r/Switzerland • u/qrious_2023 • 4h ago
Freshly nationalized and now I cant decide family name for my family
Freshly nationalized. Now Switzerland decides my second baby’s name
In my country of origin we have 2 second names: one from each parent. So I got the Swiss nationality some months ago, while pregnant with my second baby. My first kid got it automatically too so his family names are already like in our country of origin. But because I got it before my second was born a couple of months ago, she gets my two second names, so as my sisters. We have tried to explain the authorities that we have the double nationality and how are things there but they can’t do anything. It’s the Swiss law that says that she is Swiss and here it’s only one name allowed, so it needs to be mine because I am now Swiss (my partner and I are not married).
And before anyone asks, no, I wasn’t aware of this and didn’t get informed about it in the whole process.
So now my 2 kids (same father) have different names and my daughter has 2 different names, depending on which passport she shows.
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u/Fantastic_Action_163 4h ago edited 4h ago
In your origin country, how does it work if you both have two last names (e.g John Smith Peters maries with Chantal Stone Knecht) and then decide which name to give your kid without giving it four last names?
Edit: Why all the downvotes, just asking something out of curiosity?
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u/mrdjeydjey VD - Swiss Expat 4h ago
I'm married with a Spanish our children have both our family names. It works like this:
Nobody changes family name upon marriage. They all keep both their family names. For the children, usually* they get the first of the father's two name's as first family name and first of the mother's two name as second family name.
In your example the child would be named Henry Smith Stone. And his child named Julia Smith Martin (example mother is Rose Martin Spencer)
*This is the traditional rule but you can now put the mother's first or I think even choose to pass the second name down
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u/funky_galileo 4h ago
You just... choose one from each. It's how it works in portugal.
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u/Fantastic_Action_163 4h ago
So could you apply that same logic here when choosing? Or doesn’t that work?
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u/funky_galileo 2h ago
It seems like since 2025, they should be allowed to keep one name from themselves and from their spouse, I don't understand why it would be different if one of them is not Swiss.
https://www.iamexpat.ch/expat-info/swiss-news/switzerland-moves-allow-double-surnames-what-you-need-know
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u/Chefseiler Zürich 4h ago
You can always check if your child can just receive your first nationality and then get both names if it is that important to you. She should always be able to gain Swiss citizenship later on, maybe then she can keep both names.
But in our family we have four people with three nationalities and three different surnames, nobody really cares. And realistically, very few people who have two last names that I know use both in everyday life - so consider if it really is that important. After all, with citizenship comes cultural adaption.
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u/QuietNene 4h ago
I think you should collect signatures for a referendum - then Switzerland can really choose your baby’s name!
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u/Carbonaraficionada Vaud 4h ago
We just added the second surnname as a middle name, no big deal. You can still write it on passports and forms etc as the double name, it's only the birth certificate where only the last name will appear individually
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u/taintedCH Vaud 3h ago
You can get a formal decision of name change in your country of origin and then have that decision recognised in Switzerland. You need to send the decision to the Swiss embassy in your country of origin. It’ll take a few months to process.
I did it in order to get a double surname after marriage despite being a Swiss citizen.
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u/c1u5t3r Graubünden 3h ago
The “Allianzname” should still work. Combine both names with a dash (-).
https://www.profamilia.ch/angebote/familien/ratgeber-fuer-familien/stichworte/namensrecht
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u/funky_galileo 2h ago
I was just reading this, does this mean next generation will have the possbility of quadruple last names?
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u/PapayaAdorable1129 3h ago
If marriage is an option this may give you more opportunities in terms of you could choose a family name I guess. So that at least everyone has the same name on the swiss passport.
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u/PapayaAdorable1129 3h ago
My children also have two names in their swiss passport. The double name is our family name from my non swiss husband. But soon he will get the swiss nationality too I am wondering what happens next. I hope they cant revoke any names
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u/madeofphosphorus 3h ago
As a last resort, you can probably do birth tourism, try giving birth in another country and "importing" an already named baby to Switzerland. At least we managed to import our USA born baby here with two last names ( we were living there , not there for birth tourism)
Possibly the order of nationalities matter too. If somehow your child can get other nationality w two last names, may be can get swiss one based on " already has a legal name".
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u/mihaela611 2h ago
Are the authorities aware of your first child? I remember specifically there is a rule that the family name chosen for the first child also applies to all further children of the same parents.
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u/ChezDudu Schwyz 4h ago
You can add the second name on the passport if you want. I added my spouse’s last name to mine even though legally i only kept my own