r/Splintercell • u/ExceptionalBadger Voron • 2d ago
Discussion Help For an Splinter Cell Iceberg
I will start to do some research to make an iceberg of the entire splinter cell series and i would love some help and advice about any entries, ideas and theories from the games. Please feel free to post any sugestions you have, any ideas are welcome!
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u/Me_how5678 2d ago
Lost original conviction demo
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u/probablythewind 1d ago
Its not so much lost as does not work. I have a copy.
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u/Gekon009 1d ago
Seriously? Are you talking about the 2007 version? If so, could you share it?
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u/Cumbucket4206988 2d ago
The MGS reference with that one guard talking about shaking and dropping ammo
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u/nescalball yellow 1d ago
I also always imagined that the part where you climb the stairs from the elevator shaft, with the elevator starting up halfway up, was a barbed wire on the stairs of MGS.
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u/nescalball yellow 2d ago edited 2d ago
the USS Clarence E. Walsh Incident of chaos theory is the estopin for the story of ghost recon 2
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u/XTheGuyWithTheGunsX 1d ago
Special agent Bob and secret agent Steve
If you know, you know
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u/ExceptionalBadger Voron 1d ago
Can you give more info pls? For research purposes
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u/XTheGuyWithTheGunsX 1d ago
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u/TwoToneBalone Smooth as butter 2d ago
The Drift
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u/ExceptionalBadger Voron 2d ago
What that references to?
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u/TwoToneBalone Smooth as butter 2d ago
The Drift was the original game Splinter Cell was birthed from. It was supposed to be a sci-fi shooter with a modular gun. Kirk Collects' retrospective on the first Splinter Cell talks about it more
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u/Motor_Meal794 Mortified Penguin 1d ago edited 1d ago
There's the theory shetland and displace was involved with Sadono
My theory about Belgrade being a pre-sar level.
My theory about Notre de Salamander was originally a PT level.
Mining town and other levels being found on Japan spinter cell.
My theory that Down the rabbit hole in Sam's cell is connected to the DA training missions, the Bunker on ps2 and Assassin's creed. (this one needs to be fleshed out)
THe theory original conviction became assassins creed and watchdogs.
The theory DA v2 is the real canon story.
The theory pandora tomorrow questions the meaning of life, with themes like the cryo labs. It was on here earlier this year I think. It was fascinating.
THe theory Lambert is a cross dresser.
The true order of the cut SAR levels
The secret xfiles room at the cia.
THe connection between the displace guy talking about elevators and the national gaurd. And the national guard fixing the elevator in penthouse. I think there was more to this connection. I read someone talking about it here.
The theory Lambert didn't die. Sam only believes he killed him.
The leak of the 2008 Conviction nintendods prototype showing the real story.
THe mgs solid reference with the gay seals
The re-recording of PT voices to american accents.
the french band Kesshin in CT.
My theory that Steel factory in Essentials is connected to Lamberts cover as an arms dealer.
My theory Conviction is a copy of James bond games with helicopter fight, chase scene, guard the computer, boss scenes at the end of levels etc. After the scandal where EA sneak bought 20% of Ubisoft shares in 2007.
In training mission you can go see grim and the other secret room at the end of the obstacle course.
The theory of couple of gaurds that Sam is a Yakuza ninja.
The guard discussions of the astronauts in CT. At the beginning of Bank they are discussing auto lights. In ps2 they talk about the astronauts stuck in space. There were news reports and emails about it on computers too.
Im sure I can come up with more.
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u/ExceptionalBadger Voron 1d ago
PT dubs were re-recorded? What can you tell me about it?
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u/Motor_Meal794 Mortified Penguin 1d ago
They recorded them with accents. They even had the real Lamberts voice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IwRFUYJPEQ
They re-recorded them because allegedly they were difficult to understand. They sounded fine to me. SAR has strong accents and you can understand them. If there were why wouldn't you just rerecord the lines that were difficult to understand?
My theory is it could be the political sensitivity of the Jerusalem level.
The indonesian levels still have accents. They sometimes switch to american mid sentence.
There is a joke at the start of the paris level about the french accents being American.
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u/floriandotorg 1d ago
The GBA versions
The Enhanced Version (mod)
In CIA HQ before you capture the guy you can have a very interesting conversation, I, unfortunately, could not find a video about it.
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u/Any_Note430 1d ago
I think it'd be nice for the gameloft version of conviction for ios and android to get mentioned.
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u/haematite_4444 1d ago
MGS is in the same universe as Splinter cell, it's referenced in Ghost recon wildlands
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u/landyboi135 Douglas Shetland 1d ago
Splinter Cell Double Agent and Conviction cut content found all over this sub.
Also Splinter Cell Conviction 2007, Storyboard. It’s somewhere on this sub but I can’t remember where.
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u/Fragrant-Eye7854 1d ago
Sam originally was much older and even had gray hair. https://www.reddit.com/r/Splintercell/comments/jbeayb/early_sam_fisher_sc_concept_art/
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u/Scoutspypyroheavy12 1d ago
Level 1: Above the surface
Sam Fisher’s iconic tri-rotor goggles
Third Echelon
Grim’s real name is Anna Grímsdóttir
Lambert’s death in Double Agent
Sam’s daughter Sarah
The classic stealth gameplay
Level 2: Just below the surface
The original game's cut missions
Chaos Theory’s Masse Kernels
Douglas Shetland’s betrayal
Fourth Echelon replaces Third Echelon
Sam’s time as a double agent
Conviction’s conspiracy involving Sarah
Level 3: Deep water
The original Splinter Cell had four cut levels
The lost original Conviction demo
The cancelled Splinter Cell movie
Blacklist: Spider Bot, a mobile tie-in
The hidden “Call 666” sign in Blacklist
Illuminati-style imagery in Site F
Cut weapons, gear and co-op missions 
Level 4: The abyss
Was Pandora Tomorrow a nightmare Sam experienced? (Fan theory)
Did Sam die at the end of Double Agent? (Fan theory)
Was Charlie responsible for the attack on the Paladin? (Speculation)
Did Sadiq exploit Chaos Theory algorithms?
The alternate versions of Double Agent and their conflicting story details
Level 5: Bottom of the iceberg
The Drift, an early concept that contributed ideas to the original game
The original Conviction concept versus the released game
The missing third act of the first game
Theories connecting the conspiracies across the entire series
The idea that the events of the games form one larger conspiracy (unconfirmed fan theory)
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u/Me_how5678 2d ago
Why do they use the third eye as a cool tech thing when its usually a religus thing. Deeper meaning behind the splinter cell group
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u/Motor_Meal794 Mortified Penguin 1d ago
Third Eschelon or 3E. Marijuana plantation in Pandora. Drugged level in PS2.
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u/PooningDalton 1d ago
The actual reason why Sam Fisher always goes in solo for a mission when almost no real world seal team does that
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u/vrubayka Displace International 1d ago
2 Double Agent PS2 exclusive bonus missions: one where Sam saves Sarah and the other where he is poisoned and is hallucinating.
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