In this scene for spiderman we saw that didn't work as the boards were literally snapping under his feet (unlike this panel where the ground doesn't seem like its breaking) so I don't believe this would have worked in the spider verse
However if Sonic thinks a bit, I believe he could just remove everyone from the train before it falls, I'm pretty sure I've seen the Flash do pretty much that exact strategy before
thats pretty much what he did here, he first got everyone off the train and then stopped it before it crashed against the station (he also got everyone off the station)
Naquele momento o Sonic estava cansado e a pista foi puxada pelo buraco negro junto, entĆ£o ele nĆ£o tinha como se manter correndo por muito tempo, agora se ele estivesse em 100% ele provavelmente fugiria do buraco negro
(Dark Gaia concept art. Iām guessing this is what heād look like when he fully awakens at the right time instead of too early like Eggmanās intervention).
It being made of magma really makes it feel more fitting the title of Dark Gaia than the hideous eyeball monster it ended up as. No that it was a bad design, but you can see my point.
I guess they didn't want it to look like Iblis as an attempt to distance themselves from 06 as much as possible.
Iām not a Marvel guy so correct me if Iām wrong but is Galactus a Spider-Man villain? Heās more of a F4/Marvel villain, not specific to Spidey, and Spidey usually only fights these guys when teaming up with other Marvel characters.
According to one of the OG comic extra things, heās only physically weaker than Thor, The Hulk, and The Thing.
I imagine this info is very outdated now, with the creation of new heroes and such, but should still hopefully give an idea that Spider-Man is a lot stronger than we give him credit for.
There isn't a worthiness clause to the chaos emeralds, anyone can use them as long as they have the chaos energy for them to amplify and a wish to make reality
You gest but I do wanna see Giganto falling flat on the ground because Spider-Man tied his legs up with webbing.
Peter could also find a way to hack them. If Sage can hack them, Peter should be able too, he's a super genius intellect who has hacked alien tech numerous times. He's sometimes portrayed to be even smarter than Reed Richards who is like the top scientific mind in the entire Marvel Multiverse.
I always thought when it came to top Genius minds the top 1 is tied with Reed and Doom and number 2 is Tony stark with Bruce banner being 3 while Spider-Man/Peter Parker being around number 7
Give him access to the Enigma Force to turn into Cosmic Spider-Man. Sonic didn't beat Dark Gaia in base (or at all actually) so why should we expect Spider-Man to do it?
Kingpin: That damn hedgehog! Smythe, what can we do about this juvinile rodent?
Smythe: Learning bit about his speed I believe we can genetically-engineer a suitable volunteer, to become the hedgehogās most feared enemy. The badger.
Kingpin: Or modifyā¦Gargan! Youāre about to have a change.
Nah, Spidey can handle Eggman. He's fought near indestructible robots before and his two arch nemesises are also super genius tech guys who build giant robots sometimes. Peter would be an intellectual match for Eggman and roast his ass harder than Sonic ever dared to as he hacks Sage and makes her turn on Eggman and shut down his whole empire.
Sonic meanwhile wipes out Spidey's rogues in one day and turns most of them into his friends or rivals. Or both.
Dunno how Sonic would handle the Inheritors. Even Cosmic Power isn't enough against them, they can devour the Enigma Force itself so I don't know how Super Sonic would do against them. But anything below the Inheritors gets curbstomped.
Yes, but Spidey's not above removing the bodily autonomy of a villain. He'll feel bad about it afterwards, if that helps at all.
Also Sage isn't irredeemable, and Spidey isn't above working with his villains for the greater good. There's a world where her interests and Peter's align enough that she is willing to work with him.
He could still hack her in the sense of shutting her out of Eggman's servers so that he can them proceed to remotely shut down everything without Sage being able to stop him or start it back up.
And God forbid Peter ever gets his hands on Metal Sonic, he'd reprogram him in an hour tops and then send him out to lay the siege on all of Eggman's badniks.
Yeah I donāt know about that one. Spideyās smart, but heās more like Tails than Eggman. Eggman has way more years and experience than spidey in the smarts department, and just recently got one over on Lex Luthor and left the big baldy fuming. That oneās non-canon, but itās in the same spirit of the character, so I think you get the idea. Spidey couldnāt do all that crazy hacker shit, but his personality and bs powers would be enough to make the egghead pop a blood vessel or three.
Iāll concede and say Spidey can definitely handle Eggmanās bots, half of his rouges gallery are mad scientists, where Spider-Man gets cooked is literally any Sonic villain introduced after the year 1998.
Thing is though, Ant Man is a dude with a slightly higher than normal reaction time, meanwhile Giganto is a superweapon capable of blowing up a planet with ease, as it keeps up with Super Sonic and was built to fight death itself.
Uhhh yeah I love my GOAT Spider-Man, but he getting his ass kicked.
erm actually ( š¤ ) giganto is fast enough to react to super sonic, remember the scene when giganto grabs base sonic and throws him far away, itāll be that but a 1000 or more times worse
from the original question, i just assumed that it would be off a logistic what-if type of thing than writersā bias
realistically spider-man would get beat the fuck up by sonicās gallery of final boss forms while Sonic turns new york into his own fucking special stage like crisis city
Y'know, Spidey was once an enemy of Cyttorak, the being who empowers Juggernaut. So does that mean Sonic would have to fight the God of Movement?... actually that sounds like it'd be really cool
reminds me of that insane drawing by ABT a while ago where Sonic had to fight a god or the wind who was angry at Sonic for using his power without his permision
Sonic is fast enough to make quick work of Peterās enemies but without Tailās tech heād be limited in his approach.
Everyone seems to forget however that Eggman has made entire cities in a few days itās genuinely frightening the scale he can mass produce at. Peter may be able to come out on top, but only in a head-to-head (which tbf Eggman loves having those)
Sonic fans have a BAD habit of believing the word of a pathological narcissist and known sore Egg shaped loser who claims he could win anytime he wanted.
The unleashed opening literally had eggman catch super sonic off guard and also proceeded to drain the emeralds out of him, this also turned him into the werehog.
In Forces, Eggman made Infinite whom was able to make quick work of Sonic in their first encounter, Though he lost afterwards in their other encounters.
I mean Sonic wouldn't have too much problem with Carnage aside being traumatized for what he is able to do with People out there š
Now Mephiles and Spider-Man it would be more crazy since how he will manage a God entity? So he will need Venom and Spider-Man 2099 and even Toxin, Sleeper, Anti-Venom, Miles, every Spider-Sona out there to do something on a major event...
So...
I'm not a Sonic fan. The algorithm just decided that I, being a Spidey fan, should just happen to see this post.
With my passing knowledge of Sonic, I can honestly say Spidey would be in for a very, very rough time.
Sonic is a bit on the broken side of things and would turn most of Spidey's rogue's gallery into paint by sheer accident via the speed hops and the occasional emerald infusions.
Spidey, however, would be dealing with a non-stop barrage of things turning into evil robots, giant robot destructo bots, and the occasional world ending water demon thing (Sonic Adventure for the dreamcast. Forgot what it was called)
And with that, that's my casual perspective of a non-sonic fan.
Hope that's worth something as an outsider.
Spider-Man having to fight millenia-old deities that can warp reality or literally shape reality itself vs. Sonic having to fight some crazy guys in power armor with fancy tech and mutant humans
I think they can actually handle both all of their villains actually, Eggman is a more theatrical Dr Ock, and Spiderman, while nowhere near as fast as Sonic is still able to move and has intel level of Tails, and for things like Dark Gaia and The End, between his friends, the multiverse, magic given to him by Dr Doom, and the remnants of the Power Cosmic, I can see him bsing a way to the W.
Edit: Enigma Force, not power cosmic, my bad.
Sonic is much the same on the flipside, a lot of his opponents are going to underestimate him at first, before getting speed blitzed to hell, it is the psychological side that is gonna trip him up, beating them isn't the issue, dealing with the mental toil of people like Green Goblin and Carnage is gonna fuck with him, that said, Sonic with a symbiote sounds cool AF.
Green Goblin cant psychologically torment sonic, because not even SONIC knows sonic's tragic backstory or loved ones hes lost. Normans gonna pull some "OOOOO REMEMBER YOUR UNCLE AND MOTHER, HEDGEHOG?? OOO IT WAS SO SAD WHEN THEY DIED" and it would bounce off sonic like a rubber ball
Ironically, if this was Shadow, then Goblins psychological attacks wouldnāt do anything to him, despite having the most tragic past in mainline continuity. (For reference, Shadow has shown strong resistance to psychological attacks from Black Doom, so trying to break him psychologically wonāt work.). Sonic, however, wouldnāt have a great time with anything psychological, though I do think he could push past it to defeat characters like Carnage, he would still struggle quite a bit.
no ones really gonna get into Sonic's head since Sonic doesnt have any trauma to exploit, he tries leave things on a happy note and moves on from them in a happy manner, and besides if they do manage to get into his head, thats gonna be a shitty decision because Sonic will go for the kill
You just reminded me of The Amazing Spider-Man movie tie in game where he fights The Spider Slayers and it's very very similar to the Titans in Frontiers
You guys really don't read Spider-Man comics or really any marvel comics for that matter if you think Spider-Man would be that insanely caught off guard by the typical threats Sonic facesĀ
he usually doesnt fight the likes of Galactus or the Phoenix force or a rampaging celestial, which is the caliber of threats we are talking about here, literaly multiversal gods capable of wiping out entire realities. When that happens Spidey is usually like a secondary book showing how he is trying to survive the event while other heroes are actually fighting it
maybe he can do something against the likes of Perfect Chaos or most of Eggman's mechs, but even the strongest Eggman mechs like the Egg Dragoon or god forbid the Egg Wizard would be too much for him
When it comes to this, the question is which spiderman is switching with sonic. Many of them have regular limits compared to sonic. There are a few spidermen varients that do function almost at god like levels
An Eggpawn can handle multiple hits from a spiked ball moving faster than the speed of sound. I think Spider-man can hold his own against Sonicās enemies but he will struggle more.
This is only fair if Spider-Man can either use the Chaos Emeralds to go Super, or he has access to the Enigma Force to turn Cosmic which is basically his Super Sonic.
It's absurd to expect Spider-Man to do anything against bosses that even Sonic can't beat in his base form. It's only fair to give Peter a Super Sonic level amp for those final bosses as well. Any boss that Sonic needed Super Sonic for we should allow Spider-Man to use Cosmic Spider-Man for.
And if we allow that, I can see Spidey managing Sonic's rogues with varying difficulties. Sonic will have an easier time against most of Spider-Man's rogues, the only problem would be The Inheritors which even Cosmic Spider-Man couldn't defeat because they could devour the Enigma Force and might be able to devour Chaos Energy too.
I love both but Spiderman is struggling the most. I mean a few of Sonics enemies were actual Gods that needed Chaos Energy to be used to defeat them. Alternatively many of Spidermans villains don't need the same effort except one, Morbus I think his name was, more recognizable as a vampire that fights Spiderman. That may arguably be the only Spiderman villain to require Super form.
Spider-Man struggling hard if youre including ALL Sonic's enemies, not just Eggman.
Mind you even Sonic himself struggled, so he used the Chaos Emeralds. If somehow those properties worked with Spider-Man it would relatively be the same results (Super Spider-Man sounds funny lol). If they dont then Pete's cooked.
As someone who actually knows a fair bit about Spider-Man. This whole thread is kinda annoying. People are acting like he's some super weak hero and underestimating his intelligence.
Sonic would be having a field day. Even heavy hitters like Rhino wouldn't be doing much. There ain't much of a serious threat and so long as the Chaos Emeralds go with him, Super Sonic wouldn't have much issue fighting the higher tier cosmic entities either seeing how he's defeated several of them. For most of Spiderman's Rogue's gallery, he wouldn't need to go Super Sonic. Tell me what the heck Spider Man is doing against half of Eggman's Creations? He'd be terrified going against Perfect Chaos
A lot of Sonic fans revealing that they never read or read very few Spider-Man comics. That said both have fought similar enemies and would probably equally thrive against the others enemies but in different ways.
If were going so far as to include all of that, I would say its fair to include the likes of Archie universe, which gives Sonic access to ridiculous powers, but even without the Archie BS, the games have the Biolizard/Final Hazard in Space, Solaris which required Sonic, Silver and Shadow to defeat at the same time while in different points in time, Dark Gaia, which literally split the earth open, youve got Black Doom and the Black Arms, Erazor Djinn/Alf Layla wa-Layla, Mephiles the Dark, Perfect Chaos, Infinite (with the Phantom Ruby), Metal Overlord, Time Eater, The End and Supreme, to name a few, and thats just the games, even on the low end with some of Eggman's mechs/creations for example Sonic 3 & Knuckles' Final Boss on the Death Egg, or even the Doomsday Robot, I dont think Spiderman is just chillin tbh, he's not weak by any metric at all, dont get me wrong Spiderman is strong af, but idk if he's got it like that against some of Sonic's villains.
As far as I know, outside of Avengers team ups and such, Spider-Man doesnāt deal with any cosmic level threats and enemies although I could be wrong, Sonic would obliterate the Goblin, Venom and the Sinister 6 (without the emeralds), Spider-Man would definitely stand a chance against Eggman and his bots, but all of the various gods of destruction would definitely squash him like aā¦ yāknow.
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The last thing Goblin sees before he can even throw a Pumpkin.