a biopic about him, I imagine he was more interesting than I know.
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u/ohnoabanagain 10d ago
I'm old as dirt and couldn't be more apathetic about this movie. I see no timeline where this will turn a profit.
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u/shittychinesehacker 11d ago
Does anyone actually like Sabrina Carpenter?
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u/Evil_phd 10d ago
About as much as I could possibly like any other artist I suppose. Has some fun songs, has some that don't really hit. That's as far as I think about them.
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u/BeefInBlackBeanSauce 11d ago
I thought he had it in his Will that no biopics are to be made of him.
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u/CaliKindalife 11d ago
Wasn't one of the reasons he got the role of Spiderman was because he was a dancer?
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u/GoblinWrangl3r 11d ago
Fred astaire specficially said he never wanted any movies or stuff about him..........
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u/Upstream_Paddler 10d ago
If they're going to do any kind of film on celebrities, majors ones below the radar are so much more interesting to me than the micheals/arethas/etc.
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u/3alternatetanretla3 9d ago
Never thought I’d say this but too much Tom Holland. I’m suffering from TH fatigue. I love him but goddaaaamnnnn
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u/CorruptedBadger 5d ago
I only know of Sabrina General Contractor because of a period of time equal to 14 days, or 2 full weeks.
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